So Cal Gas Bill Increase?

I meant no one here on EdHat,but you knew that…. I’ll try to read the links you provided when I have time and point out how something like requiring a permit doesn’t equal pushing back on renewable energy.

"Sac, no one is pushing back on expanding renewable energy" - Nah, there's no pushback or opposition at all........ smh

"Using multi-level qualitative analysis, we have identified seven key sources of opposition. Of the projects we studied, 34% faced significant delays and difficulties securing permits, 49% were cancelled permanently, and 26% resumed after being stopped for several months or years. Project delays and cancellations account for potential lost generating capacity of almost 4600 MW. " ---https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421522001471

"As renewable energy production has surged in recent years, opponents of government policies that have helped spur its growth have pushed to roll back those incentives and mandates in state after state." --- https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/business/energy-environment/a-pushback-on-green-power.html

" During his conversation with the Huffington Post, Rabe says that he sees “a nationwide trend of legal challenges, rather than deeper commitments, to measures that increase renewable energy use.” Rabe also asserts that “nationwide Republican gains in state legislatures could stop or roll back states’ progress on renewable energy.” --- https://fordschool.umich.edu/news/2014/rabe-discusses-national-pushback-renewable-energy-laws-huffpo

"More than 100 ordinances have been adopted in 31 states blocking or restricting new wind, solar, and other renewable energy facilities" --- https://climate.law.columbia.edu/content/opposition-renewable-energy-facilities-united-states

"Researchers say that in many groups, misinformation is raising doubts about renewable energy and slowing or derailing projects." --- https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1086790531/renewable-energy-projects-wind-energy-solar-energy-climate-change-misinformation

I could go on, but yeah, you're not lying at all, right? There's absolutely *no* pushback to renewable energy projects. Seriously dude.......

Shasta, large scale green energy requires nuclear for the foreseeable future. Sac, no one is pushing back on expanding renewable energy, the push back is on limiting fossil fuels prematurely. Natural gas is one of the cleanest fossil fuels, it’s cheap, and the US has a ton of it, it should be expanded while dirtier forms like coal are eliminated.

At present, yes, but that's why we need to keep pushing. We can't get there overnight. Mass viability is in the works. In the meantime, we should be using it as much as possible, not constantly pushing back on it because it's not perfect yet.

Large scale renewable energy is a fantasy. Look at Germany, they are having to fire up as many coal plants as possible this winter because solar and wind is inadequate.

SHASTA - all the more reason to stop pushing back against large scale renewable energy production. We can't just keep using coal and oil because it's cheaper.

Hey COAST - grow up. Also, that doesn't make any sense. Why would I stop posting comments if I was heating with charcoal or wood? Do you think the internet runs on gas? Maybe invest in a book on how to be funny? Hint - if you have to explain your "joke" or whatever that was, then it wasn't very good.

So he's just like like every other high level politician then? But thank you for providing an example to my 12:30 comment.

He was and is a complete moron interested only in his own ego, and whoever he thinks can enrich him. The average American is not anything he cares about.

Many couldn’t get past him being an a-hole to see many of things he was pushing for were good for the average American families.

5:06, you are soooo right about the effects of an extra $100 a month on some families.

Ironic that with all the rancor over our cures and former President and their respective scandals it could well be energy prices that decide the next election. Much as I hated Trump, in many ways I miss him.

4:54, a $50-100 increase in a bill can wreak havoc on a family living paycheck to paycheck! Of which there are plenty in SB. Communify makes grants, I think, and weatherizes; I believe Unity Shoppe and Catholic Charities have funds to get people through months and prevent them losing utilities.
Donating to the Food Bank allows more money of those in need to go toward utilities.
https://foodbanksbc.org/

https://www.communifysb.org/ (Was "Community Action Commission")

http://www.catholiccharities-sbc.org/
• In partnership with the Santa Barbara County Foodbank, we distribute over 2.1 million pounds annually of supplemental and nutritious food to our clients.
• CCSB is the only organization operating countywide offering financial rental and utility assistance through federal Emergency Food & Shelter Program (EFSP) and Homeless Prevention Rapid Re-Housing (HPRP) grants.

https://unityshoppe.org/programs-and-services/

Everybody knows that the president has a switchboard under the Resolute desk to control the gas pipelines and space lasers. It's all detailed in the documents from Hunter biden's laptop, if you wear tinfoil hats the government can't keep you from the truth. Wake up sheeple!1!

No one is going bankrupt because of their gas bill, relax. Besides, if you really cared, you'd be OK with the government subsidizing renewable energy production to lower consumer costs.

Your privilege is showing, many aren't so fortunate.

If the higher prices are a result of a decrease in fossil fuel production and dependence, I'm happy to pay a little extra each month. It always costs something when you have to clean up a mess.

Chip and Buford, just stop with the lies and misinformation. Enough already! It's clearly the Republicans fault, they fight tooth and nail to prevent any additional fossil fuel extraction and hold up the development of any new processing / refinancing / liquification facilities with endless red tape. If only Democrats were in charge of this state and country we wouldn't have any of these insane price spikes and the cost of nat gas and gasoline would be much more affordable.

I certainly appreciate the research you have shared. I will say that I am very skeptical of one paragraph, though. The part about California being at the end of the pipeline just doesn’t ring true. Gas prices have shot up from Seattle to Sarasota and from Bangor to San buena Ventura. The prices have shot up in Texas which is supposedly at the beginning of the pipeline. California is also a gas producer by the way.

We are now living half way across the country from Santa Barbara and in our rural area propane works much better than natural gas. In the past year and a half we have watched liquid propane go from $1.27 per gallon to almost $3.50 though is is back below three bucks last I checked. I was smart/lucky enough to buy a couple thousand gallons for future delivery in summer of 2020 before the election but this winter is going to cost us more to be sure. Wish I had done the same with gasoline which went from $1.36 (remote area so always 10% higher) to $3.72 since 2020. It was down to $2.50 for a while but it’s now back over $3.00.

I feel for our friends in the frozen north who literally can’t survive the sub zero winter without their heat and for most, solar and heat pumps aren’t a viable option and if it were, spending a hundred grand on a system to heat a farmhouse and a small barn is out of the question.