Why Aren’t Schools Reopening?

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Why aren’t all schools moving forward with a waiver to reopen? The United Boys and Girls Club of Santa Barbara County is opening up to offer “a safe, sanitized and fully connected location with adult supervision.” If they are open, and camps are open, why can’t schools? 

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  1. Very true! Private school is a choice. It’s about priorities – in fact the school we attend, most students receive scholarshipS. They are not rich. Others have foregone home ownership or other things to put their kids where they feel is best. It’s a conscience sacrifice. Private school is definitely not always a sign of wealth – it represents beliefs and values, standards of education .

  2. So weird to read the anti-union anti-teach comments on this topic. So unrepresentative of Santa Barbara voting, too. If I was a teacher in a high risk group, I wouldn’t want to go back into a class room with a bunch of kids who may be asymptomatic. If you can’t understand that fear, and have a solution for it, then there is nothing to discuss.

  3. A district wide survey was sent out and approximately 75% of GUSD (90% at Montecito Union, not sure about SBUSD) parents wanted their kids back in classrooms, not hybrid, not online only. Obviously the 6 number represents a biased subsample who could and chose to make it to the meeting to speak.
    The majority of parents locally want their kids back in school.

  4. And teachers in high risk groups absolutely should have the option to not go back. They can zoom teach the whole year to the kids who have chosen that path. But Goleta hires 21 new teachers… and they have the green light from the state to start… wait for it… TEACH!!!! So yes, there is your solution…do your job school district and open up. It may look old my different and be less hours and days, and maybe even entail a fair amount of zooming while at school with a teacher elsewhere… but give people options!

  5. The reality is, as currently construed, Teachers unions and police unions are a massive problem. They make it nearly impossible to discipline or remove a bad teacher/cop. We would all be better off if the teachers union and police union were drastically less powerful.

  6. PITMIX – the solution you say we need to provide, has been provided over and over again. That solution is to get the kids back in school in a hybrid model AS PLANNED ALL SUMMER as soon as possible. The “disruption” argument is bogus. The kids can NOT stay in this remote learning situation for the rest of 2020, much less to June 2021. I have a teacher in the family and she is opposed to the union. The teacher’s union is making this a problem. Teachers and parents want the kids going to back to the classroom ASAP, the union doesn’t. Don’t dismiss our valid concerns so flippantly.

  7. In July GUSD published a survey that 67% of parents want to their kids to return to physical school instead of Zoom.
    I am very surprised GUSD did not apply for waivers because August 4 they expressed disappointment that they were now allowed to apply for waivers. Read their letter:
    August 4, 2020
    School Reopening Status Update: Waivers
    Dear GUSD Community:
    Last night, the California Department of Education released long-awaited guidelines on waivers for schools. The most essential criteria is that schools within jurisdictions with 14-day case rates more than two times the threshold to be on the County Monitoring List (>200 cases/100,000 population) should not be considered for a waiver to re-open in-person instruction.
    Because Santa Barbara County exceeds that threshold at 229.2, no waivers will be granted at this time.
    We understand that this is disappointing news, but we continue to plan for a robust and rigorous educational program through our remote and independent studies options.
    We also deeply thank you for your support and encouragement. We are working hard behind the scene and are very excited to begin our new school year!
    Sincerely,
    Donna Lewis, Ed.D.
    Superintendent

  8. Social skills are a key part of K-6 school learning and that is a total fail with Zoom. I wish the Superintendent had just been honest throughout the summer and said her plan was to reject reopening waivers even if granted. She kept our hopes up then dashed them.

  9. There are a lot of comments to sort through here but I’ll throw my opinion into the mix. As a parent of 5 year old kindergartner trying to zoom it’s a failure. The school districts are failing the parents, children, and community as a whole. Only a small percentage of teachers are truly in an at-risk category, those teachers can zoom to students who may also be at risk (or are living with at risk family members). But that is a minority, most people do not qualify as at risk and need to start acting like the essential workers they are. Teachers that are concerned can wear an N95 mask and socially distance with the students, that is in their personal control. Maintaining cohorts reduces the risk of large outbreaks. These are real solutions. What is happening now, is that all private elementary schools will open under a waiver program and the public schools will fall behind. This is a colossal failure by school boards.

  10. There are currently numerous pop up programs throughout the community. In some cases, these pop up programs are being held on public school campuses. Let this sink in, there are groups of children currently sitting in classrooms, doing substandard school lessons online from another school, while a “teacher/daycare provider” stands over them. And, us working parents get to pay lots of money for this privilege while our tax dollars go to another teacher sitting in an empty classroom or their home. You can’t make up the kind of stupidity our school boards have resulted to.

  11. GENERALTREE – how is wanting in-school instruction, WHEN SAFE, “failing our children?” If someone gets infected, yeah, shut it back down and resume via Zoom. But until then, why should our kids not have the opportunity to learn in the proper environment? Not saying today, but when our numbers are under control. Kids are allowed to be out there playing modified sports, summer camps, etc, but not school? Makes no sense. We cannot stay shut down for another year or so until there’s a viable vaccine. Our kids’ educations can’t be put on hold. Kids are out playing in pods and doing many “normal” things, and there has yet to be an outbreak linked to these modified activities. If they’re going to keep the schools closed, then at the very least, they need to beef up and improve this “remote learning” BS.

  12. @general. That’s not true. If one kid or staff is tested positive for Covid, only the person and those they have contacted must quarantine. The whole school will not close down. This is why their are going to be smaller cohorts of kids per segregated class.

  13. 3pm – Please…inform us. What am I missing? Private schools are opening…pre-schools are all open (and have been for months), gyms are open, camps and clubs are open, practically all businesses are open, why are schools not even considering it? A scenario is open and available in which classes are limited to 12-15 people and one teacher. So again, please inform me. What’s ridiculous about being angry that schools aren’t considering reopening right now? That schools are OK with private enterprises stepping in to do their job (the Zoo, Boys & Girls Club, etc).

  14. Sacjon. I have a 6th grader so yes I do “even have kids” I know 4 teachers in town personally who teach k-6. They do not wish to go back and would prefer to wait until the end of the first tri-mester to assess. Why don’t you respect those wishes? You are talking about Jeopardizing the safety of teachers and family members. There really is no “safety” if numbers are “low”. Well, you weren’t defending me when Duke lost it on me several articles ago so why now? Ultimately, it is the boards decision – not yours. There is an article about this 3 days ago in Noozhawk. Again, have a nice day.

  15. GT – why would I defend you? I oppose your position that kids should not go back to school in person no matter what. How is it “Jeopardizing (sic)” the safety of teachers and family members if we do the same thing all the private schools and pre-schools are doing once we have the green light to do so? Again, not now, but when it is safer. I’m sure you “know” 4 teachers, and it seems they agree with me – wait to assess. It’s clear you haven’t understood my stance on this. I have been saying, wait until the numbers are down, even it that is a couple months from now. BUT, then once it is safe, get back in the classroom! That’s basically what your 4 teacher friends are saying. When it is safe, GO BACK to school, just as the teachers and board have been planning all summer. Why can’t they carry out their original plan when it is safe to do so? You seem to be confused and lashing out. Sorry you’re having a bad day.

  16. Wow just 2 weeks in and parents are coming unhinged.. wait till after Christmas break!!
    Fasten your seat belts and put your helmet on it is gonna be a wild ride till then methinks!
    Parents have become to co dependent on schools , so it is a good lesson, and withdrawal is always hard to do…wonder how many divorces are gonna occur in the meantime??

  17. People: Don’t sacrifice your children for the momentary lure of money or status or career. The incidence of contagion, hospitalization and death in children is rising two to three times that of older people in this country. Children cannot safely be in the school environment, nor can their teachers ands school staff. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/31/us/coronavirus-cases-children.html

  18. RHS – huh? What “momentary lure of money or status or career” are you talking about? Everyone wants their kids back in school because they are SUFFERING at home. Many kids are becoming depressed from the isolation or losing out on an education due to the ineffectiveness of zoom “lessons,” or both. This is a TERRIBLE thing for these kids. It has nothing to do with any consideration of status or anything. That is absurd.

  19. The district claimed to have a plan for in person school and was “blindsided” by the Governors decision in June/July to not let schools open…so…I’m just putting their words/claims out there. As for pushing kids back to school, I’m not pushing all kids to go back to school, but why shouldn’t the parents have the choice? Why are you against that? You are seriously OK with private schools opening and private institutions opening their doors…but not the schools? How does that make sense? And how is that even political? I want an honest answer why the School district went from planning to open to…not even considering it.

  20. SACJON, My position was never “to not go back to school no matter what.” Maybe you were confused about my position. I am actually having a great day and just got out of the pool. Time to barbecue. Have a nice day yourself.

  21. Using that argument, why aren’t we closing all grocery stores, restaurants, etc….why are you willing to jeopardize people who deal with hundreds of different people per day as opposed to teachers who a scenario is available in which they would deal with 12-14 people total. How elitist are you? It’s OK for the people at Costco to be there to serve you and hundreds of others each and every day, but for them to expect their teachers to show up and teach a small class is wrong? That’s jeopardizing their family? Unless you are advocating for a complete shutdown of everything, it’s wildly hypocritical to be OK with everything being open except our schools.

  22. Duke. Elitist? You are funny. Ask the governor and the health department if you are unsure why we aren’t closing all grocery stores and restauranats. I don’t support Costco by the way – never spend my money there. It’s wildly hypocritical of you to order a segment of the population to return to work if they don’t feel safe doing it. Do you have have kids in public school here in SB? Our school said early on that there would be either all distance or hybrid learning . The Prinicpal stated there would not be a choice for teachers to decide if they should teach in person or remotely if school reopened. And there would be no choice for students to choose learning from home exclusively.
    Your Tucker Carlson news anti-mask far-right terrorism is too much. You have an opinion – that’s fine – but you aren’t the one making the final decision are you. You are the elitist if you want to put kids in the firing line of bringing home disease to sick or immune compromised family.

  23. The district literally put out a plan saying what they were capable of and expressed disappointment that they weren’t able to implement it. Give people options… and not just people of means who can afford a private education.

  24. SACJON: OK, if the incentive to send our children to contamination is not that it allows parents to get out of child care and work, it must be that the parents are just not up to the task OR that our children are so entitled that they have to have what they want, be it a new cellphone or a trip to Disneyland or the current haircut and the adults can’t say no to them. In my view saying ‘no’ is a critical part of parenting. Protect the children and raise them well.

  25. RHS – Oh I see, you’re blaming parents for being selfish if they want their kids to be in school. Got it, yeah you’re way off. If you think it’s because parent’s don’t want to say “no” to their kids, well…. um, not sure how to respond to that.

  26. BOSCO, what’s your point? Everyone is doing online learning, the children of teachers need to do it also. All photos I’ve seen of this childcare has 2 students, maybe 3 in a classroom. I mean, if your mom teaches 6th grade and you are in 3rd grade, or your mom teaches kindergarten and you are in 1st grade, what do you expect, really?

  27. Dukemunson – your posts Always seem to focus on creativity with school planning. Do you have some sort of a Rube Goldberg complex?
    Do You know what really matters? Life and death! Unless you can Promise me that ALL schools can safely have in-Person learning and no one will die – we should not support reopening schools.

  28. But many schools are open in sb… and a bunch more are about to open… so why not public schools? Why are preschools open.. and private schools… private organizations acting like schools? If your argument/thought is “close everything” Than OK.. that’s honest… I disagree but it’s honest and I respect that. But if your thought is everything is open and that’s ok but school needs to be closed despite what the scientific research and experts are saying than no… that’s ridiculous. Our school boards job is to work to help and educate the youth of SB. If they honestly refuse to open then they are abdicating their duty and should all resign.

  29. I am so grateful that my daughter’s school has applied for a waiver. Her grade will be divided into two cohorts/classes of 9 students each, and those cohorts will remain separate throughout the day. Each child is required to be tested prior to beginning in-person schooling, masks are mandatory, and all classes will be held outdoors as much as is weather-permitted. After seeing my ordinarily robust 11 year old wither and nearly fall off the tree over the last-almost-six-months, I am ecstatic. I’ve run a thorough risk/benefit analysis, and our mental, emotional, social, and societal health is way, WAY outweighing the risk presented by a responsible system. In-person learning for our young ones. This should be everyone’s goal. Maybe stop going to restaurants or strolling State Street with the throngs of tourists on the weekend. Maybe skip your friend’s backyard birthday bbq. Be more responsible in your own daily interactions so that our kids can get an actual education.

  30. I don’t think that is the answer. The school district has vastly superior and larger facilities, not to mention it’s their job. Pre-schools are open. Private schools are about to open. Cold Springs school is about to open. Zoo school is open. The Boys and Girls club is open. Camps and after school programs are open. Kids are out and about. The school district is abdicating their duty by not trying to open. We crossed the Governors threshold to submit a waiver…it is the school districts responsibility to immediately begin filling it out and letting parents know what the options will look like. A situation in which the only kids able to supervised learning situations are rich kids and kids close to private organizations that are open is ridiculous.

  31. And if they think they can (which they had claimed they could in their extensive “hybrid” planning that they detailed in announcing all online)…what’s the answer? Their stated answer was that it would be too disruptive to teachers and administrators to switch back to in person. That’s a ridiculous answer…so…what is the answer? Because they said they can open…and now that they have the green light to open, are choosing to not even to consider it.

  32. From what I heard in the meeting, right now the numbers are still too high and we are still on the state watch list. So, at this point, right now, it’s not safe or smart to re-open. I can understand and support that. BUT….. they did allude to the idea that, even when the numbers go down and we’re off the list, they would avoid re-opening because it would be “disruptive.” That is unacceptable in my mind. They planned all summer for a hyrbid model, not for remote learning, so how is that more disruptive than what we’re doing now?

  33. Teachers are essential workers. We all agree on that! And if private schools are open and private enterprises are taking control of providing “safe supervised spaces for kids to learn” then what are our schools good for? Their job is to provide a safe spot for our kids, many of whom rely on the provided breakfast and lunch…that they are refusing to consider that as it’s “disruptive” is crazy. Fill out the waiver and then present to everyone what it would entail and let the parents choose what they can/must do. If parents can choose to send kids to other schools/activities that have nowhere near the facilities of our schools, the choice to send them to the place designed to be the safe spot for education needs to be available! Not all will take it…but if Soccer camp is open, and the Boys Club is open, Schools should be preparing and trying to open as they claimed they were in June/July.

  34. And what happens once schools reopen and then there is a shortage of tests? Do we get sent back to remote learning? I would rather keep my kids in a stable schedule with remote learning (for now) until those things are figured out. It’s disruptive to everyone, not just teachers. Imagine going from remote to hybrid, then the numbers are up so back to remote, oh wait now numbers are down so we are back to hybrid… just kidding, not enough tests for teachers, back to remote… In my opinion that’s worse.

  35. A lot of parents have pulled their kids from public schools as their are much better prepared options. Something like 100+ families in GUSD have pulled their kids out. Private schools are willing and able to make the commitment to teach onsite and have applied for State waivers. And experienced remote learning (free) charter schools like Olive Grove are booming. Good luck to you and your kids.

  36. Exactly…it’s your opinion, your choice! The schools were planning to give people choices and options. If you want to stay all online to not disrupt your kids schedule, great…that was an option you were going to be given and can easily take! If potentially having to bring your kids back to remote learning from in person because things changed is OK with you, then that should be your choice too! That was supposed to be one of the big positives of the Hybrid…options! And a lot of people will make that same choice that you would make, meaning schools would only be dealing with 50-60% of the students, which…makes the schooling easier for everyone! Less kids in each class! Less kids on each ZOOM! Using the logic of disruption would mean canceling and closing the Boys Club, Junior Lifeguards, Soccer Camp, Gymnastics, etc…maybe for some kids starting tennis camp and then having to stop would be stressfull and their parents shouldn’t sign up for that. For most kids and parents though, those activites are invaluable…and same goes for school. To some kids/parents, even if life closed back down in a month…that month is worthwhile…and should be an option.

  37. LA teachers unions issued their long list of demand, 90% unrelated to education or classrooms, and they have not been met. That is why California public schools are not opening. They all march to the exact same drummer — the California teachers unions. Think about this when you vote for SBUSD school board candidates this Fall. You have choices, so learn who will best serve the needs of local education and the students first; the teacher unions only much later.

  38. Recall Prohibition 20’s Hey? Why not teach there at the clubs? at lots of places –outdoor teaching of concepts , discussion, reading aloud in small pods and demos. Add comfortable mask to “catholic style” uniforms. New math is simply at work with bias. Indoors– massive blast of UV light at end of day. Kills virus. Tier 1 closure level starts at 4- 9 cases per 100,000 in SB???? — do that for other contagious diseases and will not have an economy and new “sicknesses” like rampant crime unleashed. That is not 9% folks who failed math! That is .0009% or 9-one thousandth. Not even 1% or near? prevalence and these are cases not deaths. (95%+recover like all contagions). do massive hand-washing on the hour, and no-touch faces and bingo–All these disinfectant smells make most kids flammable along with Acnemask issues? (adults with zits again too?) Egad, This is from the danger of the new math belief and jargon everyone wants to forget as soon as possible. As Mark Twain quipped generations ago–“there are lies, damn lies, and STATISTICS. Is this yet another case of misused” modeling or pretend- science explorations really political and power-oriented?
    At least open High Schools–please!!!! These kids are already hanging out when they can, and secretly where they can. They can be taught to be careful in person. Teachers can be protected if that is the issue. Most high schools have large outdoor spaces, whiteboards, auditoriums, and ways to encourage group learning. Testing is better than ever and timely now. Bring your own chair outdoors. I have spoken to at least 10 kids of all ages about online learning-they say it is terrible, they have eye issues, dullness, and headaches, they cannot concentrate, some cry every day –all predictable if you read UCLA neuroscience news on earlier research, and other health documentation on “excess screen time” (over 2 hours for little kids nor overdosed! –4 for older kids not including TV, smartphone, homework) which has NOT be researched enough but is scary at the very least with early studies of screen time. Are we complicit in this newly forming kind of CHILD Abuse. Parents are the next group in line for mental health, and economic collapse as their homes become computer centers? As the saying now goes– “It used to take a village to raise a child, now it is a winery! ” Not really funny with three or more online in a home that is a computer center? Let’s get BACK to school with reasonable protection GOV. –protecting us for ignorant politicians using science to hide their deficits of good sense!

  39. Teachers are considered essential enough to be guaranteed their full pay and job positions through June 2021. Regardless if schools open or not, or if we now know one online teacher can do the work of 10 in-classroom teachers.

  40. At face value, yes it is concerning that the “rich” kids will be in-person before others. However, it is much more likely that public school families will be most affected by the eventual COVID outbreak. I say, let the “rich” be the guinea pigs for once.

  41. Just a heads up that every parent (6?) who spoke at the last GUSD board meeting encouraged the district to remain online only. Unbelievably, not one parent spoke in favor of opening the schools immediately to online education.

  42. The SBUSD, GUSD, teachers union, and very many of the teachers themselves (if you’ve watched any of the local school board meetings) have put their writing on the wall a while ago. They don’t want to come back. And hey, they have very little incentive to want to go back to their real work – all day class teaching, not this half day Zoom stuff that’s currently happening with them. In fact, mountain View school for example has even combined grade levels online, i.e. K and 1st together. Wow, even better for the teachers that can now just teach their own kids at home, have more down time to relax, do some home projects, whatever.
    I know there are good teachers out there, probably the minority, who would support applying for the waiver and want to do their best to come back in person. Unfortunately, besides being the minority – not a good position to be in – they’re stuck following the Districts’ mandates (were not going back, we can’t do it, we can’t adapt, we don’t have the ability, yadda yadda excuse list…). This IS an extraordinary time, an extraordinary situation, and would be the time to tap into any and all reserves and make the necessary sacrifices to make this (trying to get the kids back in school). How much sacrifice has been made by so many other people here? Sacrifice and effort are the name of the game right now. Really disappointing show by the Teachers’ Union and local school districts. They’re failing us.

  43. Teachers unions are very strong, protecting them at the expense of the students, and the education system was failing so many of the kids already. Those who have the means will send their kids to private schools, and the poor kids will fail. The civil war in America is not a race war, it is a class war. This is a sad example of how that plays out.

  44. BIGUGLY -we can’t keep schools and businesses closed until it’s “GONE.” That could be an eternity. What we should do is, completely shut down EVERY business/school/pre-school/camp, etc for 2 weeks to get a handle on the numbers, but that won’t happen. No, we need to learn to live with it now.

  45. How did humanity reach this point in history,
    BEFORE schools, salons & other cant-live-withouts?..
    Perhaps they were stronger folks than we..
    Perhaps they were a cohesive nation back then..
    Possibly, they had true-grit instead of entitlement..
    Boot-straps instead of velcro..
    Tell ya what..any country that wants to, could overthrow the U.S. ..weak as water.

  46. Entitlement? The entitlement and lack of tru-grit is the administrators who want to continue taking their salaries without actually doing the work that salary is supposed be paying for. School is not a cant-live-without, your right. But if we’re closing schools and “toughing it out”, can I get a refund on my property taxes, because the “entitled ones” here aren’t the parents annoyed the schools aren’t opening, it’s the ambivalent leaders who take their checks to serve, and don’t serve. That’s the definition of entitlement, and the opposite of “boot straps”. Weak, you say? I couldn’t agree more! It doesn’t get any weaker than the Governor saying you can open and yet those in charge saying that would be too disruptive to the administrators and teachers.

  47. My point is that the district is being hypocritical. I know teachers that have their own children in some of these programs. The district realized that their staff need childcare so they have opened up their classrooms for teachers to bring their own children and then provided private childcare (at the teachers expense). A teacher running a zoom class from an empty classroom while children are sitting in the classroom next door on their own zoom class is hypocritical beyond belief. I don’t see how you don’t get that. Childcare is happening in all ways possible except the one that we need most (and our tax dollars pay for). Now that there is a waiver program, this is a self imposed problem. What I expect is the district to stop forcing parents, teachers, and students to suffer for nothing. It’s no longer about the virus. It’s about their inability to manage a situation we’ve seen coming for months. Their priorities are all wrong.

  48. I was wrong! I admit it…hopelessly and completely wrong! Goleta School District isn’t opening up anytime soon. I thought they’d feel some pressure since private schools and Montecito schools are opening up, but they don’t. I thought when they looked at the health officials recommendations to open they’d follow that, but they aren’t. At least they answered the OP’s question: They aren’t opening because they have no incentive or mandate to open. Their kids are in school at school every day from 7:30am to 3:30pm so they can work. But then actually opening up would be a lot of work! Imagine all the extra TPS reports to file! So no…we’re not opening until an elected official mandates it…and any of us who hoped and thought logic would prevail were wrong. Goleta School District is simply too big to succeed…

  49. It’s never going to be gone. We have to live with it and we have to manage it. Pretending like this is temporary is the wrong way of thinking. An all blanket shut down approach is not feasible. Most European nations have opened schools (with precautions), private schools are opening, daycare centers are open, preschools are open, camps are open. The fact that the public school districts can’t get their $hit together is an embarrassment. It’s another example of our failed institutions.

  50. It’s not just the boys and girls club. I am currently paying $1200 a month for a private daycare to supervise my kid through a zoom class with 10 other kids because we are two working parents. And guess what? it’s on a public school campus. So…SBUSD and GUSD school districts will allow private daycares to operate on school property and use their internet to receive a substandard virtual education. Yet, they refuse to bring kids back to campus to learn from their own staff in person. Let that sink in. How is this ok? Open the schools NOW!

  51. It’s crazy. It’s all day care so it I get why its’ that much. The only reason we’re paying that over private school is that it’s month to month and I am trying to be optimistic that the schools will open. We have a great teacher and school I don’t want to give up on them. But parents gotta work. This is a disaster. We’ve never been under this kind of stress before.

  52. DUKE – yeah I missed it. That is ridiculous. Last week’s meeting I know they decided to not apply for the waiver, but now requiring a “mandate” to open? DO YOUR JOBS! This is bullcrap. If we get off the watch list, they need to open up. If not, there will be some serious pushback from parents. We will make our voices heard for our children!

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