Homeless Camp Near Fairview?

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Why is there still a large homeless encampment on side of Highway 101 near Fairview? Is no one doing anything about it? They have taken over bushes, added tarps, have clothes hanging up, and a giant fort. The last two mornings on the way to work I saw someone openly going to the bathroom. Will Goleta or Santa Barbara do anything about it?

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Curmudgeon Nov 21, 2018 06:43 PM
Homeless Camp Near Fairview?

For an insightful look at the seeds of the problem and how they were sown, the New York Times published a revealing look on October 30, 1984 at how that situation developed. Google "How Release of Mental Patients Began." Highly informative.

a-1542880572 Nov 22, 2018 01:56 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation

Factotum Nov 21, 2018 09:43 AM
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Railroad tracks are nothing more than unpatrolled illegal drug highways. No wonder the vagrants congregate there.

Roger Nov 21, 2018 09:19 AM
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There is another on the Ellwood Bluffs I hear calls there alot for people yelling.

jdoggydogg Nov 21, 2018 08:57 AM
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A big part of the plan calls for the temporary installation of no fewer than 40 “tiny homes” ​— ​commonly known as “sheds with beds” ​— ​at the commuter parking lot by Castillo and Carrillo streets. This is where many of the 50 most chronic and expensive repeat customers who show up at Cottage Hospital’s emergency rooms and the Santa Barbara County Jail will live, we are told, but on a strictly transitional, supervised, temporary, and managed basis. These are the so-called Million-Dollar Murrays and Frequent Flyers who have been giving cops and social service providers fits. By placing them indoors in a supervised setting — with two security guards 24/7 and offices for a city cop — the theory goes, they can be more cheaply and efficiently bombarded with the array of mental-health, detox, health-care, and social services needed to turn their lives around. This is known in the lingo as the “Housing First” model.
-SB Independent

a-1542880486 Nov 22, 2018 01:54 AM
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What you say is true and will save money, as opposed to frequent jailngs and visits to ER.

a-1542849369 Nov 21, 2018 05:16 PM
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"supervised setting — with two security guards 24/7 and offices for a city cop"

Why does this remind me of the monitor that was promised for the skateboard park as a condition of it's being built. That lasted until the first time that the monitor was beaten up for requiring skateboarder to wear helmuts (as required). Now, of course, there is no monitor and almost no helmuts.

a-1542817797 Nov 21, 2018 08:29 AM
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The headline poses the correct question: What will Goleta do about the homeless among its people? Goleta has dodged and ignored and lied about the issue since it became a city. It has no facilities or commitment to help the homeless. It hopes that others such as the city of Santa Barbara and the state of California will do the work. Goleta wants to be unburdened by both the moral duty to help and the perception that anyone from Goleta could be in need. What hypocrisy and greed.

a-1542824205 Nov 21, 2018 10:16 AM
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Goleta has a such a small homeless population that it really doesn't warrant large facilities at this time, NOTHING like SB. The homeless along the freeway are a Caltrans issue, not a city one.

a-1542824082 Nov 21, 2018 10:14 AM
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BIGUGLY - At least Goleta isn't soaked in urine and has family-friendly parks. Sorry, but Goleta is surpassing SB in so many ways these days!

biguglystick Nov 21, 2018 10:13 AM
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Goleta just wants to build, build, build. It's SUCH a shame! Hideous what it has become.

Luvaduck Nov 21, 2018 08:13 AM
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Is this taking place because the suburban but unincorporated area has become a dumping ground for those displaced downtown? Seeing many more. Is the upswing in vandalism/theft/messy public restrooms or ones requiring keys and increased litterin connected?

MountainMan4865 Nov 20, 2018 10:43 PM
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I'm sorry, I grew up here and there are three, if not four separate groups. There are those new vagabonds that travel and ask for $$. There are groups that happily live in homes and pose as individuals, families with children and make up to $300/hour with hand outs. There are those with mental issues, who are not asking the general public to help, but just carrying on. And there are those that are truly homeless, but still working, living out of vehicles/camping and just trying to make it work. You can't just lump them into one group. Tiny houses for those who are just trying to slug it out and exist? Could work. For the ones that need mental health assistance... Could work. For the others? Nope. Expletives to them. It's not one topic. It's many topics.

RHS Nov 22, 2018 10:22 AM
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Not a bad summary but please stop repeating the urban myth about panhandlers making hundreds of dollars an hour. This is Reagan era "welfare queens and Cadillacs" stuff. IF any panhandler makes good money it is rare and it is voluntarily given. IF you don't want to give don't do it. That should not be an excuse/rationalization to deny help to all the needy.

Roger Nov 21, 2018 05:23 AM
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300.00 Dollars an hour huh? Grand Mas old Moo Moo some lipstick, and a hoodie for Joey we might make it work.

SBSBSBSBSBsb Nov 20, 2018 07:47 PM
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Yeah that smoke is very bad for the tele technology in the area. I’ll spend the rest of the evening making up other infrastructure this eye sore effects

a-1542756592 Nov 20, 2018 03:29 PM
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The camp also presents problems with local telecommunication buildings nearby.
The smoke can harm the equipment, and also cause a false alarm/ fire situation internally.
This is a very real issue that needs to be addressed, any smoke ingested into any of these buildings, simulates a real fire scenario inside the building, and fire suppression systems don’t know the difference between them.

Frederick Nov 20, 2018 03:06 PM
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We need similar legislation if not this problem is sure to get much worse.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/10/17/hungary-bans-homeless-people-living-public-spaces-law-described-cruel-by-un/?utm_term=.61aea0f42d65

PitMix Nov 21, 2018 08:50 AM
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Yeah, we want to follow the policies of the far-right facist Hungarians. How did they ever make it into the EU, anyway?

a-1542751239 Nov 20, 2018 02:00 PM
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A-1542750587 - sB wants homeless: they create jobs and job security for government and non-profit workers - one in the same. We will build free tiny homeless villages to attract more homeless . Flyers are being distributed all over SoCal to come here. Other beach communities do not have a homeless problem because they don’t want them. These beach communities participate in regional solutions. Move if you don’t like homeless encampments. SB Police have a City Council stand down Order. They know their right is to camp on any public sidewalk including in front of your house. 9th Circuit, Dems, Republicans like jobs for college grades. Homeless are godsends to SB.

Factotum Nov 21, 2018 09:34 PM
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Former County Supervisor Susan Rose (Hope Ranch) founded New Beginnings which aggressively solicited clients to come here for their programs and publicizing them nationally, including using flyers on RVs . Philanthropist Sara Miller McCune (Montecito) long funded a Homes on Wheels communication network which broadcast an open invitation to come to Santa Barbara for their RV protection programs. Why are the streets and empty spaces in Hope Ranch and Montecito not full of vagrant campers?

biguglystick Nov 21, 2018 10:14 AM
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Where are these "flyers" you speak of? I highly doubt that is true.

mgm Nov 20, 2018 01:13 PM
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Just saw them clearing a camp out on the Mission St. southbound onramp. Yes, more needs to be done, but thought I would mention it, as I saw this post before I left for lunch.

Factotum Nov 20, 2018 01:09 PM
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If transients had the ability to move here, they have the ability to move on. That is where and how they go.

a-1542742560 Nov 20, 2018 11:36 AM
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Is this possible, file a written complaint with zoning? Is the area zoned for camping? Do the campers have adequate toilets, fire hazards, parking, etc. Also, be sure to call police/sheriff and report the camping and INSIST on a Case Number for your complaint. Without a case number, your complaint never happened. Write to county supervisors giving the case number(s) and what you have witnessed.
When your house burns down because of the so-called "campfires" --- actually heating their drugs, you can sue the county or city, keep your proof of a pattern of your reporting danger. Don't be passive. You can be the change you want.

a-1542880250 Nov 22, 2018 01:50 AM
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Please recognize jurisdiction and write to the appropriate body of government. Won't help to write to County Board of Supes about Mission St.

Roger Nov 20, 2018 05:29 PM
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I spoke with a guy over at Trader Joes on Milpas a few weeks ago who told me his house had been on fire acouple times due to a homeless camp along highway 101 maybe that is where they got the info...

a-1542747897 Nov 20, 2018 01:04 PM
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The cooking fires have frequently spread and caused small fires along the 101, so, it's not too "fake" to think they could easily spread to homes nearby the freeway. BUT..... "heating their drugs?" Lol, come on. Do you think they burn weed in open fires? Cook spoons of heroin like smores in their camp fires? Please....

a-1542747621 Nov 20, 2018 01:00 PM
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*When your house burns down because they were heating their drugs*?? OMG, where do you get your obviously fake and propagandist news?

a-1542742269 Nov 20, 2018 11:31 AM
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I reported this encampment via the online complaint system. That was after going by on two separate occasions and seeing dogs near the highway. They were not on leash and you could see the tents tucked away under the bushes. Looks like nothing has been done. The comment about what you see from the train is true. I just can't imagine anyone in the area tourism business not trying to get something done, not to mention the health hazard to the homeless living in these conditions. I read that Lompoc got rid of their homeless encampments in the riverbed, to the tune of close to $1 million. Why can't SB/Goleta/Montecito do the same? Why do people who pay premium to own a home in these areas accept the homeless taking over their shopping areas and public spaces.

a-1542880102 Nov 22, 2018 01:48 AM
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Not to mention that Prop 10 had nothing to do with *passing*"rent control," but with giving jurisdictions the flexibility to do so.
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http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/10/

Abc109 Nov 21, 2018 08:50 PM
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Biguglystick has a point. Vote down rent control, and you have fewer people able to afford to live in a place they are actually connected to and care about. Replace them with wealthy out-of-towners, who don't actually live here or give a hoot beyond collecting their astronomical rents. These are the perils, Santa Barbara. Decide what's more important to you. Just please quite talking out both sides of your mouth.

CoastWatch Nov 21, 2018 10:48 AM
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So move to Santa Paula, Santa Maria, or Fresno. I'd like to live on the beach in Malibu, but even after the fire, I can't afford a burned out lot... Boo-hoo, so sad and sorry for myself...

biguglystick Nov 21, 2018 10:18 AM
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Pay a premium... to own a home! haha! You mean a mint? A bloody effing FORTUNE? This place is out of control. Housing costs NEED to come DOWN. Now. I'm so bummed that 10 didn't pass. Shame. California is in a crippling housing crisis, and when we get something on the ballot to help combat it, the real estate barons and rich landowners pay a bundle to stamp it down with false information ads. SHAME.

letmego Nov 20, 2018 11:27 AM
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I too find the homeless encampments and transients downtown to be a nuisance, not to mention a public health hazard. But where are they supposed to go? I mean, you can oust them, get rid of them, whatever - but they don't actually disappear. They still exist. They are still homeless. They don't cease to be a "problem". And if you don't have a home, where are you going to pee?

a-1542749664 Nov 20, 2018 01:34 PM
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One help would be mandatory drug testing for all welfare recipients. If they have a drug problem that they prefer to keep rather than get treatment they will move elsewhere.

oceandrew Nov 20, 2018 12:55 PM
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Exactly LETMEGO!! What do people expect the police to do? Put 'em in jail? Put them up at the Faulding hotel? Beat them up so badly they need medical attention? All that costs money and the "small government crusaders" have made sure we don't pay as much in taxes so there are no funds for the "special projects" some citizens cry for. No taxes = no special projects... arguably a simplistic view but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the less you pay for something (public services) the less you get.

S.B.Dutchman Nov 20, 2018 10:50 AM
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Take a ride on the Amtrak and see just how many camps there are along the rail road right of way. Northbound they don't stop until Winchester canyon.

hz Nov 20, 2018 10:24 AM
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where are the homeless people supposed to go..we have thousands more now after the fires esp. the camp fire and the fire outside Redding and the Santa Rosa fire last year and no housing stock. There are 100s of thousands of people living without shelter..and not all of them are dirt bags..there are respectable people out there too.... do the mentally ill deserve to be treated with disdain and disgust when there is so little help for them. WE need more places like tiny homes , cabins that also have comunal showers and laundrys and kitchens. Seattle has a good working model...we just need more and we need to change our ides and attitudes. When we demonize others less fortunate than ourselves we are looking at a reflection of ourselves. are we part of the solution or part of the problem. The homeless population problem is not going to simply dissapear just because we don't like it.
https://www.facebook.com/142443583197853/photos/p.336387393803470/336387393803470/
Tiny Cabins Safe Harbor

biguglystick Nov 21, 2018 10:23 AM
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How do you know? Do you personally talk to each and every homeless person out there and ask them what happened to them to get them to where they are now? You do NOT know that some of these people weren't displaced by the many California fires, recent, or not so recent. As the housing crisis grows and continues and as the cost of living rises and rises, we will not be seeing an end to homelessness, just an ever growing homeless population and more crime because desperate people do desperate things.

a-1542741164 Nov 20, 2018 11:12 AM
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HZ - the homeless problem in SB/Goleta is not affected by the fires. These aren't refugees from the fires. Also, people displaced by fires and disasters are not in the same boat as those who are homeless, either by choice (urban traveler types) or by disabilities/addictions causing their situation.

oops Nov 20, 2018 10:34 AM
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DO NOT perpetuate that Seattle has a good working model. It has become a bigger S***Hole than almost any major city. It's actually a vision for what SB is becoming...may I remind you of the needle stick to small child in the park.

Factotum Nov 20, 2018 10:34 AM
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Seattle has a dreadful working model. of "tiny homes" July 2018: ..."Seattle’s eighth tiny-house village opened as KIRO 7 gets answers on what’s being done to make a tiny-house village already at Licton Springs safer. KIRO 7 investigations have shown that crime has risen in the nearby Licton Springs neighborhood, and at least one of the so-called ”villagers” has been attacked, too. .....
Indeed, the village in Licton Springs has been an unwelcome addition to that North Seattle neighborhood. Neighbors’ complaints about an uptick in crime was borne out by stats KIRO 7 received from Seattle police in late spring. In one year, crime in Licton Springs is up more than 100 percent. Year-to-date, crime was up 80 percent. This, as crime overall in the North Precinct dropped seven percent....... (MyNorthwest)

CoastWatch Nov 20, 2018 10:12 AM
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It CalTrans property on one side and the Southern Pacific Railroad on the other- Goleta has nothing to do with it.

Factotum Nov 20, 2018 10:11 AM
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Santa Barbara city and non-profits, in particular, send out messages to the world telling them how they welcome and provide for transients. What do you expect to happen?

biguglystick Nov 21, 2018 10:21 AM
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I'm sorry, but where are these "messages" you speak of? This is NOT true at all. The city of Santa Barbara does not send out messages for homeless people to come here, that is preposterous and outrageous and simply not true.

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