Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

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Source: SBCAG

An unmet transit needs listening session will take place from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, via Zoom Webinar hosted by the Santa Barbara County Association of Governments (SBCAG). The public is encouraged to stop by anytime during the two-hour virtual listening session to share comments or concerns about bus systems, dial-a-ride and paratransit services in Santa Barbara County, or express needs for new or expanded services in the county. Spanish language interpretation services will be available during the listening session.

Those unable to attend the December 1, 2021, listening session can take an online survey in English or Spanish until Friday, December 3, 2021. The public can also submit comments in writing to SBCAG at 260 North San Antonio Road, Suite B, Santa Barbara, CA 93110, or by email to

Comments provided at the listening session, on the online survey, or in writing are shared with local decision makers, transit agencies, and the California Department of Transportation to help influence options for transit services and projects. A summary of public input is presented to Santa Barbara County Transit Advisory Committee and SBCAG Board of Directors in early 2022.

WHAT: Unmet Transit Needs Listening Session

WHEN: 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., Wednesday, December 1, 2021, (visit virtually anytime during the two-hour listening session)

WHERE: Zoom Webinar*: Webinar ID: 843 8403 4139; Passcode: 718234; OR Telephone: (669) 900-9128

*Spanish-language interpretation services available

DETAILS: SBCAG is committed to providing access and reasonable accommodations for this meeting. In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, accommodation requests should be made by Monday, November 29 to SBCAG at (805) 961-8900.

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PitMix Nov 30, 2021 08:28 AM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

Any change to the current system will be opposed by the driver's unions with their numbers of well-paid workers for a job that doesn't require a degree. That will be hard to overcome.

Byzantium Nov 29, 2021 08:30 AM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

First step in any decision making process is unfettered brainstorming. All idea on the table with no pre-censorship. Then sort out the viable suggestions and discard the non-viable ones. But let all suggestions flow in consideration at the first level. Moving people from A to B is the first layer of consideration. Then costs, benefits, risks and feasibility can be assigned later. But the goal is people movement - what are the varieties of ways people can move from point A to point B. A sky ways is one of them, just as much as a fixed rail transit system or vouchers for Uber. Thinking inside and outside of the box is rule number one at the very first layer of decision making.

Byzantium Nov 28, 2021 02:33 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

The public transit most of us like in Europe is fixed rail - you know exactly where a line goes because its route is set into the road way, and it is frequent enough so you don't need a time schedule. Nosier than a bus, but probably very doable with modern technology. What fixed rail routes would serve most of Santa Barbara within a 4 block radius. How frequently would they need to run to meet 80% of public transit needs.How do we marry fixed rail with auto traffic sharing the same streets. Santa Barbara neighborhoods, common destinations and low growth patterns are more stable than most other cities, making this a far more predictable public transit option.

Byzantium Nov 28, 2021 02:28 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

Most asked tourist question - how do you get to the Old Mission? Answer: not easily. Try it sometime and see how this popular destination for tourists can be made more accessible by public transit. Current answer: take a State Street bus, get off near East Los Olivos and hike uphill a few blocks. By all means, do not get off at Mission to get to the Mission.

SantaBarbaraObserver Nov 28, 2021 07:15 AM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

It is probably cheaper for the city to pay for Uber/Lyft rides for those who use the bus than to pay for busses and drivers that are 95% empty 95% of the time... Maybe have a few busses run the popular routes but subsidize ride share or better yet, come up with a hybrid model with mini vans acting as always on ride share on a pre determined routes. Need a lift? Check the app, go to the stop, and wait for the smaller van to come along. Has to be cheaper.

Ahchooo Nov 28, 2021 11:18 AM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

My (admittedly incomplete) understanding is that MTD often gets grants to cover the cost of buses. The drivers are the main expense. A small van and a big, half-empty bus cost the same, driver-wise. (Obviously there are other costs: fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc. ) I wonder if there are other cities using a hybrid model like SBObserver mentions.

RockwellBAD2 Nov 27, 2021 07:37 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

What is a “listening session”? The phrase is mentioned at least six times in the article but is SBCAG listening or are participants listening? Just slightly confused.

a-1638075515 Nov 27, 2021 08:58 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

I think it means that the folks at MTD will be listening to what customers want. They are seeking input to present to the SB County Transit Advisory Committee, etc.

CoastWatch Nov 27, 2021 06:42 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

Exactly why Public Transportation is a fail in the United States... Never dependable, never on time and closes down without when needed... I have to LAUGH at the "make it FREE"... This idiot is the reason our Nation is Trillions in debt- "I need the government in my life" - What happened to PRIDE...? It amazed me a few years ago volunteering to pass out food at a food bank- "I want that, we don't eat that"are there free backpacks for my kid(s)...." NO one in Western Europe would THINK of taking free handouts... Our culture is deteriorating....

Justbeachy Nov 27, 2021 05:29 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

We're a tourist town 12 months a year, 7 days a week, that is where most of Santa Barbara's money comes from. . Many residents rely on MTD to get to work & back even on holidays, they also rely on MTD to visit family & loved ones. When did the MTD Holiday Bus Schedule become NO Service at all. Ever since the cut back of busses from COVID MTD has used COVID as an excuse to raise fares & dramatically reduce Service. Its a bunch of BS. Hire more drivers and start transporting the public like it's intended too. It's the only form of public transportation we have

Transparent Nov 27, 2021 04:44 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

It's unclear to me if this is just about bus / para-transit, or more general input about regional transportation infrastructure. Does anyone know or can share the scope what decisions this input will (pretend to?) influence.

Ahchooo Nov 28, 2021 03:24 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

I understand what you’re saying, CadillacKid. Those split schedules, long days. It’s not a simple day job. And so many of the drivers live in Lompoc or Ventura, so they have to drive a ways just to get to their driving job. They do have a pretty good union though, don’t they?

Cadillackid Nov 28, 2021 11:29 AM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

I understand people need rides but if you knew the schedule of some of those drivers, it’s just sad to me that most of them can’t spend quality time with their families and friends because they sign up to be slaves, but that what they choose so I guess you can disregard my comments I’m just ranting my bad achoo, bless you thank you

Ahchooo Nov 27, 2021 03:35 PM
Public Asked to Give Input on Unmet Transit Needs

Huh? You think they’ll gather people’s comments and then tell the drivers “You can’t go home tonight, people still need rides”? It’s about allocating resources where they are most needed, shifting routes to meet shifting demands.

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