More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

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The Santa Barbara Housing Authority (SBHA) is set to purchase 200 N La Cumbre Road. It was discussed at their meeting Wednesday, June 5th at 4:00PM. The plan is to have the Board authorize the purchase for $4.2M and place 45-65 low-income homes on the site. If approved the property will be purchased for development.

Has anyone heard about this plan and does anyone know the outcome of the meeting?

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Frederick Jun 10, 2019 11:27 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

There's no question lots of affordable housing is needed for all the low and middle income wage earners who keep this town running. The city should really focus on good bus service to Lompoc which is only an hour away with a much cheaper housing market.

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 10:29 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Memo to Murillo - it is not your money to hand out; it is our money you take from us. From Noozhawk: “All of these projects are deserving,” Freedman said during (city budget) deliberations. Mayor Cathy Murillo echoed his remarks. “If we had the money, I would give it to all of you who are asking for it,” she said.

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 09:26 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Drop the term "affordable housing"; that is a nonsense term. Call it what it really is - subsidized, price fixed, windfall housing for a very privileged few. at the expense of the many. Audit who actually gets these few "affordable" units. You cannot run an honest campaign promising "affordable housing" - it is the basest pandering for votes possible. Reject any candidate who tries to sell you these lies.

am1234 Jun 08, 2019 09:58 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

YES! we need to find candidates to run in the next election that care about our city and not be a puppet to their party. These last guys ran on the party of Santa Barbara, the party of common sense building, taking care of the homeless issue, bringing back Downtown, expediting permits for businesses. None of that apparantly is as sexy as "affordable housing for all" If you want to live you, you should live here and we will make it possible for you !! That will get the votes every time.

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 09:15 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Used to be a political rule in this town you had to run three times in order to finally win. Too many good candidates give up after the first failed run; when in fact their second or third run is when they can sell their message the best -see what I told you would happen and it did. Now finally give me a chance to make it better. Every year city perks and pensions take up more and city revenues and nothing gets done. The only solution right now is more development and more new taxes. This alone is a platform of failure three good candidates can run on and win.

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 09:10 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Back in the 1970's when Santa Barbara was also losing to over-development, a grass group of independents banded together and took over the city agenda for a good number of years. Then Gov Jerry Brown unionized public workers, and of late this district election abomination has now sliced and diced the city into highly self-interested Democrat machine satraps. Two fatal strikes against effective local governance; but grass roots pushback is still real when you look at the appalling voter turnout numbers particularly in some of these newly created "districts". Your two biggest issues will be (1) repairing the fiscal insanity left behind by prior city councils in terms of ever-increasing city employee perks and pension demands which now devour every penny of new city revenues and (2) city council members who think more development is the answer to these self-inflicted city budget woes. The biggest issue is not "affordable housing" - which is only a fantasy land promise, masquerading as disguised pay-offs for funding unsustainable city employee perks and pensions. City Hall thinking has dropped into LaLaLand.

a-1561571972 Jun 08, 2019 08:43 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Santa Barbara’s elected Council wants 50,000 more “affordable” housing units to fill in every foot of space up to 4-stories to use every drop of reclaimed dirty water to satisfy their masters - the block voting DEM public that empowers Council and Sacramento to the demise of CA. How do you vote? Will you run as a grassroots “take s pause on growth independent candidate” to unseat a Rep? We need leaders ASAP. Run or find candidates.

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 09:00 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Independents lost because too many voters stayed home. Too many voters also get dazzled by the highly touted candidates" fund-raising" numbers, as if this was an independent endorsement of their qualities; when it fact it is just the opposite. This astro-turf "fundraising" lets you know up front who was bought, signed, sealed and delivered to the Democrat-city employee union machines. You can out-vote them; but not if you give up and stay home. Ignore the fund-raising numbers and go for the candidate that fits your own vision for this town.

am1234 Jun 08, 2019 08:51 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

We tried that last election, none of those Independent's won. All the candidates that won, ran on affordable housing platforms. You voted for this mess. Our mayor loves this stuff, so does the 4th and 5th district elects. We had competent people running against them, but they were not democrats, so they lost.

EastBeach Jun 07, 2019 09:08 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Good and not so good memories of that address ... the doctors who took care of me as a kid growing up in this town had an office there. Drs. Cooper, Holderman, and Kay were the kind of caring family practice doctors that are so hard to find these days.

a-1561571972 Jun 07, 2019 03:57 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Genuinely curious...if the newly built property is first sold to a "low-income household", are there restrictions on who the property can later be sold, and by what amount? In other words, does the seller of a low income unit have to sell to another low income household at a "lower than market rate" price? Who confirms and manages all of this? I'm guessing that this is just a burden for the builder, a windfall for this first buyer, and a reversion to market rates thereafter. But hope that someone can clarify how it really works.

a-1561571972 Jun 07, 2019 12:58 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Poor Santa Barbara. We never seem to be able to stave off the greed mongers. What does it matter if we voted to cap population or voted to remain sustainable? When the locals get together now, all we talk about is how much things have changed----and not at all for the better. "Pack 'em and stack 'em" is right.

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 08:39 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

One a few hundred votes elected city council persons in some of our newly formed "districts". All it takes is enough people who want change from the current Democrat-city employee union machine to actually show up and vote. Look at the turn out in all the districts up for election this year. Only a few votes were required to be a "winner" and get a full vote on city council. These new "districts" violate fundamental principles of democracy, which also include the duty to show up and vote. The Democrat machine is highly disciplined and organized, but they still represent only a minority of qualified voters. Their strength is they actually show up and vote which is why the machine keeps winning. But not by overwhelming numbers of voters - by abdication of the rest of us. You can beat the Democrat machine. Just do it. Don't let their fund-raising numbers become a surrogate for "good governance". Don't even let thier fund-raising numbers mean they are the "peoples choice". Their fund-raising numbers are purely the results of the machine shaking down city employee union interests - which are 100% self-serving.

a-1561571972 Jun 08, 2019 08:31 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

You can’t find prepared, informed, educated life-experienced candidates to run for Council. They’re all mediocre or worse, owned by the Dem machine except for Rowse. 4 are up for RE-Election and will each keep their seats having voted as instructed by a Mayor, Gregg Hart, and their keepers AKA handlers.

a-1561571972 Jun 07, 2019 04:36 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Yes, they all ran their campaigns on affordable housing , so if you voted for the new council, then you voted for more affordable housing. Every one of their speeches included this as a hot topic, not much on homeless or other things discussed BUT affordable housing for all who votes for them.

am1234 Jun 07, 2019 04:36 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Yes, they all ran their campaigns on affordable housing , so if you voted for the new council, then you voted for more affordable housing. Every one of their speeches included this as a hot topic, not much on homeless or other things discussed BUT affordable housing for all who votes for them.

a-1561571972 Jun 07, 2019 03:27 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

It is our fault. We elected city council members who did not govern to our wishes. Instead they chose to give away housing in exchange for votes (how many people who are getting subsidized housing would vote against those who would create more)?

RHS Jun 07, 2019 08:41 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

I am beginning to agree that the mayor and Friedman are sold out to real estate speculators. Recently both voted no on the requirement that new apartment/condo units include at least 15% (10% in downtown business area) affordable housing that would accommodate real middle class renters. The mayor is quoted as saying that this is a bad idea as it would drive away more apartment construction! What ever is being planned at the La Cumbre site it is not enough to simply mouth "AUD" as it is clear that money will figure out how to comply with these requirements without actually housing middle income folks (much less the poor).

Factotum Jun 08, 2019 08:27 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Team Murillo sold out to the employee unions, who think more growth will bring in more tax revenues to fund the very generous city employee perks and pensions. That is their association with "developers" - their unfounded connection that more growth will fund more city employee benefits. The city contract benefits cost more money every year, where is that money coming from? It is a zero sum game in this town, so Team Murillo sees growth as the only solution.

jak Jun 07, 2019 07:53 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Quality of life in Santa Barbara is going down the tubes! That’s why rents and housing prices are falling so rapidly. Hey, wait a minute...

a-1561571972 Jun 07, 2019 07:47 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Pack em and stack em City planners, at the behest of the council, WANT to degrade residents' quality of life. Please explain this policy and how it is in the best interest of city residents to overbuild, create unmitigable impacts, lower quality of life,and generally FUBAR the city. Council must be held accountable for their malevolent behavior.

CoastWatch Jun 07, 2019 12:48 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Really...? If someone has a different prospective than yours, they are MAGA, or Nazi's or Communist's... That says it all, right there... @FLICKA, most of the people I know in Carp HAVE been affected by the changes there- One friend sold their home and moved to the SYV to get away from the smell of cannabis which was growing 100 yrds from their home...

Factotum Jun 06, 2019 05:11 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Ringing another commercial retail sales tax generation location in this town with non-discretionary spending low income housing units is again sheer folly. Look at the downtown retail corridor and see how many SBHA are saturated in that now failing retail tax generating part of town. Low income housing on low value land should be the rule. Save market rate housing for high value land. SBHA needs to be checked and city council members need to stop patting themselves on the back, since they refuse to research the long term fiscal impact the ever growing numbers of subsidized housing impact on the rest of this city's financial future. You did it; you created exemplary windfall housing for a chosen few. You will never build enough to meet the demand to live on the cheap in this town. Stop it!

Bene Jun 07, 2019 01:58 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Our wonderful city council actually has another plan to "meet the demand to live on the cheap." They have passed JustCause Eviction/rent control/mandatory lease. This makes tenants, in essence, own the landlords property for life, if they wish, as getting anyone off your property will now become all but impossible. Now all landlords, even those who live on the same property as tenants, would have to meet a nearly impossible set of conditions to ever remove anyone even if the tenant is dangerous to landlord or other tenants. It also makes the landlord have to pay big bucks "relocation," and also makes it easy for tenants to just not pay rent at all. They get many months of non payment before a landlord is even allowed to TRY to get payment. This of course, only helps the problem tenants who want to freeload indefinitely. The good tenants don't need these protections as any landlord in their right mind would not evict a "good" tenant. Turnover is mucho expensive! All this does is make the smaller mom and pop landlords who rent undermarket prices sell their properties in a panic--to big commercial interests. The end goal of these groups pushing for these draconian "just cause" rules, some state on their websites, is to end private property ownership and have all housing owned and allocated by the state.

Factotum Jun 06, 2019 05:05 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Who is expected to make up the loss of property taxes as the SBHA machine gobbles up private enterprise in this town? Where is the city's profit/loss statement for the total of all these subsidized public housing schemes. Who benefits; who gets the windfalls; what overall loss to city revenues. Even when "free money" builds these windfall units.

NativeofSB Jun 06, 2019 04:21 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Interesting.......this parcel happens to be just inside the City of Santa Barbara boundaries, while a portion of the mall is County of Santa Barbara? We were only charged 7.75% sales tax at Williams Sonoma the other night. Would be nice to know where exactly the boundary is, as in County and City.

tagdes Jun 06, 2019 07:19 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Google is your friend . This parcel is well within SB City limits by over 3 blocks as is the mall in it's entirety.

a-1561571972 Jun 06, 2019 02:51 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

600+ AUDs Headed to the area. The Sears property owners want to build over 550 AUD plus commercial space. This SBHA property will likely be over the number proposed. Upper State will finally have to deal with the problems on the Eastside. You can thank the Councilmemers and mayor that support the AUD for future problems with traffic and unaffordability. They are: Murillo, Friedman, Gutierrez, Rowse and Harmon. If we want to save Santa Barbara we need to get rid of: Murillo, Friedman, Gutierrez and Harmon.

CoastWatch Jun 06, 2019 01:59 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

SB Housing Authority does what it wishes with Carte Blanche from our City Leaders. They don't care what impacts they have on YOUR neighborhoods or the Traffic issues that plague a town of 95,000 with 200,000+ vehicles... Santa Barbara's infrastructure can only sustain so much- Whether that be water resources, sewage processing, road wear, traffic and most of all...QUALITY OF LIFE, which is quickly degrading in Santa Barbara / Goleta/ Carp. For some reason 20% of all housing units be taxpayer subsidized within the City of Santa Barbara isn't enough- I guess the Barcara and other "service industries" and the uber Montecito rich who "need help" will continue to pay sub-par wages or under the table pay and WE, the taxpayers will subsidize the workers housing... Nice.

SBWalkers Jun 07, 2019 09:56 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

so, you are saying there are no murders in expensive housing developments or expensive home? Jeezers, I wish I was rich so I won't be murdered.

a-1561571972 Jun 07, 2019 08:49 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

And, of course, one of the murders last week was in a SB Housing Authority subsidized apartment. What we are subsidizing is more crime and more traffic. If that is what the residents want then all they need to do is re-elect the current city council.

Frederick Jun 06, 2019 01:29 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

That whole area is becoming one big cluster F of traffic with all the new apartments and condos getting built.

PitMix Jun 06, 2019 01:18 PM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

The agenda says this is a 1.34 ac parcel currently with medical offices. Could they really get that many units on a small parcel like this? Would have to be really small units and no parking.

a-1561571972 Jun 08, 2019 08:35 AM
More Low Income Housing on La Cumbre?

Yes. Small units with no parking. The more we pack in, the more jobs we can support for government workers: teachers, nurses, social workers, psychologists, MTD, and all the Non Profit Organizations.

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