Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

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By TwoScoops

NOLETA?  An unofficial name of a densely populated area, mostly between #101 and the ocean, but goes north up the hill, too.  Have these Edison power shutoffs have been primarily in Noleta?  Why not other high wind areas that have a more recent history of big fires.

San Marcos High School, Turnpike Shopping Center, Lane Farms, Page Youth Center, Girls, Inc., and Hope Ranch Annex are in Noleta. All of Turnpike is in Noleta, as is Tucker’s Grove Park.  It includes 93110, 93111, and 93105, and the address is Santa Barbara; Goleta on the west, Hope Ranch and Santa Barbara on the east at the #154/#101, the Pacific Ocean on the south (at More Mesa), and north of the 101 for miles, up along #154.  

The Sheriff is the law, no local police.  CHP handles traffic/parking issues.  For Noleta residents, does this work well?

Governance is strictly Board of Supervisors, no City Council.  When good reporters report on news in the area they say, “near Santa Barbara” or “near Goleta”. Noleta has been targeted for these power failures.  The one Supervisor for Noleta  is 2nd District:  Greg Hart, Vice Chair, 805.568.2919, ghart@countyofsb.org

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a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 02:37 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Sounds like San Francisco has offered to purchase the PG&E assets that serve their city for $2.5B. Yep, that's billion. Whooo...them poles and infrastructure ain't cheap.

yin yang Sep 10, 2019 02:27 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

This discussion is pointless until the outages are defined and addressed as power outages due to conditions versus PSPS. ---------------------------------------------------- Board of Supes SHOULD get involved. From what I read and heard, it was handled very poorly, which I expected. BUT -- we can't have a rational discussion until we're talking about the same thing!

a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 02:24 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Hope Ranch is unincorporated Santa Barbara, like Noleta, and like Montecito - All are county, not city. Is Hope Ranch power underground?

a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 02:01 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Edison and S.B. County, create list of special hotel/motel rates, neighboring power turn off areas, where seniors can evacuate to stay cool. The list could include hotels/motels with generators. Here's the list created during our 2018 storm and evacuations: https://santabarbaraca.com/content/uploads/2018/03/Storm-Evacuee-Hotel-Rate-List_Updated-2.28.18.pdf

a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 01:24 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

CDC, "A large-scale disaster could make it difficult to find an open pharmacy, let alone fill a prescription. Create a 7 to 10-day emergency supply of prescription & over-the-counter medications, and store away from kids and pets." Will pharmacies close during Edison power outages, anyone know?

a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 09:38 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

It seems like the power goes off frequently in lower eastside and lower westside and downtown. Las Flores Canyone facility; could be a solution handled by locals. S.B. County showed how magnificent they are, when they organized the removal of a mountain from Montecito. I think they're able to do this.

a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 08:47 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

When power is off, you can't pump gasoline. I checked with Turnpike Fuel Depot, at Calle Real/Turnpike, and they have no generator, so when power goes off, they close. Do any gas stations have generators. Of course if a few do, they'd run out of gas immediately, since all others would be closed. Keep your tank "topped up". Cars need gas. Do generators?

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 05:38 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Montecito Power or Santa Barbara County Power Company. There are some really smart people on Edhat and give your ideas. Who could be on a committee?

Z Sep 10, 2019 03:46 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

No, SCE doesn't get energy from LA. Yes, SCE energy for SB comes through Ventura from the intertie facility at Buttonwillow. LA is serviced by LA Department of Water and Power, of the City of Los Angeles. SCE is primarily an electrical-energy distributor. It purchases almost all of its "product" from independent generation companies. It still owns a number of small hydroelectric plants and is on the hook for its San Onofre Nuclear Wasting Facility. Sacramento and San Diego are like LA with their own highly politicized and expensive energy vendors. All are governed by the Californjia Public Utilities Commission which was formed ((like the Air Resources Board) to keep the politicians at arms length from important stuff.

a-1569139013 Sep 10, 2019 09:00 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

x2 politically incorrect for this town, but the Las Flores Canyon facility would be an ideal partner and co-location for such a natural gas power plant.

Shasta Guy Sep 09, 2019 09:26 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

This is a way to take control. It would be the most politically incorrect thing for this town. We could use clean burning natural gas for generating electricity for our area so that we wouldn’t be dependent on SCE to ship us power from LA through Ventura county. We really are energy hostages of LA. If and when LA has its big one, we should be able to maintain our own power generating capacity. It’s the same concept of having our own water needs met by Cachuma, even though it gets dicey in severe drought years. The South Coast Unufied Electric Company.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 04:05 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

The incomprehensible map provided for Noleta by Edison showed the outage area would include from across the #101, over Hollister to Puente, all the way to the ocean. That's a huge number of households-very high density-- impacted, with security implications and more. This was not a high fire hillside off the #154.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 03:26 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Noleta and Montecito are both in unincorporated S.B. County. They are equal.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 03:08 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Adverse effects of power outages, inflicting more harm than protection: "...firefighters who are responding to fires will not have adequate water that relies on electric pumps to fill tanks and pressurize hydrants.” https://www.noozhawk.com/article/will_shutting_off_power_to_prevent_wildfires_inflict_more_harm_than_protect

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 02:27 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Pasadena CA. The Glenarm Power Plant has powered the City of Pasadena since July 4, 1907. The power plant has been expanded over time and has included a total of 17 different power generation units. "Pasadena Water and Power strives for a balanced and sustainable mix of power supply sources, one that ensures service reliability and competitive rates for our customers. We receive and transmit high voltage electricity, generated locally or purchased from a mix of conventional and renewable energy sources, and step it down to deliver low voltage electricity to more than 65,000 customers throughout Pasadena." https://ww5.cityofpasadena.net/water-and-power/power/

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 02:25 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

SAN FRANCISCO — "In an effort to create a city-run electric utility in San Francisco, mayor London Breed and city attorney Dennis Herrera issued a statement Sunday outlining an offer to pay $2.5 billion to acquire Pacific Gas and Electric Co. power infrastructure serving the city." Our County of S.B. removed a whole mountain from Montecito; maybe they can run a power plant. City of S.B. invested in water treatment for ocean water. Maybe they, too, can create our own power.

Shasta Guy Sep 09, 2019 12:25 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

This was the first preemptive shutdown that just happened to be in your area based on the wind forecast. No secret conspiracy here. When we have a more widespread wind event we’ll all get shut down.

Shasta Guy Sep 09, 2019 09:15 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

You are correct Z, no PSPS shutdown for Noleta only standard outages. All PSPS shutdowns were west of Goleta. My mistake.

Z Sep 09, 2019 02:35 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Noleta was not shut down premptively. Shutdowns (plural) were to enable repairs of system component damages caused by wind. Only SCE PSPS shutdown in Santa Barbara service area was on the Dos Pueblos/Naples to Jalama segment.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 12:08 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

The term Noleta is ridiculous. The comments above are correct about how this slang term for the area came to be, but it is absurd so many people still use it. Everyone from local news outlets to local government officials seem to think that is the actual name. It’s irritating and incorrect. Zip codes 93111, most of 93110 and half of 93105 are Santa Barbara. Unincorporated Santa Barbara County which is Santa Barbara. This area of Santa Barbara happens to be in the Eastern Goleta Valley. Let’s start calling Lompoc Lompuke or Oxnard The Nard. Noleta is just as dumb as those slang terms.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 10:36 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Chosen by whom? Some people who hated Goleta years ago? I’m curious where you consider the boundaries of Noleta to be? You stated “Unincorporated Santa Barbara County is HUGE “ Not sure why huge is in all caps , but thanks for the reference Donald Trump. My point was it’s just Santa Barbara. Plain and simple. No the name Hendrys Beach doesn’t bother me because we call it The Pit.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 12:32 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

I don't think calling the area Noleta is "irritating and incorrect". It is a chosen name that people understand. Unincorporated SB is HUGE, doesn't make sense to refer to it as such. Eastern Goleta Valley is also a poor choice, I wouldn't know exactly what that was referring to and I've lived here for 30 years. Noleta makes sense to the people who live here. Does it also bother you that Arroyo Burro Beach is referred to as Hendry's, since that's not its "actual" name?

Technoid Sep 09, 2019 11:56 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Because PGE, the County, the Firefighters, and the State hate you. Puleez, its because Noleta is judged by the experts to be high risk....

tagdes Sep 09, 2019 12:04 PM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

But So Cal Edison loves them. that's why they shut off the power to make sure there are no wildfires in that area.

SBSBSBSBSBsb Sep 09, 2019 11:39 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

You haven’t been “targeted” nor are you experiencing “power failure”. It’s a preventative measure to stop the risk of power lines starting wildfires during high wind events. They are shutting the power off intentionally. Edhat is getting out of control.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 11:10 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

The OP implies that lack of representation has contributed to the actual and planned power outages of Noleta. For starters, I doubt it. The area of "Noleta" happens to be an area that includes foothills and is prone to wildfires. It's also where many of the main power line arteries are located. Second, while I can't speak for every unincorporated neighborhood near Goleta/SB, mine was part of an high pressure attempt effort by the City of Goleta for annexation/incorporation. The entire neighborhood of about 100 homeowners unanimously rejected the overture by the City of Goleta and opted to remain unincorporated. Our neighborhood has received good support from the Sheriff and County Fire, including during the recent wildfires.

Curmudgeon Sep 09, 2019 10:44 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Also probably the topography in the hills above the area. Think sundowners whipping down the canyons like they did during the Paint Fire of 1990 (popularly called the Painted Cave Fire) when flames moved rapidly and jumped the freeway. A very scary night for all.

a-1569139013 Sep 09, 2019 10:39 AM
Power ShutOffs Only in Noleta?

Other areas that having "a more recent history of big fires" may be a reason. There is much less fuel to burn in areas that have recently burnt.

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