New Housing in Noleta?

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New Housing in Noleta?
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There was a neighborhood meeting on Monday night abut a new 33-unit housing complex in Noleta. 

It will be located near Fire Station 13 on Hollister Ave and San Antonio Road near the Page Youth Center. It's supposed to be 16 units for those mental health disorders and the rest for the homeless. 

The project is listed as the Hollister Lofts Studio Apartments and will be on a 24,700 square foot lot. There will be a total of 22 parking spaces with 27 studios (326 sf each), 5 one-bedrooms (569 sq each), and 1 two-bedroom (810 sq ft). 

The neighborhood meeting was pretty heated but I can't find any more information on the project. Does anyone have more info?

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mp805 Feb 05, 2020 12:10 PM
New Housing in Noleta?

Thanks for the information! First time hearing about this proposal would love to know more about this..."supposed to be 16 units for those mental health disorders and the rest for the homeless."

oops Feb 05, 2020 12:18 PM
New Housing in Noleta?

I suspect there will be a lot of protests from the locals regarding the negative impact to the neighborhood & property values

SBSBSBSBSBsb Feb 05, 2020 05:50 PM
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Why would people protest their property value going up?

a-1580935302 Feb 05, 2020 12:41 PM
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Perfect place and fast response time for any medical emergencies!

giftedinSB Feb 05, 2020 01:04 PM
New Housing in Noleta?

They would have to have a Section 8 voucher already. CA had such a high volume of applications for Section 8 that they had to close the applications and put people on a waiting list. It's been that way for years.

a-1580937311 Feb 05, 2020 01:15 PM
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Hmm, not sure ~600ft away from where hundreds of children are playing outdoors every fall and spring/summer evening and weekend is the best place to put people with mental health disorders.

a-1580940284 Feb 05, 2020 02:04 PM
New Housing in Noleta?

Ah yes, the highly literate would conflate the mentally ill and homeless with paedophilia.

a-1580940911 Feb 05, 2020 02:15 PM
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2:04 - no one said anything about "pedophilia" - just that mentally ill people don't usually mix well with hundreds of screaming little league fans..... don't be so defensive.

a-1580954690 Feb 05, 2020 06:04 PM
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2:15 If you're not talking paedophilia what is the problem with people with mental disorders living near a park frequented by "hundreds of screaming little league fans"? Nothing defensive about this except I don't understand your point. Please enlighten me.

420722 Feb 05, 2020 09:19 PM
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Several other people seem to get the point, based on the upvotes. In my opinion, aren’t all pedos mentally ill in some form or another to even commit such a heinous act? Think about that and then the “oh yeah, duh” starts to kick in.

a-1581001957 Feb 06, 2020 07:12 AM
New Housing in Noleta?

Would that apply to all those, homeowners, apartment dwellers who live near schools? Some of them probably have "mental disorders".

a-1581008801 Feb 06, 2020 09:06 AM
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6:04 - Because I know a few people suffering from mental disorders and loud, shrill sounds don't usually help. Stop obsessing over pedophilia, it's more about setting off potential ticking time bombs.

a-1581009302 Feb 06, 2020 09:15 AM
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7:12 - No, this is different. Having a few people living sporadically near schools with disorders is not the same. 1) This is a concentration of people with mental disorders in ONE location that is within 600 feet of basically a giant playground, and 2) given that they're living on their own or with family in a home or apartment indicates they are being treated and have things under control to some degree. Simple logic here....

a-1580938451 Feb 05, 2020 01:34 PM
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Just reading "more housing" made my heart sink. If I had one wish right this moment it would be that Noleta/Goleta/Santa Barbara would STOP putting in more housing. Leave the little remaining open space as open space.

a-1581008297 Feb 06, 2020 08:58 AM
New Housing in Noleta?

Form many of us to remain in the community we love we need good paying jobs, in order for us to have good paying jobs the businesses need to thrive, in order for businesses to thrive we need more housing. I would fight tooth and nail to preserve the land around this beautiful city and prevent sprawl, but densifying certain areas like Noleta is necessary for the people here to remain and continue to attract talent. More housing is NOT a bad thing. It is absolutely necessary.

Ahchooo Feb 05, 2020 01:49 PM
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If more than 22 residents have cars, where will they park? Well, we do need someplace for the mentally ill and homeless to live, and this seems no worse than other locations. Seems pretty handy to have emergency personnel next door. I wonder how they feel about it.

Get over it Feb 05, 2020 08:06 PM
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Hopefully the mentally Ill, so Ill that they need us to house them, do not drive. Not sure the percentage of each sector, but the homeless should have room to park. Although if you can afford a car, gas, and insurance, why am I pitching in for your housing?

a-1580942688 Feb 05, 2020 02:44 PM
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Well... as long as it's Not In My Backyard I say go for it. Why only 33 units? Let's triple the height and go for a cool 100. In all seriousness though, more of these residences distributed throughout the county (away from downtown and separated from residential neighborhoods) enforcement of strict laws prohibiting camping/sleeping, and one-way bus tickets for the "homeless tourists" is what's needed. Locals will always protest, but we can't keep concentrating this type of housing downtown. The rest of the county needs to share the burden. (this coming from someone that lives near many of the homeless shelters downtown).

a-1580943152 Feb 05, 2020 02:52 PM
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I think that they should build the community outward the Drive-In was, at the end of Kellogg. There is a lot more room there for housing and also even monitored camping areas for homeless. There is a lot that can be done if they pay for security and management of the property. I think it would satisfy the majority of residents.

Get over it Feb 05, 2020 08:14 PM
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If "they pay"? You mean if we pay, right? Wierd "they" don't have to pay to have extra security and management in my community. (DP) That's because we're respectful, hard-working, and care about our neighbors. Not the case with the homeless encampments.

a-1580998221 Feb 06, 2020 06:10 AM
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Yeah if "we pay". I think it would be a great location for approved camping but yes, would need security. Or could build small houses/studios, a lot of units would fit, it's not too far from the bus line, plentu of room to put in amenities, even a clinic and small store... Lots of potential in that spot!

hz Feb 05, 2020 02:57 PM
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excellent bus service along Holliseter for those without cars....

a-1580945257 Feb 05, 2020 03:27 PM
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Not choosing to be Santa Barbara or Goleta, Noleta chose to become the county's easiest dumping ground.

mp805 Feb 05, 2020 03:32 PM
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This looks similar to the Alisos Street Housing Project that was shot down.

a-1581001772 Feb 06, 2020 07:09 AM
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No , it doesn't. These are studio _apartments_; that was communal housing, that is, with a communal kitchen.

a-1580945670 Feb 05, 2020 03:34 PM
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Why not do what we've been doing for those with"mental health disorders" for decades - elect them to office in Sacramento.

CoastWatch Feb 05, 2020 05:31 PM
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I am sure it is a Santa Barbara Housing Authority program- They get Card Blanche on ANY project they are associated with- Be damned with neighbors, neighborhood concerns or density issues.

yacht rocked Feb 05, 2020 05:47 PM
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Housing First policy is doomed to fail. Treatment first, then apartment housing.

a-1581001675 Feb 06, 2020 07:07 AM
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Treatment of those living on the streets is bound to fail; treatment for those housed has a good chance of working. ...If you were living on the streets, would you be taking your meds?

Shasta Guy Feb 05, 2020 09:58 PM
New Housing in Noleta?

22 parking places for 33 units. Where would you park if you wanted to visit a friend there? Will there be off street parking? Is this intentional to force people out of their cars?

Ahchooo Feb 06, 2020 07:36 AM
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I suppose they are counting on the new tenants being poor enough that they can’t afford cars. Grace Village Apartments has a “no vehicle” restriction for their tenants. (I wonder how that’s working.) Maybe this place could do that.

a-1581003694 Feb 06, 2020 07:41 AM
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People have complained about the homeless situation and now there is the start to solving
the problem, and yet people complain about that. The lack of compassion and empathy is very sad.

a-1581004523 Feb 06, 2020 07:55 AM
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The lack of initiative by those who refuse treatment and persist in remaining "homeless", at our continued, expense, is what is sad. Coddling this element, while calling this "compassion" has proven counter-productive. Time for this persistent and service-resistant element to get their own lives together. The resources are already in place. Society has reached out, above and beyond. Next step is to get their own lives together, or get gone.

giftedinSB Feb 06, 2020 08:51 AM
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This does not solve the homeless problem. It will get a few people off the street, but it will only invite other homeless people from other cities. Word will get out, as it always does, and these out-of-towners will continue to flock to Santa Barbara because they know they will get free handouts and free housing.

a-1581028453 Feb 06, 2020 02:34 PM
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7:41: Misusing the billions of dollars the MHSA has already raised for those with mental impairments now living on the streets is sad. Redirect your compassion to making the MHSA accountable. Why did you let our local representatives Jackson and Limon waste this specifically dedicated money?

Luvaduck Feb 06, 2020 09:39 AM
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Reviving institutional care for those whose mental illnesses keep them on the street is a better solution than apartments for a few lucky folks: Almost half of the people on the street need mental health care. Segregating those with mental issues into situations designed for them would help them and make dealing effectively with the rest, variously possible. (The few transient "Knights of the Road" have chosen a time-honored "don't fence me in" life and do fine w/o public assistance. Building 34 units is real-estate-developer welfare and if ever a group doesn't need it, it's them!

a-1581028263 Feb 06, 2020 02:31 PM
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LUVADUCK, state legislators finally started pilot programs in SF, LA and San Diego to lower barriers for the public guardian's office placement of mentally-impaired street people into care institutions. All appropriate due process will be observed, but no longer will the very strict Lanternmann-Perris standards need to be met, which were virtually impossible when it came to taking the mentally-impaired population off the streets. We need to monitor this trial program and then expand it to all communities, so we too can take advantage of the billions of dollars voters already raised to spend specifically for the Mental Health Services Act (MHSA). No one yet has accounted for the billions of dollars the MHSA had already raised over this past decade. Our local state legislators (Limon-Jackson) need to be far more pro-active about this issue. Yet have remained curiously silent. Good campaign issue to raise with the current state assembly candidates - what happened to the billions of MHSA dollars that were intended to get mentally-impaired persons off the streets. How do you intend to spend the next billions of dollars raised by this "tax the rich" MHSA voter proposition.

RHS Feb 06, 2020 10:01 AM
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Why is it so predictable that whenever something is being done for "the least of us" people who claim to be caring and religious find so many rude ways, so many lies to protest the act? Are we not self-aware at all? People, we need to share and care for each other.

a-1581013681 Feb 06, 2020 10:28 AM
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RHS - It is entirely possible to be supportive of housing the mentally ill and homeless, while at the same time disagreeing upon the location that is being chosen to do so. We don't need to just blindly swallow and allow any location just because it's the "caring" thing to do.

RHS Feb 06, 2020 11:29 AM
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10:28 a.m. I agree with your possibility but in fact I have never seen a person write into this sort of discussion and who didn't disagree with a location in their own neighborhood. This is the truth of sarcastic NIMBY label. If not my neighborhood then whose neighborhood? We all should share. (And FYI there are at least two half-way house/residential treatment homes in my own neighborhood--they are fine with me.)

a-1581019758 Feb 06, 2020 12:09 PM
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What do street people share back with us that makes "sharing" a mutually and appealing argument? What is the upper limit to what we already are providing? Until you can answer that, any attempt to scold only, goes nowhere. Homeless Inc is already huge multimillion operation in this area. That is sharing enough. Why are you asking for even more. Why isn't what we have been doing for decades not working. Why has this problem only grown, and not been mitgated. There is no argument to "do more" when what we have already done has failed so badly.

RHS Feb 06, 2020 02:02 PM
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12:09: They share the presence of life and humanity. I suspect you think of more material things to share and don't want to be cheated. I also suspect you think you are regularly cheated by those who have less than you. Such blindness deprives you of much joy and equanimity.

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