Governor Announces New Stay at Home Order Based on Hospitalizations

According to the county website, as of yesterday 57% of ICU beds are being used.

At the county level we'd be good but this order puts us in a region (all of socal!) that would not qualify to remain open

If you want your kids to go to school and play sports, I’m afraid the only way is to send them to a private school. That’s what the governor does. It’s a real shame we don’t provide public education for children anymore, but at least those who have the means to afford it can go with the private school option.

drastic? drastic? I think 240+K dead people is drastic. it would help if people actually did it. You will do anything to put your kids at risk? what will get people back to playing sports and going to school is people following the guidelines between now and when the vaccine is available. selfish people, this is why we are where we are. shut up and follow the rules. For 14 months you didnt, lets give it 1-2 months of actually following it. you might be amazed at what can happen!

Sac, LATimes reports hospital capacity for our County. As of 12/1, "There are now 47 patients admitted to county hospitals with a confirmed case of COVID-19, according to the latest figures from the state. Of those, 14 are in an intensive-care unit.

Officials also closely monitor the number of beds open in intensive-care units. In late July, the state changed its tracking method to exclude beds that are only for infants from the count.

There are currently 47 staffed and available ICU beds in Santa Barbara County according to the latest government data."

So we are less than 1/3 of the way to armageddon.

The conflict between your data and what I posted above is yours includes all patients and mine only includes Covid patients. But yours is a better measure of available capacity.

SB County is currently 57% at capacity of ICU beds....
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/030e625c69a04378b2756de161f82ef6

CHIP: MUS, Cold Spring, Hope school district, Santa Ynez, and Carpinteria schools (all public) are open.

Only 16% are for COVID patients FYI.

Yep, and without constraints that could double in 2-3 weeks, hence the governors order

PIT - simmer down.
"You will do anything to put your kids at risk? " I will do anything to get the numbers down so that it is SAFE for my kids to back to school. Furthermore, the risk of infection at school and in sports is also very low, even now. How many outbreaks have you seen at the multiple schools that are open? How many outbreaks have you heard from all these kids out there traveling to other counties and states to play sports? NONE. Any infections attributed to student athletes in the area were due to gatherings.

"For 14 months you didn't..." - Absolute and utter bull PIT. You have no idea what I and my family have done and how much income we've lost due to this. We wear masks everywhere, avoid even family, cancelled vacations, missed MANY events to abide by the rules and I don't regret doing any of it. It's as if you don't read any of my comments. I have repeatedly chided people here for refusing to stay home or even wear masks. My a%% I haven't followed the rules!

PIT - whoopsiedaisy..... that was meant for PSTARSR, not you :)

PSTARS - that was for you and your ridiculousness.

CHIP - private high schools' sports are also on hold. There are lots of club teams that are traveling out of state/county to play games though. My kids have been lucky enough to do modified "clinic" type practices, but haven't had a competitive game since March. At the high school level they need to keep their skills honed in competition if they're going to have a shot at college level sports. Some kids need the structure and discipline of youth sports and it's a shame to see it so difficult for many to play with all youth leagues other than travel and club teams being cancelled now.

Cottage Hospital has a regular post that they put for the public to see. Google "cottage health covid updates"

a pretty drastic step during the shopping season? do you want to get covid and die? I sure don't. Seems to me, the health and safety of our citizens is far more important than a trinket shop, starbucks, a cold beer at a table 3 feet from a stranger, or some junk purchased on State street. Drastic is 240K people dead from covid and alot of that could have been prevented...just sayin'....

Zero, you got to get this thought out of your head "get covid and die". It is not April 2020 anymore and we KNOW that this isn't nearly as deadly as we originally thought.

This was my reaction as well. At first I thought it was a terrible idea but after thinking it over - guess where everyone in LA/Ventura County is going to go for "normalcy" daytrips? Here. Just like they have been doing. It actually makes sense for us to be lumped in. If we were SLO, I would question it much more.

I went to downtown Ventura a few days ago and didn't stick around for long. 3/4 of people walking around aren't wearing masks. People greeting each other and hugging, wearing masks around their chin or leaving their nose open. It's big brain time down there.

Here's an article in the LA Times from last week recommending people visit Santa Barbara: https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2020-11-23/santa-barbara-train-travel-during-covid I hate everybody

well..we might not have so many free ICU beds when people are flown here from somewhere else where there are no more beds and ventilators available.

Someone is doing this in the UK. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/transformed-by-the-holy-spirit-the-bar-pretending-to-be-a-church-to-beat-covid-rules/ar-BB1byv02

Nice. Then they could be tax-exempt, too. Very good practical solution.

Doctors were sending their patients from Riverside County to LA a few months ago. LA will be sending their patients to SB if they get overwhelmed. We will all be in this together.

The case rate has actually gone down to 12 since last week. While we are feeling the surge, it's still relatively stable (but elevated) in SB. SB has, for the most part, continued to demonstrate that we can weather the storm. I have family that works in Cottage so I know they are nervous but it's still well within their capacity. Also, keep in mind that the hospital system is continuing to conduct elective procedures. The next few weeks will be a huge test for us.

Bosco, not true. Not even close. As of today (12-3-2020), the unadjusted 7-day average case rate for all of SB County is 17.5. It has not been near 12 since November 18. Here are the SB County unadjusted 7-day average case rates for the past 7 days (beginning 11-27 and ending 12-3): 16.1, 17.7, 16.8, 16.7, 14.6, 16.1, 17.5.

I'm with you Chem, at this point any significant mandates/restrictions need to have solid, rational, and publicly disclosed evidence to back it up. We can not control this virus, these restrictions just give those that need it the illusion of control, yet will force more people to gather in homes/underground which is where most of the spread is occurring. They also ignore the non-covid health/wellness consequences, which the LA judge recently ruled needs to be weighed before deciding to close outdoor dining. Chem, check out the graph below, multiple states, multiple responses/restrictions/masks, same path.
https://twitter.com/OBusybody/status/1332810306062606340 I think we're probably hitting our peak soon, regardless of restrictions.

Voice, the virus is spreading because people keep having get-togethers or full blown parties in their own homes, and this order will not prevent that. Furthermore, most law enforcement will not be bothered with complaints from neighbors about people over at someone's house unless it's egregious, like those LA AirBnB mansion parties. All this is doing is harming businesses, which is not where the virus is spreading.

There was this snippet in yesterday's Noozhawk article "The Public Health Department included a disclaimer on its website saying there’s a delay in receiving test results in the county.

“Quest Diagnostics, one of the labs where COVID-19 tests are processed, has reported a backlog of test results,” the website stated. “There is no estimate at this time of when the backlog will be resolved.” Would this be another skew in our numbers - if we are suddenly getting cases that were from actually last week or longer? When was it that there was a 'glitch' that added an additional... like, 150+ cases overnight, but they were from a month or so previous? Was that in July?

100% agree Chem. If these steps actually addressed the problem I would feel very differently. But it’s like they’re punitive measures and that’s causing us to turn on each other. If we had real leaders, they would have pulled us together but they’re to busy playing the long game of politics to adequately address the here and now

I concur!
I did the same.
The people from Los Angeles should go right back to where they came from.

Just curious. What is your suggestion? Herd immunity? We have to try something when what we are doing isn't working and people still are dying. I think some people are lulled into a false sense of security because SB City hasn't been hit very hard yet. Sort of like the Dakotas, Montana, and the rest of the middle of the country. They thought they were exempt, but they're not, and neither are we. We need to do all we can to flatten the curve long enough for vaccines to make a difference. No sense railing against a virus, just deny it a place to feed.

Nobody is "forced" to gather in groups at homes. It's a choice, and demonstrative of a sort of lack of self control. No sense blaming others, it's each person's choice whether or not to comply. One would hope that the health of the community or at least one's own family would be sufficient to get compliance, but it does not. That is on those who do not comply, but affects us all.

Sb Barbarian: "We have to try something when what we are doing isn't working and people still are dying." yet your supporting the doubling down of what isn't working?

"We can not control this virus, these restrictions just give those that need it the illusion of control, yet will force more people to gather in homes/underground which is where most of the spread is occurring."

We can control this virus, and plenty of other countries have.

Previous lockdowns HAVE worked, especially the "essential services only" ones. I wish it wasn't required, but apparently, people are stupid. (I agree that spread is coming from home gatherings and parties and offices...we've heard that ad nauseum.) Sigh. In any event, I made sure to pick up my wine shipment yesterday before the winery has to close from now until Christmas.

Hi MountainMan, did you see today's numbers? 77 total test reported today, with 72 positives and 5 pending (Note: SBCPHD reports 75 positives). I wonder if these are the Quest results? It's a strange dump of data, since the average number of reported tests/day has been 1300+ for the past 7 days.

Doesn't matter, travel ban is unenforceable, think of the logistics! What are you going to do, set up a checkpoint at EVERY offramp and make people convince a random officer that they can be here. Nope, not gonna happen. Unless restaurants and other establishments are closed, LA will absolutely travel northward.

Well restaurants will be closed for even outdoor dining and hotel stays must be essential only so I suspect it's up to the hotels to enforce. I have a friend who works for a hotel and plan to ask him what they plan to do as I'm curious if they will enforce it.

Agree!
LA—- go home!
And San Diego
And the Midwest
And everyone who isn’t from here.
Get on!

ANDREA, this does nothing about the real issue, which is the literal thousands of day trippers from LA.

@10:43 as long as your not gathering privately indoors with the day trippers from LA, which is where all the spread is occurring, you'll be just fine.

@ 2:22 : It's nice to know you've identified the source of <all> the spread. But then, you aren't interested in accuracy, just polemics. And that should be "you're", not "your".

Did you read the announcement? Nothing is shut down yet. We haven't hit the criteria.

State health officials are expecting this region to hit the ICU threshold this week prompting a lockdown.

Public Health announced they expect shut down in 48 hours.