Goleta Now Requires Face Coverings at Essential Businesses

Why do you want to punish those poor librarians? They weren't trained to be social workers, but that is mostly what they do for the homeless population. Hard to enforce social distancing with that population. My sister is a children's librarian and is doing remote storytelling. She's 65 and shouldn't be in a library around at-risk people.

Overdevelopment and traffic don't attract me. I try to avoid Goleta as much as I can.

Hard to enforce laws against stupidity.

Had the same experience; will not return.

Since it can be just a bandana, finding <any> piece of cloth is not an issue: Make one if you lack one.

And you somehow survived and are here to tell about it.

Have you never been sprayed by someone coughing and either not covering their mouth or doing that sideways shoot-the-spray thing? I sure have. The hygenically-limited walk among us.

Actually, it is based on science. If you care to read, the following article says that homemade masks are not preferable to surgical/N95 masks, but better than nothing and can actually filter quite a bit more than you're suggesting. They tested and provided the filtration efficiency for a wide range of materials. Davies et al. "Testing the efficacy of homemade masks: would they protect in an influenza pandemic?" Disaster Med Public Health Prep., 2013 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24229526/)

I get that the regulation is imprecise, and that may benefit the litigious. The point remains: some reasonable covering is better than none. I’m sure The Authorities have no interest in examining people’s masks to see how many layers they are or what is the fiber content. The point is to cover your mouth and nose with something that will reduce the spray some amount. With the vagueness in the regulation everybody can find something to achieve the desired result. Perhaps there will come a time when we are required to wear regulation issue face coverings. Would that please the sticklers?

Ahchoo, I think that your statement just proved the posters point . "I’ve seen studies showing how a simple two-layer cotton mask significantly reduces the spread of mist from the mouth". No where in the resolution does it state two layers. By the regulation " Face coverings include ANY fabric coverings.........". Is one layer OK or not and what material passes YOUR test? The definition of "Any thinking adult..." does not pass the smell test. If you can not define it, it becomes subjective, and regulations can NOT be subjective but the enforcement of said regulations can.

Maybe they should have written the resolution better, but thinking adults can figure out that they don’t mean “an old pair of nylons.” I’ve seen studies showing how a simple two-layer cotton mask significantly reduces the spread of mist from the mouth. Any thinking adult can understand the concept. It’s kinda like in the old days when people sneezed into handkerchiefs. Obviously that’s better for public health than an open sneeze. Don’t you have anything better to object about? Wear the mask in public to keep your mouth moisture from spreading around. It’s not a communist plot.

THEGOODGOODLAND - Thanks! It's sad to see though that the very same people who are saying we need to work and help small business are disagreeing with your post! Go back to work, but not if that work is consistent with what we are mad about! Freakin' snowflakes!

There was a recent poll. I know, because I filled it out on line. It was very professionally done. It gave several options, including .25%,. It's been a while. Interesting they are doing another poll.

12:48 — Also key in you comment are the words “NOT VENTURING MUCH OUTSIDE”, which means they still could have come in contact with others who had COVID-19.

12:48 — Can anyone PROVE that the people who caught it, stayed at home. And/or that EVERYONE in the household stayed home the WHOLE TIME. And, did they get deliveries from others, for food and/or other necessities?

No, clearly not all of the family members were staying home. Speaking of Cuomo, look at Andrew's brother Chis. Chris claimed to have COVID-19 and swore he was quarantining himself, but then he gets caught outside on more than one occasion, even bragging about telling off some guy in the street who lectured him for being outside during the quarantine. Then both his wife and kid catch COVID-19 from him because of his flexible definition of quarantine. I imagine those 66% lied during the intake interview and swore they were being good and staying home. Bet they had nice tan lines too.

But we’re all family members staying home?

@ Sacjon a 1/2 second google search found it :https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

SAM - what "Actual piece of data" are you talking about? I don't see a cite, nor do I see any response (other than 2 dvs) to my request for a cite. Do you have a cite? I'd actually love to see it!

12:48 - do you have a cite for this info? I've been wondering this for weeks. Are we doing all this and still getting sick? If so, I think it would be very important to know, for sure, not just because someone said it on the internet.

Another actual piece of data showing the blanket stay-at-home order was unnecessary.

it's actually quite hard if you have any sort of health condition which is exacerbated by a restricted airflow/oxygen supply.

CHIP - do you cry and moan this much every time the government forces you to stop at a stop sign? Drive your car on the street, as opposed to the sidewalk? Wear pants in public? Refrain from shooting heroin at playgrounds? Yeah, we are so oppressed. All these crying, gun carrying snowflakes afraid to look "submissive" by wearing masks.... you people crack me up.

CHIP OF SB — as I said to SACJON — Nurses wear masks for two reasons. To protect themselves from a disease the patient has, and/or to protect the patient from a disease that the nurse may have, and doesn’t necessarily know he/she has. You could have the virus, be asymptotic, and spread the disease to others without the use of a mask. And, why does everyone think that nurses in hospitals are wearing masks and other protective gear when treating COVID-19 patients, and others with transmissible diseases. Without the mask, the rest of the protective gear is close to useless in most diseases.

Chip nails it!

Ugh, people like you CHIP are making this site (and this recovery process) so incredibly unenjoyable these days. You are plain wrong, you refute FACTS, and flaunt idiotic, dangerous theories. No COVID comment thread on this site is worth reading anymore. Would be cool if we had COVID-specific thread rules, how about "provide scientific evidence from major universities and institutions if you have a difference of opinion" - you'd never be able to make a post again.

Oh grow up, if you want the right to spread your germs/viruses wherever you go you should expect folks to use their right to refuse to serve you or to adamantly and forcefully keep you away from them.