COVID-19 Cases Trend Down But Still Too High Says Public Health

Sac - I actually have to agree with VOR here. I just got back from a work trip to Florida, and if Florida is even remotely statistically close to California then they are doing much better than California! Schools stayed open, restaurants stayed open, nearly everything stayed open... and everything that did close, opened up pretty quick (theme parks, bars, Indoor dining, etc). Kids sports are going strong. Factor in Florida’s older population and the fact that they’ve administered more per capita vaccines than California and I’d say Florida is doing much MUCH better than us.

Florida Republican Cancel Culture is doing a much better job of firing and raiding the homes of data scientists who report the true infection rates so they can look better than they really are. I mean, what are they scared of?

5:47 - VOR is a honey badger, he don't care!

You'd think VOR would be somewhat embarrassed by being proved wrong every time he makes an unfounded assertion about the pandemic, and maybe look at real data once in a while.

Median Age
FL = 42.4
CA= 37
USA= 38.5
https://www.statista.com/statistics/208048/median-age-of-population-in-the-usa-by-state/

VOR - I asked a simple question, no need to be insulting. Show me the numbers, saying they're doing better per capita, doesn't mean squat. Prove it.

Sac, you've shown time and time again you don't know what per captia means. As I've explained before, putting the initial outbreak aside (March-May) FL has done better on a per capita basis. Remember they also have a much much older population than us. Over the past 6 months they have done significantly better than our metrics, per capita, all WITHIOUT closing schools and destroying small businesses. Even if CA's were marginally better it came at a steep price paid for not only economically but with real life health and wellness consequences that aren't reflected in the cases or deaths/100K and will be with us long after covid has passed.

VOR - How do you figure FL is doing that much better than CA? Florida's population is almost HALF (21m in FL, 39m in CA) of California's, yet the overall numbers are pretty close, if not the same proportionally. FL overall cases - 1.7 million, CA is 3.3 million. So, just looking at that, based on overall population, FL is doing just as bad/good as CA. What are you looking at to posit that FL is doing so much better compared to CA?

@Voice, COVID-19 death rate per 100k population as of 2/3/21:

California: 105
Population: 39.5 million

Florida: 125
Population: 21.5 million

Well whatever FL is doing, from covid response to vaccine, they're doing a better job of it than CA.

LAKERGIRL - would less restrictions have prevented their deaths? How would "leaders" you like have prevented these deaths? I'm genuinely curious.

CVS and Walgreen's, depending on the county:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-15/covid-19-vaccine-slow-reach-california-nursing-home-residents

Because CVS Health, contracted by the trumpers to vaccinate congregate facilities, was getting nowhere. Don't palter.

LIE!

"To serve that need, the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department is vaccinating staff and some residents from those facilities at its own community vaccine clinics, and it plans to establish a mobile unit to bring vaccines directly to facilities...At least two skilled-nursing facilities were vaccinated by local hospitals and the Public Health Department instead of the federal pharmacy program."

https://www.noozhawk.com/article/covid_vaccinations_slow_start_skilled_nursing_assisted_living_santa_barbara

Talk to CVS Health. They were in charge of congrgate facility vaccinations in SB.

I don't care if it's only 40 doses. We lost 42 people from our local congregate living facilities since January 9th alone, well after the start of the vaccine rollout. I have no problem giving people in US custody the vaccine at some point, it's just that they should not be getting it before our most vulnerable, who continue to die on nearly a daily basis.

We're really going to need those 40 doses from GITMO.
What a crock. Just an excuse to be an enraged con.

Agree, it really is a SHAME people continue to voice these absurd discriminatory beliefs.

Maybe he listens to Liz:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/02/scicheck-video-wrong-about-fauci-covid-19/

Like others here, he sees only what he wants to see, filtered through his politics.

VOR - Yeah, so what? He's opened an overflow facility to make more room so they're not crammed in existing ones. He literally just this morning re-instated "Catch and Release," meaning NO MORE separations and deportations of parents. Of course they still need facilities for those they house temporarily, but unlike you say below, he is NOT putting kids in cages the way Trump did. That's like saying Democrat efforts to improve housing in prisons means they'll be arrested more people. Gads, is as if you don't understand English words.

Here you go Sac. Same things happened during Obama , happened during Trump, and is now happening under Biden. I guess it’s only bad when orange man bad does it. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/migrant-children-facility-immigration/index.html

VOR - Any luck with that "proof" of Biden planning to put kids in cages? Here's some news from today saying, again, that you're 100%, certifiably WRONG: https://www.kxan.com/news/catch-and-release-resumes-in-south-texas-mayor-says-biden-order-reinstates-policy/

PITMIX, you apparently commented without reading the entire thread, where yesterday I wrote: "I have no problem giving people in US custody the vaccine at some point, it's just that they should not be getting it before our most vulnerable, who continue to die on nearly a daily basis."

VOR - Where do you see that Biden will resume separating kids? On the contrary..... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55913215

VOR - when did Trump announce that illegal immigrants would receive vaccinations? I can't find that anywhere.

Trump did too, but you left that out.

Illegals spread virus too and require hospitalization. It doesn't matter who gets the vaccine first, just get it out to as many people as fast as possible. Israel just vaccinated 55% of it's population (mostly thanks to a centralized healthcare system) and are starting to see the results.

@Voice, the Biden administration also created a task-force to find the parents/families of these immigrant children to reunite them. But you conveniently left that out.

The Biden admin also reopened the overflow facility for migrant children, you know the ones that put kids in cages (and originally built during Obama admin). I guess kids in cages goes back to being okay now that we have a "good guy" in office.

CSF, if you are going to hold people illegally as enemy combatants without declaring an actual war, then you have some responsibility to ensure their health while you have them in detention. And if you are going to torture them as a matter of state policy, making it impossible to actually try them in a court of law, then you have lost your moral compass. Repubs are such wimps, afraid to bring those big bad bogeymen back to the states to hold them in detention in our supermax prisons. This is why we don't vote for Repubs in CA.

If it quacks like a duck...

Chillin, First, I'm not a Republican/conservative. Nice try though.

Second, did you read the full Politco article or just stop after the headline? For those interested in the truth, the Trump administration initiated the rollout of the vaccine for GITMO, specifically for "health care workers and their support staff, followed by those with critical national security jobs, and then the workforce over 65 years of age or with prior medical conditions." (1)

The article continues by noting, "Due to its unique population, Guantanamo Bay moved through the phases of the rollout “at a faster clip than others,” Kirby told reporters Tuesday...Last Wednesday, Terry Adirim, principal deputy assistant secretary of defense for health affairs, officially approved the facility to move to the third phase of vaccinations — the category the detainees fall into, Kirby told POLITICO." (1)

So Terry Adirim made the decision. Was Adirim part of the Trump administration? NOPE! Adirim is part of the Biden's new administration and was just sworn into his deputy assistant secretary of defense for health affairs on January 20, 2021. (2)

(1) https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/02/pentagon-trump-guantanamo-vaccinations-465342

(2) https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2477672/new-officials-sworn-in-at-the-department-of-defense/

CHemicalSuperfreak: The Pentagon clarified today that the decision to vaccinate Al Qaeda and Taliban members in Gitmo before US citizens was made as part of the initial Trump vaccine rollout plan. I guess it's all good to save terrorists if Commander Cheeto does it? The plan was probably drawn in crayon on an Olive Garden kids menu and left crumpled in the Resolute desk.

In other conservative news, on Monday SleepyJoe also announced that Area 51 aliens and the ghost of Elvis were getting vaccinated first.

Additionally they will not arrest illegal immigrants at any vaccination sites and will provide equal access for all. The DHS statement is here: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2021/02/01/dhs-statement-equal-access-covid-19-vaccines-and-vaccine-distribution-sites

@Shame, you are incorrect. The Biden administration said illegal immigrants and ANYONE residing in the US should be able to get the vaccine, not that they will have a priority. Nowhere did they say there would be special sites. Please stop with the false statements.

Could be worse. They were almost about to give priority vaccinations to terrorists in GITMO, ahead of our most vulnerable citizens. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/01/30/vaccine-plan-for-gitmo-paused-after-outrage-from-republicans/)