Bars to Close Immediately, Restaurants for Takeout Only

I will show up and video them and post it online and shame them and destroy their reputations forever.

The internet never forgives and the internet never forgets.

The wording is "should" and is not legally enforceable, the police will not be enforcing this. Since these entities clearly do not care about the raw facts and recommendations from agencies that know better, public shaming goes a long way, for both businesses and individuals. TELL the businesses that are open and ignoring distancing recommendations how you feel. TELL the people in your lives who choose to dine out and attend other gatherings how disappointed and ashamed you are in them. Put your money where your mouth is: if you are ordering takeout, REFUSE to order from restaurants who have not closed their doors to dine-in customers - and tell them that!

there is no mandate (yet) didnt you read the article? "should" is a strong suggestion. But if it became reality as a mandate.. they hold the authority and can revoke their permit to operate., which maybe not shut them down now, but will prevent them from ever opening

^^ this is some seriously red-coat commie stuff here.
"bad actors" indeed... but it ain't the people trying to make a living.

the sheer volume of people "being let go" from the service industry will lead to riots that will be far more damaging than this "virus" is showing itself to be.

my comment was in reply to Alexblue below.... edhat fail ;p

"Red coat commie stuff", get over yourself. I own my own business. My income just went to zero because my clients need to be able to travel and now can't so all work is frozen. Guess what, the longer selfish and greedy people stay open, the longer they will spread the disease because they can't understand that doing so will extend the trajectory of this entire event and its economic impact on everyone--me, you, and them. We all get to take a hit, and if people do the right thing, then it will all be over a lot sooner. This is a small town. If people want to destroy their long term reputations for short term gain, then I not only have little sympathy for them, but I will be working to accelerate the destruction of their reputations by honesty reporting on their actions. I don't have any work, so I will have a lot of time to do this.

The redcoats were British soldiers, who were not communists. This is a time when credibility is very important. People who talk about "red-coat commie" and "special spray" have none, and should be dismissed and ignored.

ALEX BLUE as from prior comments I know you are what I call a "leftie" but I have to say I 100% agree with you on this. People are so short sighted these days and have no ability to deal with things. If we deal with this NOW by sacrificing a little bit NOW we will prevent more pain LATER. Please understand this people. Why is the Farmer's Market even open today!!!

if you think your shame game is going to make this "event" go one second faster..... oh boy..

the long haul is happening no matter what. how could they possibly let everything go back to normal unless they tested everyone. which they're nowhere near being able to do.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/17/21181694/coronavirus-covid-19-lockdowns-end-how-long-months-years?ICID=ref_fark

why do you think COVID is worth shutting down society over?
is everyone suddenly no longer able to handle the mortality of earth?
TB still exists, are we going to crash the whole system until that is cured as well?

divide the death rate by 10, cause it's already everywhere ;)
https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/

Thank you ! I'll video the two by my house. One will probably close but highly suspicious the other one won't. The owner is a bad actor.

Okay, Xantus, I get it. You are a do nothing, help no one, it's all about me type of person.

And yet you want to bitch and moan online about other people stepping up.

Some self reflection would be good for you. Why so selfish?

Edhat should is a mandate. City Council is putting together a detailed ordinance that closes bars and sit down restaurants and others types of businesses.

4:39, I'm sure you'd think I'm left wing. I believe strongly in individual responsibility which includes thinking as much about others as you do about yourself and stepping up to be a responsible member of the community when people are at risk.

I consider those to be core left wing beliefs...maybe you're more left wing than you realize :)

i'm merely making an observation that.. in this current climate of the world.. one where the media has been full on hyping everything that happens for the last many years... where social polarization has been pushed so hard and so constantly... where multiculturalism has all these people pretending to be nice to eachother..... that when a "SHTF" situation happens... there WILL be completely divergent responses, simply because a great many people don't trust the media or the govt anymore (and no thats not just "trump voters")

so it's a pipe dream to think there will be anything even approaching 100% compliance with overarching societal values.
but you can think you're scoring points by shaming people who don't think like you've been told to.

I just called them 20 minutes ago. They told me required has to come from an order from the Govenor. We need to skate to where the puck is going !!!!

Did anyone view the State Order? ---- https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/COVID-19/Coronavirus%20Disease%202019%20and%20Food%20Beverage%20Other%20Services%20-%20AOL.pdf

Of course that's not to minimize the hardships people are going through now. But I do like the notion that the short term and long term goals are kinda one and the same.

Infuriating !!! Our cases doubled from 1 to 2 with 96 test results pending. This town needs to wake up. Go to where the hockey puck is going. Come on. I'm talking to the ones who jammed the markets today. It will be here and we will feel it.

our cases? the one in santa maria? one in orcutt? one in ventura?

https://www.noozhawk.com/article/santa_barbara_not_candidate_for_shelter_in_place_says_medical_official

zero people with symptoms severe enough to be hospitalized have shown up at cottage.

but sure keep thinking it's a "pandemic"

meanwhile the most common conversation i've overheard in the last two days in my rounds through town is "i've lost my job and I dont know what i'm going to do"

Xantus here is a prime example of ignorance of the dynamics of epidemics when the pathogen is contagious before symptoms are present.

They should apply for unemployment. The waiting time has been eliminated.

Xantus, wow, you really should educate yourself. Yes, pandemics start out small--and they spread over time if you can't or don't quarantine infected people. How do you not understand that we are at the start of this and that it doesn't progress in a level fashion, it either skyrockets or gets flattened out by people taking the appropriate actions. Look at the graphs comparing infection rates in Singapore and Iran and maybe you will understand a little bit better how this works. If we stick our heads in the sand, like you are doing, then the infection rate blasts off and instead of a four month shutdown, it will go on a lot longer and you and your friends will be homeless in a year. No kidding, that's the kind of scenario that the experts are predicting. That's my last comment for you--good luck.

That would be a 12 hour round trip. Hardly any traffic, and there was snow on all the high ridges from Santa Ynez to San Jose.

Tj's Goleta long line yesterday morning at 10 am, same deal, one at a time. I kept going, no need to stand in a line for now.,

I saw that group too. Who are we suppose to call?

Please don't quote Trump.

Yesterday he said he predicted pandemic all along. Total liar.
:-(

It’s great as long as there are no workers with the virus and no symptoms in the kitchen.....

I would be more concerned with the packaging than the food ... this is not a stomach bug.

Me too JQB. On a related note, the CDC released this today ..... https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/new-coronavirus-stable-hours-surfaces ..... Detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. Might be good idea to quarantine all packages before bringing them into house or kitchen.

Yesterday I set up a package decontamination station in my back yard. First large CVS order to be processed today . What a hassle !

please tell me they were all from one family? I had to explain to my 7 yo as we went to the park to play 2 square that "no, you cannot play on the playground with your friend from school who happens to be there".

They were a group of unrelated young people in the 20s.

Says the guy that drove to SF and Santa Clara yesterday. You’re hilarious.