Ravens in the Rain

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Ravens in the Rain
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By Beverly C.

Every Autumn the Ravens flock to a roost over by the cliffs soon after sunset and return to this tree and others nearby at daybreak before dispursing.  A flock of Ravens is called an unkindness and why, I do not know.  But I look forward to this time of the year as it is the only time our resident pair of Ravens will allow others to trespass on their territory.  And yes, these are Ravens and not crows and yes, our first substantial rainfall and containment of the fire.

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SoapBox Oct 27, 2021 07:28 PM
Ravens in the Rain

Zerohawk - "Please allow me to correct you..."
Pitmix - "Why are you all hatin' on the defenseless ravens?"
Nostrachumash - "They are all our ancestors"
Byzantine - "Whatever that are, they do not belong here"
Getoffmylawn - "I'm with Byz"
Ginger1 - "I demand an explanation"
Voiceofreason - "Freeloaders"
...

dw2000 Oct 27, 2021 09:40 AM
Ravens in the Rain

I find it amazing how smart crows and ravens are. I recently saw a video where a crow bent a piece of wire on one end to create a hook in order to better access food.

pj42 Oct 27, 2021 09:30 AM
Ravens in the Rain

Definitely not ravens. Just one of the many, many groups of crows that have grown in the size of their flocks over the years here in SB, driving out many of the smaller native birds.

a-1635348487 Oct 27, 2021 08:28 AM
Ravens in the Rain

When I lived in Palmdale for over 20 years I saw a lot of Ravens. Occasionally hundreds of them would congregate in a field near my home. We called it a Raven Convention. As others have mentioned, they're much larger than crows and their calls are very different. They also use very different calls when communicating with each other too. Another interesting thing about Ravens, in addition to their intelligence and vocalization, is that like crows they mate for life (unless the mate is killed). Since I've lived in Santa Barbara for the past 20+ years I've never seen a Raven, only crows.

mtndriver Oct 27, 2021 08:21 AM
Ravens in the Rain

Crows for sure. Ravens don’t gather in that way, and we are very unlikely to see a raven on the south coast. On the other side of the mountains, but not on the coast side in our county.

a-1635338096 Oct 27, 2021 05:34 AM
Ravens in the Rain

They're here in the Islay / Laguna area often, year round it seems.

John Wiley Oct 26, 2021 11:22 PM
Ravens in the Rain

We saw ravens in an Anchorage zoo, and they were SO much more interesting than even our large crows. They just emanated intelligence, with a language far more complex and subtle. In the Riverside area are smaller crows than the murders we see around here, maybe a desert species. Out on San Miguel Island the crows seemed larger and smarter than our city gang, but still seemed to lack the spade-shaped tail said to define a raven. Maybe a UCSB ornithologist will weigh in and give us some details. Anyway, thanks for a great pic Beverly. Reminds me some of a painting by Judy Powell (prior Adult Ed schedule wizard), who did the crows in deep black that showed them as portals to another realm.

Lucky 777 Oct 26, 2021 09:59 PM
Ravens in the Rain

Definitely crows, who love to pick a tree and roost there together. A magnificent sight in the Milpas street trees across from Trader Joe's at sunset when dozens of them return to their special tree and argue about who sleeps on which branch.

two abbys Oct 26, 2021 08:29 PM
Ravens in the Rain

Crows. Ravens are rare in heavily urbanized areas, and they are usually seen solitary or in pairs. My favorite raven sighting was in the Carrizo Plain where one did a barrel roll and then flew upside down briefly. It was an awesome things to see.

ZeroHawk Oct 27, 2021 09:25 AM
Ravens in the Rain

Two Abbys, exactly! they are crows in the photos. I KNOW ravens very well. they also make a different sound than crows and are much larger. noticeably larger

NostraChumash Oct 26, 2021 06:06 PM
Ravens in the Rain

They used to be called a
"Quoth of Ravens" , but alas...

NostraChumash Oct 27, 2021 09:22 AM
Ravens in the Rain

Bicyclist..
Sorry to send you on a wild Raven chase, but it was my own play on Poe..
The response was supposed to be a cute.."Alas.. But Nevermore".

bicyclist Oct 26, 2021 07:08 PM
Ravens in the Rain

Thanks Nos... Made me look it up?
https://birdfact.com/articles/why-is-a-group-of-ravens-called-an-unkindness
vs:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/humor/rightauk.html
or the "Nevermore of ravens":
http://scorellis.com/?p=474
so the difference is bill & tail shape (raven vs crow):
http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/facts/crow_vs_raven.html
...at least that's the best I could figure...

Notthatbad Oct 26, 2021 05:35 PM
Ravens in the Rain

Beverly,

Thanks for this. Beautiful birds. I’ve been watching for years. Always wondered where they were headed.

Minibeast Oct 26, 2021 04:59 PM
Ravens in the Rain

1 . . . 2 . . . 3 . . . Counting crows.

ZeroHawk Oct 26, 2021 03:00 PM
Ravens in the Rain

HI Beverly, how are you certain these are ravens? they appear to be crows by their size and smaller bill. Ravens are much larger, about the size of a redtail hawk, these guys looks like crows which are roughly the size of a very large pigeon. Ravens also have larger bills.

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