One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

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By Brandon Priest

Hello to the 70 - 80% of Goleta Union School District (GUSD) families that want in-person classes to open.

GUSD continues to fail our children both educationally and socially.  They have continued to ignore the CDC's recommendation to open schools. I encourage you to PLEASE read:  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html .  

GUSD didn’t even bother to apply for a waiver while 30 other schools in our district jumped on the chance. Why not at least try? This signifies pure negligence from our administrators. 

GUSD’s “robust” distant learning program is abysmal at best. Less than 2 hours of instructions by a teacher and the rest of the day is scheduled for “independent studies”.  Good luck getting our younger children to work independently.

My child's teacher told her entire Zoom class that "GUSD has no intentions of opening until January at the earliest."  Regardless of what the CDC recommends or what science is telling us?  We just moved into the RED Tier which allows schools to open in 14 days under some modified conditions.  Our administrators said they have been working on in-person modifications since March.  Are they going to open Oct 13th?  According to one teacher, NO WAY.

My child is a good student, above average on every assessment test since kindergarten, actively participates in class, received achievement awards every year and never missed a day of school or been late.  Now, according to her schools "assessment data", under their "ROBUST" online teaching program she has fallen below the 28th percentile in math and 16th percentile for reading.  I will gladly take some responsibility for this drop as I try to work full time from home and teach during "independent work" time.  But, as I'm not a teacher and I am working, I can only do so much of THEIR job.  

In the meantime, they rearranged her daily schedule (ZOOM class time), without any notice and without consulting me first, to accommodate their time slotted groupings for underachieving students. smh!  Just because I work remotely doesn't mean I can change my schedule on the drop of a dime. 

GUSD refuses to listen to their student families so our voices need to be louder. Make a difference and be collectively heard by boycotting Zoom for one day on Monday 10/5. Spend the day with your kids teaching or doing fun activities or going outside getting some fresh air and exercise. 

Thank you for your time.

P.S. One of the reasons I like EdHat is that it allows comments/public discussion. Please voice your thoughts. I'm sure there is a lot more to add to this OP-ED.


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a-1602548900 Oct 12, 2020 05:28 PM
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ANNPS - I can't sit here and not say anything. I have more than one teacher in my immediate family here in SB/Goleta and I can tell you from first hand experience, they are NOT all working all summer, with no free time, or over 60 hours a week now, as you keep saying. That's simply not true. Not only do I know this from those in my family, I have multiple friends and acquaintances here in the area that are also elementary and secondary teachers. NONE of them are working the hours you continuously say they are, it's not true. Yes, they do work hard and I admire and respect them, but please stop making it sound like they've all been working around the clock for little (no overtime) to no (working during summer) compensation. It's false. I've spent a lot of time with them since COVID hit and talked a lot about this.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 05:42 PM
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Well... the CDC. Dr Fauci. Every single expert! They all agree that when the numbers allow it, school HAS TO RESUME. And how do I think it’s going to work... well... A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN ONLINE!!!! The teachers union is actively working against the common good. The schools are paid no matter if 10 kids show up... 300 kids... or no kids. There is no incentive to make school happen... let alone make it happen. ANNPS can live her fairy tale world where teachers work 60 hours per week pls weekends and all summer and zoom school is magical and great. It’s completely insane unscientific untrue and just straight bizarre... but it’s the reality she’s chosen. Hard to argue/reason with that...

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 05:58 PM
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I re-read this post and honestly it’s just perfect... I mean that’s fantastic humor! There is no way Orwell could have ever dreamt of someone writing (and seemingly believing!) this:

“With the Zoom model, students can interact with a variety of students, they can see each other smile and laugh”

Just an incredible post. Does EDHAT have a hall of fame because this needs to be preserved for posterity!

Annps Oct 13, 2020 10:45 PM
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Yes, it is true. I too am very close with a whole lot of teachers, and yes, they were working with their grade-level teams throughout the summer with no compensation, and yes, they are easily working 60 hours per week. I can't speak for the people you surround yourself with, and maybe they aren't opening themselves up to you, but with about 5 hours of face-to-face work, plus all of the asynchronous lessons and assignments to develop, create, and review, where do you think they get the time. On top of it, the teachers I know in the GUSD are creating thoughtful work to send home along with "kits" of materials for their students, all of which aligns with their online lessons. They could just have the students do the work entirely online, but instead they are making it as hands-on as possible. I know first-hand that this takes copious hours to put together because I have supported a few of my teacher-friends by putting together kits for them at my house.

SBseashell Oct 02, 2020 04:23 PM
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I applaud your bravery. Many will suffer in silence due to fear of offending their children's teachers. I have attempted to engage the School Board , PTO, and my principal to no avail. The lack of an elementary waiver application due to cost and size were just excuses as there was NO effort to engage the parents nor community, but instead the 2/3 teacher lack of support that drove this decision. This would have allowed the elementary schools, with our young and early learners whom need in person interaction, to get back into the classroom and off their iPads. SBUSD Board members have ASSURED all of us, like the good politicians they are, that they will follow State and Local Public Health Guidelines and get kids back in school. Both CA and SBPHD says this is 100% allowed October 13th with NO need to shut down schools for higher community tiers unless there are SPECIFIC criteria met at schools. There are NO REQUIREMENTs from SBPHD/CAPHD for PCR Covid testing of teachers outside an elementary waiver. SBUSD has received over $10million in CARES Act funding and invested millions in PPE for teachers. SBUSD/GUSD were very quick to follow CA orders to go remote but are NOT following recommendations to get back into the schools! Find a way to WORK TOGETHER instead of MAKING EXCUSES. Get our kids back into school. If some teachers are scared, educate them or let them take a leave of absence or pair them with those families requesting on-going remote learning. The long term repercussions of this will be felt by ALL in society for YEARS to come and every single day beyond October 13th our children are not IN CLASS is on the School Board and our Governor (whom should make a similar ORDER to get kids BACK into classrooms if necessary). This IDENTICAL fight is happening all over California public schools. Vote your School Board Members and Governor OUT. Send a clear message.

bpriest Oct 04, 2020 05:39 PM
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Hello GUSD AND SBUSD families. Please join me in boycotting Zoom tomorrow. Our children need to be back in school and receive the education they deserve. Let our administrators know that we are tired of them sitting on their hands and taking the easy route.
Thank you to all that have contributed to this post.
Brandon Priest

Annps Oct 08, 2020 08:58 PM
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Brandon Priest, 1) I am wondering how, if you are juggling your own job and "teaching" your child, you had time to listen (and watch) a 30 minute Zoom lesson. Please explain. Along those lines, there are a lot of ways a survey such as the one you described could be used academically. I wouldn't think a credential would be needed to recognize this.
2) I read the 2 1/2 month old article you cited, and A) yes, we all know the benefits of an in-person education (no one is denying this, so...?) B) The "safety" you referred to is one of the benefits of synchronous (Zoom, etc. face-to-face) learning, as apposed to the asynchronous learning families can sign up for when other students return to the classrooms (did you think of this? Clearly not.) C) The "nutrition" that it addresses is being covered by districts. Many districts have extended the age for those receiving free food, making it even more impactful. D) As for "socialization," are you aware that in-person education will be at arms-length, at best? Safety measures, such as no masks, no-touching policies, and limited cohort sizes are all inferior to the maskless, larger cohort that Zoom platforms can provide. I thoroughly advocate for returning to in-person teaching as soon as it is ABSOLUTELY safe.
3) Are you aware that if the county slides back to purple, there are no mandates for putting in-person teaching on hold?
4) As for your child and her academic standing, I am appalled by your willingness to throw your child's information out there. You give your name on this forum, state your child's district and grade, and don't expect that many would know who she is? I can't imagine doing that to a child, let alone her teacher.
5) Speaking of which, through discussions with fellow moms and dads about your post, not only was this information readily available, but it turns out that many parents in your child's class are incredibly grateful to the teacher. This does not surprise me, given the incredible hours both teachers and admin are putting in. Are you aware that the district admin has been working through scenarios since the early days of remote-learning? We're talking still in meetings, on phone calls, or exchanging emails until the wee hours of the morning kind of commitment.
6) I have one more question; if your child had only received the Star 360 (ELA, by the way - and also by the way, if your child completed it that quickly, she unfortunately rushed through the test, something a teacher cannot mitigate in person or remotely) and a quick fluency assessment (all fluency assessments are quick), how did you get her percentile score for math? This does not add up at all. You can't say your child only received ELA assessments, then state her percentile in math.

I hope you are able to address these questions, specifically about how you were able to attend a 30 minute Zoom lesson when you can barely keep up with your job and "teaching" your child, and how you were able to provide your child's current math percentile when you stated that only the STAR 360 (ELA) and a fluency test were administered.

dukemunson Oct 08, 2020 11:13 PM
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“Absolutely safe” doesn’t exist in life...so if that’s your demand to return to school... then school is done forever. And seriously, you are commending administrators for “still having phone calls and exchanging emails”? How low of a bar have you set for your fellow school teachers/admins? Your right though! I should be thankful and heartened... the admin and teachers have been “exchanging emails”... I can barely contain my gratitude nor truly fathom such extraordinary “commitment”!

Annps Oct 09, 2020 12:07 AM
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You clearly missed my inclusion of having meetings as well. They have been working around the clock, weekends included from the get-go. Teachers have been working around the clock and through the weekends as well. So yes, you should be thankful and heartened, but something tells me you view life from an incredibly privileged perspective where you consistently think of yourself as a victim. Your sarcasm and you inability to correctly spell the homophone "you're" are impressive as well.
As for absolutely safe, of course there is! Do you really think we will be living with this devastating virus forever? Besides, absolutely safe can also mean having the right status and protocols in place. Think it through a bit, Dukemunson.

dukemunson Oct 09, 2020 06:19 AM
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ANNPS - So you are one of the 291
Goleta school district administrators, who (well administrate!) the 164 teachers in the district. It’s a difficult job, I mean there are almost 2 of you for every actual teacher that teaches, but it’s tough work! But you haven’t given up...You are still having meetings and phone calls! You’re still filing those TPS reports! When someone has a problem with their direct deposit, three of you jump right on it! You do it though not for the money or because you are dropping your kids off a (RIGHT NOW!) at school for teachers and admins kids so you can “work” but through sheer dedication and strength of will! That direct deposit payment must be fixed! This administrator has an email they have to respond to today.. and a zoom meeting next week! And we can’t lose them... god knows what would happen if we suddenly had less administrators than teachers. How would anyone figure out what to do with the 19k per student that was allocated on a per student basis last year. Who would be on the other end of all those phone calls and emails?

dukemunson Oct 09, 2020 06:29 AM
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I have thought it through... what’s odd is that the school district seemingly hasn’t. They kept taking paychecks since March, touted a vigorous and safe plan to reopen and then gave up. All that aside, I truly appreciate the “privileged/victim” comment... that’s really good humor. I mean it’s coming from a school district employee who’s never missed a paycheck and made sure they have school available to drop their kids off at so they can “work” is pretty good! How privileged of me to think my kids should be going to school right now with teachers and admins kids! Those kids are special... their parents are administrating day and night for all of us!

bpriest Oct 09, 2020 10:33 PM
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ANNPS - WOW, this op-ed still has traction. Amazing. 11k+ reads.... Thank you for your comments. Maybe we are due for another op-ed with a longer boycott....? Should we do it?
To answer a couple of your questions;
1.) gusd requires that the classroom be taught in MY home. It's not really that difficult to figure out how hard it is to listen in on zoom considering my desk is 3 feet away from my child's work station. Trust me, when you are trying to "work remotely" and have a zoom class blaring in your ear you hear EVERYTHING. Thank you for asking.
2.) A bunch of nonsense not worthy of a reply. Please see other comments.
3.) More nonsense. Please read other comments
4.) This is the one I really wanted to address. I am proud to put my family name to this op-ed. How about you putting your full name to your comment so we can discover who you are? We will continue to advocate for a better education for our child, all gusd children, and stand behind our beliefs with our full name attached. You?
5.) Rubbish
6.) More rubbish but, you may have proven my point which I addressed directly, multiple times, with Donna (gusd superintendent) and who knows how many other administrators. This op-ed is a tiny portion of my communications with gusd. thank you.
Kinda good try ANNPS. I think you are in the minority on this thread.

Annps Oct 12, 2020 04:39 PM
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Dukemunson:
I am not an administrator with the district. I'm just paying attention to reality.
Where did you get this number of administrators? Please specify where they are. Each of the 9 schools has one administrator, and there are a handful or so at the district. Where do you get the rest of them? Even if you are referring to office managers and assistant office managers, that only gives you 27 at the collective sites. Are you saying the district has 264 administrators?

Annps Oct 12, 2020 04:57 PM
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BPRIEST
You are the one who opened this forum, yet you are unable to actually respond to someone.
As for the items that you are not able to form a response to, or you clearly didn't comprehend:
#2, You cited an out of date article, and are apparently unable to address the points I brought up.
#3, Again, are you aware that if the county slides back to purple, there are no mandates for putting in-person teaching on hold? Or are you, again, unable to respond?
#4 You are one of few who have your full name here. Why do you want my name? Sounds very creepy.
Worse yet, you missed my point. You are saying you had the guts to put your name out there. Guess what, you basically put your child's name out there. Yeah, that takes a lot of guts. Putting your 7 year old's info out there in contentious public forum isn't brave, it's irresponsible.
By the way, by you putting your name out there, there has been a lot of talk around town about interactions others have had with you, including a whole lot outside of the schooling realm. Trust me when I say that it puts you in a very unstable light.
#6 You said your child only received language arts assessments, then went on to say she tested at a specific percentile in math. That makes no sense, and again, you can't respond to that.
By the way, your daughter's percentile has to do with how her test results compared to other students around the nation who took the same test on the same day. Given that the majority of districts are not teaching in-person, and the fact that our district is far more affluent than most of the districts whose students took the same test on the same day, your daughter dropped not because of the teaching, but because of something else.

Luckily we can figure out what that "something else is:
She would have taken her last STAR 360 at the END of the previous school year, and then she took it again at the BEGINNING of this school year. That means any drop she had in her score occurred over the summer, when the teachers and school district didn't have any influence over her.
My guess, given how quickly you said she took the test, (I believe there are 35 questions on the test, which means she spent less than a minute on each question) it would stand to reason that she flew through it without giving it her all.
Given that the drop occurred over the summer, it sounds like the only other option is that the drop cannot be "blamed" on the teachers, the district, or the teaching model, but instead it should be "blamed" on you.

Annps Oct 12, 2020 05:01 PM
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You are so very ill-informed and out of touch. Again, teachers have been working at least 60 hours a week, and working through much of their unpaid summer as well.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 05:31 PM
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What reality are you paying attention to???? You somehow think teachers are the only people that can’t go back to work. That only at school do kids sneeze. Zoom classes are horrible and are probably doing more damage than good...so stop with the insane teacher/admin cheerleading, it’s ridiculous and completely divorced from reality. School needs to open immediately. Start with 2 days per week, which yes is exponentially better than 0 days per week and build from there. And as for school admins... I went to google... which led me to the national education statistic website. Crazy amount of “support staff” at the old GUSD. As best I can tell they hire 8 administrators and then need to hire a 9th to supervise said administrators.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 05:34 PM
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No... they really haven’t. You might tell yourself that... or “your teacher friend” might tell you that... but it’s not true. They don’t have to go back... and so they aren’t.

Basicinfo805 Oct 12, 2020 05:43 PM
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ANNPS? Huh? Wow, where does one start to respond to such a ridiculous blurb

Basicinfo805 Oct 12, 2020 05:48 PM
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ANNPS - I don't know about anyone else but your comments make me wonder what the hell your perspective/angle is. Paranoid, teacher, district player, what? Do tell...

bpriest Oct 13, 2020 10:09 PM
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ANNPS - I will continue to THANK YOU for your contribution to this op-ed. PLEASE, keep going. You have managed to show us your true colors in an attempt to defend, I'm not sure what.

Annps Oct 13, 2020 10:52 PM
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You clearly have absolutely no ability to respond to questions that are in direct response to your ill-informed statements.
I have posed questions that, if you had the ability to answer them, would show that you are wrong. So you of course ignore them.
I think the one that stings the most, and is like all of my other points, grounded in logic is that:
Given that the drop occurred over the summer, it sounds like the only other option is that the drop cannot be "blamed" on the teachers, the district, or the teaching model, but instead it should be "blamed" on you.

Annps Oct 13, 2020 10:57 PM
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Basicinfo805:
I am using logic here, and no one seems to be able to address the huge holes in their own arguments.
Since BPriest isn't able to make a coherent response, and you apparently have the basic info, why don't you address this? Or are you, just like your like-minded friends here, just going to continue doling out insults instead of actually addressing the issues with the points you all think you are making?

You are the one who opened this forum, yet you are unable to actually respond to someone.
As for the items that you are not able to form a response to, or you clearly didn't comprehend:
#2, You cited an out of date article, and are apparently unable to address the points I brought up.
#3, Again, are you aware that if the county slides back to purple, there are no mandates for putting in-person teaching on hold? Or are you, again, unable to respond?
#4 You are one of few who have your full name here. Why do you want my name? Sounds very creepy.
Worse yet, you missed my point. You are saying you had the guts to put your name out there. Guess what, you basically put your child's name out there. Yeah, that takes a lot of guts. Putting your 7 year old's info out there in contentious public forum isn't brave, it's irresponsible.
By the way, by you putting your name out there, there has been a lot of talk around town about interactions others have had with you, including a whole lot outside of the schooling realm. Trust me when I say that it puts you in a very unstable light.
#6 You said your child only received language arts assessments, then went on to say she tested at a specific percentile in math. That makes no sense, and again, you can't respond to that.
By the way, your daughter's percentile has to do with how her test results compared to other students around the nation who took the same test on the same day. Given that the majority of districts are not teaching in-person, and the fact that our district is far more affluent than most of the districts whose students took the same test on the same day, your daughter dropped not because of the teaching, but because of something else.

Luckily we can figure out what that "something else is:
She would have taken her last STAR 360 at the END of the previous school year, and then she took it again at the BEGINNING of this school year. That means any drop she had in her score occurred over the summer, when the teachers and school district didn't have any influence over her.
My guess, given how quickly you said she took the test, (I believe there are 35 questions on the test, which means she spent less than a minute on each question) it would stand to reason that she flew through it without giving it her all.
Given that the drop occurred over the summer, it sounds like the only other option is that the drop cannot be "blamed" on the teachers, the district, or the teaching model, but instead it should be "blamed" on you.

oops Oct 09, 2020 06:10 AM
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Open up the SCHOOLS. If its ok for truck drivers, cashiers at Von,TJ's, liquor stores, dispensaries, gas station attendants, trash pick up, mail carriers (carrying all your PRIME pkgs) to work then it is certainly ok for the TEACHERS go back to work. Are they some protected class versus all the others??
GET BACK TO WORK!

Voice of Reason Oct 09, 2020 08:29 AM
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Yes oops, they are. The governor mandated they'd be paid through summer 2021 no matter what. Anyone else here able to not go into work and still get paid, still have a job?

Annps Oct 12, 2020 05:07 PM
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OOPS:
Teachers have been at work, and then some. They have essentially had no free time. Your comment shows how ill-informed and out of touch you are.
As for comparing teachers to the other professions you have mentioned, it is apples and oranges. While our delivery drivers should be held up for all the extra hours they are working, (they get overtime, while teachers don't, by the way), they are in a truck by themselves and on empty porches for the most part. Teachers, on the other hand, are in front of sneezing, coughing, nose picking students all day. I'm sure grocery store clerks rarely have their customers yank down their masks to sneeze because they think it's too gross to sneeze directly into their mask.
You have really compared the situations within a classroom to professions that are no where as close.
As for restaurants, I don't have the budget to go out, so I may not have the correct information, but aren't they all outdoors? Are you suggesting that having students outdoors all year, with their mouths covered up? (Again, you are so out of touch. Students need to see their teacher speak and teachers need to see their students speak, something Zoom classes can provide, while in-person teaching doesn't.)

Annps Oct 13, 2020 10:38 PM
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Voice of reason:
Are you implying that teachers aren't working? News flash - they're working so much that they are missing out on their own lives. I have 4 children, my husband and I own two businesses, and I am very active in the community. I know a lot of folks through different groups - hiking, yoga, book club, etc. Quite a few of them are teachers and they are working so much almost every one of them I usually interact with isn't participating in anything. One considered not going to a wedding a couple hours south of here because of all the work she had.

Voice of Reason Oct 13, 2020 11:30 PM
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No Annps, I'm not. The shift to remote wasn't easy for the teachers either, this is hard on all of us. Doesn't change hiw kids should have never been out of school this long.

Justavoice Oct 09, 2020 07:39 AM
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I hope this comment isn’t offensive its just an opinion. Hopefully not censored as Edhat loves playing god with the comments....
But the this is not about the Children, its anout how almighty and powerful the teachers union is and how they get what they want. They dont care about the children just money

Voice of Reason Oct 09, 2020 08:28 AM
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Unfortunately I believe you are correct Just a Voice. That and our
governor cares more about his political ambitions than our current lives and livelihoods.

dukemunson Oct 09, 2020 08:04 AM
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I keep coming back to what the school district said about why they aren’t opening (and private schools and montecito schools are opening): “They are much smaller than us”. And it’s true! My Goleta Union School is small... but when you add in the other schools and the school board and the off campus administrators it becomes quite large. And in a lot of ways (magnified of course with this current situation), it’s probably too big to succeed.

Voice of Reason Oct 09, 2020 08:45 AM
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I've had several emails/conversations with the board. It seems they trying to achieve perfection with their reopening. My problem with this 1) since when has perfection been a requirement, not for test scores, reading comprehension, attendance, bullying, etc., 2) in that push for perfection they're not factoring in the negative consequences of keeping school closed, why covid safety above all else? 3) they have no appetite whatsoever (probably due to the unions) to push back on county and state public health and the governors office and say NO, this is not what's best for our community. Due to an arbitrary line on a map we're not allowed to open. Currently there are 13 active cases in the GUSD attendance area. 13! MY GOD WE CAN'T OPEN SCHOOLS....

Basicinfo805 Oct 12, 2020 05:37 PM
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Hey you guys, check out the Noozhawk article today : Santa Barbara School Board Considering 2 Dates for Return to In-Person Class Schedules

"Karen McBride, president of the Santa Barbara Teachers Association, said “there are many unanswered questions.”

Of course there are. Wake up teachers! This is your representative and her response to what we're seeing? Wow. Wake up and get real Karen McBride, life is not perfect. Hello? Everyone's sacrificing, especially the kids and parents. But you come up with this: "there are many unanswered questions". When won't there be unanswered questions in real life?

Teachers either have to step and respond or they're complicit in this situation. She's the Rep right?

a-1602552065 Oct 12, 2020 06:21 PM
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ANNPS - As you can see, these people who don't care about the safety of school children will not respond with anything substantive, and merely pour out more low-information logorrhea.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 06:42 PM
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Wait... are you Calling the CDC and dr Fauci “low information logorrhea”? Interesting take!!!!!

a-1602554646 Oct 12, 2020 07:04 PM
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Guess you missed, or didn't comprehend, that he said opening in an area with a positivity rate above 5% would be problematic, and lead to outbreaks. By the metrics, we're still clasisified RED, which is 5% to 8%. Our rate today is below 5%, but we have to keep it there for a while before we transition to a safer tier.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 07:19 PM
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We’re not in an area of 5-8% though... and you know that. Yes... our county is... but is Lompoc and Santa Maria really “in our area” from a Goleta school district 3rd grade opening perspective? The answer is obviously no... something you (and the school district) seem hell bent on ignoring...

a-1602556166 Oct 12, 2020 07:29 PM
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Call us back when you have a plan to isolate those parts of the county from Goleta.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 07:39 PM
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Kellog school is 58 miles from Santa Maria... 50 miles of which is pretty much completely empty... so... by definition the Kellogg 8 year olds are isolated from that. Unless you are a teacher or admin (and there is no incentive to go back!!!) Why hide behind that? We’re at the numbers that science and the experts say we should open... that we NEED TO OPEN for the kids... how can you with any credibility hide behind the arbitrary county line that includes Lompoc ?

a-1602557527 Oct 12, 2020 07:52 PM
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Where do the people who work in Goleta commute from? I gather you think the virus spreads by hiking across country, and not person to person?

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 07:58 PM
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What’s your porn? I mean, How much interaction is my 8 year old having at school with commuters from Santa Maria? I’m pretty sure the school district lines are a little tighter around Kellogg than say betteravia and Santa Maria way...

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 08:04 PM
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Your point/argument could have some merit regarding the sea center and natural history museums planned reopening this week... which will get visitors from la, Santa Maria and Lompoc. Our elementary schools Though are bubbles of kids who all live within 2 miles of campus... so your point (from a GUSD perspective) literally makes no sense

macpuzl Oct 12, 2020 08:04 PM
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Who works in the school cafeteria? Where do the janitors live? Where do the teachers live? Do you think that schools are stovepiped enclaves that only consist of people living within 100 yards?

a-1602558504 Oct 12, 2020 08:08 PM
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Yes, schools do not operate in isolation. And we've had a great recent example of the effectiveness of even frequent testing, if people are allowed to gather

macpuzl Oct 12, 2020 08:11 PM
One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

Luckily for us, there are rational adults making the decisions about when schools may be reopened safely.

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 08:21 PM
One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

Who are those rational adults again? Because if everything is open, from hotels to museums to restaurants to bars to camps to Private schools to rich public school to clubs to... well... literally Everything else... how are you justifying keeping this one thing that everyone agrees is absolutely necessary, closed? Schools are open... just not the ones with no incentive to open. Tell me macpuzl... why? And what makes this one thing staying closed a good rational thing?

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 08:24 PM
One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

Everyone is gathering... our kids included. Just not at the one spot that we all agree should be open!!!! The one spot that has to be open!!! The one spot that the experts all agree must be open if possible!!! The numbers say it’s not only possible but should be happening now... macpuzl and his ilk though ignore science. You Probably think Climate change is a hoax too don’t you?

dukemunson Oct 12, 2020 08:29 PM
One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

Well... we hired 21 new teachers and are currently paying everyone to not work. We Could continue paying the Lompoc based janitor to just not come... I guess, right? Then again, do You really want to keep thousands of kids out of school because of the Potentially handful of out of town school staff??? I mean that’s the most embarrassingly defeatist and just lack of reality comment possible. Have you ever problem solved in any capacity? Or did you get the long bar in Tetris and just immediately gave up? Can’t figure it out... Lompoc janitor... long bar that doesn’t immediately make a Tetris line... I quit !!!

macpuzl Oct 12, 2020 08:31 PM
One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

That's it, start deflecting. Those rational adults work at SB PHD and the school districts. If you haven't noticed, everywhere that societies have opened up, worldwide, cases are surging. Let's be lemmings, too! Of course, we've already thoroughly botched our response so much, that even very limited openings will be much tougher for us, given the prevalence of the virus and the behavior of our freedumb lovers.

a-1602560099 Oct 12, 2020 08:34 PM
One Day Zoom Boycott of GUSD

DM doesn't realize that until those problems are solved, reopening is not safe. And those are just the simple examples. Obviously a case of not thinking things through befor engaging the keyboard. Armchair experts always think that there's a simple answer.

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