Major Flooding on Bath Street

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Major Flooding on Bath Street
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Flooding at Anapamu & Bath (around 2:30 am Sunday). I could hear running water, looked outside and there was a flood! I was afraid my car wouldn't start but I got out of there just in time!!

 

 

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Ducky Dec 17, 2018 04:23 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Has federal funding for infrastructure that California regularly receives gone down, lately? If yes, why? This seems akin to the taxes that were proposed on our texts to help the “disadvantaged” get free cell phones/cell service.

Flicka Dec 17, 2018 09:44 AM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

I guess the property lines connect with the wye so it makes sense for the property owner to pay. Using local contractors makes sense, unions allow workers to make a living wage.

Factotum Dec 18, 2018 02:25 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

The wye connection is part of the city sewer service we pay for every single month. Without the wye, the city could extract no revenue from us. It is the city's duty to keep it functioning.

tagdes Dec 17, 2018 01:11 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

No, the property lines do not connect with the wye, they end at the city or county ROW. Just a month ago we had to pay for an encroachment permit to replace our driveway and apron within the city right of way which is 10' from TCF (top curb face) in San Roque. It also cost extra for the 6" thick portion they require for a future sidewalk. We were also told we could not put a hedge behind the curb 45 years ago for this same reason. Guess how many lineal feet of S/W they've put in since then in our area.

LocalMatt Dec 17, 2018 08:41 AM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

I fail to understand your point....the wye is apart of your sewer lateral. Yes it is one piece that also connects to the main line. Tierra or lash bid these jobs to handle these point repairs throughout the city. The wye is only for your home, so it is your responsibility.

Factotum Dec 18, 2018 02:28 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

The owner still has to pay for new video inspections every three years, even after paying Lash $5000 or so to replace the wye. Something is wrong with this. Anyone remember voting for this city shakedown?

tagdes Dec 17, 2018 12:40 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

You should change the "so" to "it happens to be another way " the city has found to screw us. Our gas lines and water lines and tees are " only for our homes" and not our responsibility in the city ROW, only after our meters. The city has polyester relined all or nearly all of the sewer lines and after sending in the little robot to cut out the laterals they are videoed. If there is any flaw, even a minor crack you're required to replace the wye or if you have a cast iron lateral you must pay $250 for a video to show it is perfect or you will replace it also. It's happening all over town look for the 4'by4' patch near the roadway center line. We just paid $9,000 just for the lateral and wye in the city ROW. This was cheap using non union Low Cost Plumbing who has done about 85% of these fixes. Next best price was $12,000. The actual wye still has to be installed in our case by Lash. We only avoided the $250 video because they had copies of our private property permit for the $8,000 we had just spent for new sewer under our house and lateral to the city ROW.

a-1547923273 Dec 17, 2018 08:14 AM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

After personally being forced to change out my wye (..... AND pay for the entire process) , I was told that recent policy changes state that the homeowner is responsible for their lateral line to the city main. When the repair happened, which can ONLY be done by LASH or Tierra, I discovered that the replacement piece is in fact NOT my lateral connection , but they replaced a section of the City’s main, which has the wye built into it. By all accounts, since this section is part of the actual main as it is one complete section, I fail to understand how this section of the sewer main becomes my problem. My lateral , which I am responsible for, attaches to the City’s main (which includes the wye), so this ultimately is the City forcing residents to pay for the City’s failing water/sewer mains. There is a huge difference in maintains my lateral and the connection to the City’s wye versus being forced to pay for the City’s replacement of a section of their main. Unfortunately, the City has us over a barrel and forcing the issue - if you don’t pay for their repairs , they will levy fines and liens.

PitMix Dec 17, 2018 08:26 AM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

What does your city council member say about this? I would definitely contact them and ask for relief.

PurpleBee Dec 16, 2018 10:00 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Looks a little familiar with the sight and sounds. Glad you got your car out in time.

LocalMatt Dec 16, 2018 07:02 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

The false narratives on this topic are troubling. The city puts out jobs to bid, meaning many contractors bid on such job. To say that that city has the man power and the knowledge to do this kind of work is hysterical. The city doesnt want the liability that goes along with projects like these. Every year new water main projects are put out to bid to replace old lines. If a contractor wins the bid that means the price was the lowest of all contractors. Then the contractor is taking on the liability if something goes wrong or the job actually costs more to build than originally estimated.

a-1547923273 Dec 18, 2018 02:26 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

PITMIX - you called Caltrans to ask if they penalized a contractor that was working on a city project? Wow. Sounds like when my 12 year old tells us to make sure our 8 year old gets a time out for not cleaning his room. Haha!

PitMix Dec 18, 2018 02:20 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Pretty common for the contractors to put in the low bid and then ask for change orders once they are doing the project. Anyone remember the Micheltorena Overpass project? The contractor went way long and over cost on that one. When I called Caltrans to find out if the contractor was penalized, they said that avoid applying penalties as it just results in an expensive lawsuit. That means that with nothing negative on their official record, the contractor was allowed to bid on future projects.

Factotum Dec 16, 2018 08:45 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Lash and Tierra are union shops, that is why they get all the bids. City just voted to make all city contracts union shop. Quid pro quo or something?

tagdes Dec 16, 2018 08:35 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Just adding to Matt's post which is spot on. As a retired 30 year local construction Resident Engr. and Inspector I can tell you, first as Matt stated they are contractors, not subs as stated below. Lash and Tierra both get most of the contracts because of course low bids which is due to both being local and sized proportionally for the jobs they bid on and readily meeting MBA and other requirements. Tierra just finished the Alamar water line and Lash does not get 90% of the jobs. It's pretty much who needs the job when it goes out to bid. Neither have the resources for large paving jobs so then one will see Granite with some resources here but out of Watsonville or another large company from elsewhere.

Factotum Dec 16, 2018 06:28 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

They are still pumping out huge amounts of water and it is running down Bath Street. It remains a gusher. 5pm

Factotum Dec 16, 2018 06:25 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

When will we finally shut down the million dollar a year Environmental Services Dept and start spending that same money on our actual infrastructure?

Lucky 777 Dec 16, 2018 05:46 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Several water main breaks in West Valerio canyon near the back side of Elings Park have caused the wyes in the street to move off of the main and/or break. . and recently the City stung a dozen of us with a $5,500 repair to replace the wyes. In other cities the citizen is ONLY responsible for maintenance of the pipes on THEIR property, but Santa Barbara changed the law a few years back and now charges the property owner for this repair, CAUSED by their shoddy maintenance of the main lines.

a-1547923273 Dec 16, 2018 03:07 PM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Time for me to go haul my three gallons of starter water (water captured while waiting for shower water to heat up) out of my bathroom and into the garden. Next, I haul my few gallons of clean rinse water out of my kitchen bucket and water the plants outside. Good thing I'm saving water.

a-1547923273 Dec 16, 2018 11:07 AM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Oh just another water main break-Happens every day in the City of SB-Time to get some new blood and actually rework our prehistoric infrastructure-with our annual budget (I cant count that high) you think the City would replace some of our 100 year old water mains-When they do they have subcontractors do it -even thou they have more employees and equipment just sitting around compared to the subcontractors like Lash- oh ya Lash is usually the sub for 90%+ of the jobs (thats weird)

Flicka Dec 16, 2018 09:39 AM
Major Flooding on Bath Street

Good grief, amazing video on Instagram (didn't see it on here). If you find out what caused it please enlighten us.

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