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Leadbetter Beach filled with people on Friday amidst the COVID-19 pandemic.
Leadbetter Beach Packed with People
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April 24, 2020, 5:43 am
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SO WHAT? Stay under your rock if you’re so bothered. Each group is clearly spaced apart 6 or more feet so it’s not a concern as to how many people there are. You don’t know if they live in the same house, it’s not your business anyway. In addition, you were at the beach too (unless you are using binoculars like a creep). you sound like the people that sit in traffic and complain about traffic.
See Edhat story this edition: Per SB Public Health “Other activities such as pleasure driving, outdoor housework including gardening, walking, hiking, running, and bicycling, going to the beach or trail walking are still permissible with proper social distancing.” Why are there always people who need to report on other alleged misconduct without taking the time to check it out?
Yesterday it was 91 in my apt and still 80 at 6am this morning. People concerned about other people minding their own business at the beach (park, trail, etc) is kind of sad. I bet some of these people would be in closer proximity to other people in their own residences.
You’re all dumb
Maybe these Petri dishes think they are rebels…like the creek stabber who ain’t going to end up in a ‘Pretty Woman’ sequel. Tonight I think I will watch one of my all-time fav flicks for the 171st time: Blade Runner….only this time it will be for reals. Out…
I’m not sure I’d want photo credits for those pics.
People look to be pretty well-spaced, to me.
ya know what kills viruses? heat, moisture, sunlight. of all the places to complain about “crowding” …. THE BEACH… is at the bottom of that list. especially during a record breaking heatwave…
no doubt some from down south –
Two weeks ago at Hendry’s a couple was satting in the middle of a large 12+ foot diameter circle in the sand to mark their social distancing boundary. Clever.
Sunlight kills the virus. You are probably safer there than inside a closed up grocery store.
Ha, I like that. I might have to use that.
Sad to see the science denialism gradually make its way into Santa Barbara….
There will be a lot more sick and dead very soon.
I am NOT a fan at all of “science denialism”, but it has been scientifically shown that ultraviolet light (sunlight counts) kills COVID. Heat also. So, I would think the beach is safe.
Please stop spreading this nonsense! Yes UV rays will kill the virus in large concentration. A concentration so high it’s toxic to humans. You don’t get enough UV rays from the sun to kill the virus or humans.
These two doctors with decades of expertise & practical experience in immunology (which Dr. Fauci does NOT have!) clearly sate that only sick & immunocompromised individuals must be quarantined, not healthy people!
https://
youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx
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Fauci advised the opposite.
YouTube – the primary information source for people who can’t read and don’t care about fact vs fiction.
I’m being won over — by the heat. I have AC, set to 80, it went on twice early a.m. If I was still in my old apartment? It would be horrible, I’d be at the beach. At least out. Don’t pay attention to local news, look at local weather stations on Wundermap. It’s been 95-96 for several days in my neighborhood. I’m super paranoid and support stay at home orders, but going to the beach, hiking, walking? I hope the people criticizing read some articles by medical pros. Sure, I hope all our fellow SB’ers are very cautious. You need everything to fall into place in an unlikely sequence to very casually catch it. No question the beach is healthier than a store!!
You can’t be sure what’s happening on the beach unless you’re there. And even then, you don’t know what the family unit is. Lots of info if you search “what are social distance guidelines for outdoors”
My mother, a schoolteacher for her whole life had a name for students who protested every move others made—Defenders of public morals—
We’re dooooooomed!
whatever.
Camera angles can be set up up to show pretty much anything you want. In the foreground they’re well more than six feet apart, as it farther out. Distance can be deceiving in photos.
How long and at what cost ? Are we going to live in a bubble forever? What about herd Immunization, have we forgotten how it works ? The heat will kill this and most bugs!! Never in history have we quarantined a healthy population? The death numbers are not correct and likely less, some 98% survive just fine but I guess will see. however I would rather live free than live like this.
So someone uses a telephoto lens to show people are not keeping their social distancing??? Talk about dishonest. That, my friends, is what gaslighting is all about.
gee, look at New York indeed… highest population density in the entire country by a large margin…. they never closed their subway system (it was declared essential) nobody owns cars… massive highrises that are very old construction with large commonly shared ventilation systems… big picture? get real. == https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/if-half-the-countrys-covid-deaths-were-in-montana-would-new-york-shut-down/
All the models for this pandemic are being revisited as models have to be. The problem has always been math haters do not know how to calculated statistics–turns out this virus is just a deadly as all of them (200 others) , BUT representing now 0.1% death , and even if it hits 2%-4% –the number seems large. With great sympathy for families, many of these people were ill and close to death as they tried to prevent ventilator death and complications. Others had other risk factors. That means as we are learning that we may have done the right thing to “close the country”, but “life is still a beach . This has gone on too long and government is sending confusing messages because the “science” is confusing now, even wrong. The outdoors is better for the vulnerable as well. Heat Prostration, dyhydration and low D3 Levels (from the sun) kills more seniors!
Consider the source: “PJ Media is a right-wing media subscription based site that that was founded in 2004. ”
I am absolutely appalled by the majority of comments for this posting. Without shutting down the country, we were on track to a major catastrophe, and it’s not just old farts like me who die and have their health ruined for good. Not to mention all the medical personnel who caught the disease, suffered great mental anguish from watching people die gasping like goldfish out of water, and kept working even though we couldn’t get them enough PPE. The longest river in the world in the world is still Da Nile.
Nonsense. The virus lives in water droplets / vapor / phlegm, etc. How long does a sneeze or a loogie last in the direct sun or on the hot sand? That is the only thing you should worry about here. The virus not a bio agent, it has to survive on its host in order to transfer to you. You then have to ingest enough of it to take hold. Think about it. Take a spray bottle of water, spray it onto any service in the direct sun, outdoors. And count. How long does the water stay wet in that scenario? How long did it take to dry and evaporate? Not in a lab, not under a UV light buldb, but in the full sun with a nice breeze. It wont last very long will it? A few seconds, a half min… maybe a little longer. The odds of contracting it outside in the sun are minuscule at best. Be smart, dont touch your face, dont spend time with people who are sick and you will be fine. Dont let fear win. Go outside, be alive.
So all the shedders are going to the beach because they were told UV light kills the virus. Maybe mix some Chlorox with your sunscreen while you’re at it. Me…I prefer patchouli oil to guarantee nobody comes within six feet of me as well as brandishing a pitchfork in the event I notice someone not following ambiguous regulations.
That’s not what gaslighting is. The definition is: “manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.”
EXACTLY! That’s my point too. What about the Southern Hemisphere countries like Thailand and Indonesia where temeratures are regularly in the 80’s-90’s with high humidity? Explain how heat kills the virus.
Sure, but there is no reason people from the same household should not be able to go to the beach together and maintain distance from others. The problem I see looks more like people who I am certain don’t live together (like groups of adult couples) meeting up and playing volleyball, etc. I agree COVID is a real threat and we need to take precautions, but people cannot literally stay in their houses for years on end for a cure that may never arrive. Especially during a heatwave. It was over 92 in my living room and kitchen the last two days because we don’t have AC. I can’t do this much longer.
Maybe get yourself a portable AC unit. They’re not too expensive. A few hundred bucks. It will save you from the heat and let you sleep. This isnt going to be the only heat wave we’ll experience this year or next.
So how does your playing with the spray bottle analogy work when you compare it to how long the virus lives on hard surfaces?
So how does your playing with the spray bottle analogy work when you compare it to how long the virus lives on hard surfaces?
Do you recommend putting light and heat inside the body to kill the virus too? Your comment is juvenile. The vast majority of groups at the beach are not housemates or families. They are younger people who are friends having a day at the beach with a few families thrown in. Allowing the beaches to be open for sunbathing and picnics is insane. It’s really a recipe for disaster and will likely lead to not only having people from LA and north of us to our beaches, because theirs are closed, to mix with our residents at the beach. Do you know where 50% of those positive with the virus are? Los Angeles County. We are going to increase the spread by keeping the beaches open for things other than exercise.
Not when groups of people who don’t live together share food, drinks, blankets, sunscreen and get too close all day long…
@664 I wonder if you will feel the same way when you are choking on a ventilator. Please do test out your theories.
The County said earlier Friday that parking areas at beaches, trails and parks could close if they become too crowded.
There was a line of cars along Cliff from Hendry’s past Allen Road. That is ridiculous! I’ve lived up the road a long time and NEVER seen it that long. People think this shut-down is a vacation.
I’m not paranoid, but I think about what my actions could do to someone else and their family.
So, to you people that have the same scientific “facts” as Trump. Wake up!
And, by the way, breezes carry the aerosols with the virus much farther than 6 feet. Oh, and also, UV and heat don’t instantly kill Covid-19.
yknow Greentree… if you had been paying attention to the medical narrative.. you would discover that they are downplaying ventilators lately, as they don’t seem to be proving that effective and may even be harmful to some. Other treatments are emerging that aren’t so terrible. your threats only reveal your inner sickness.
One of the issues not getting enough press is the big part that pre-existing conditions play in this disease and many others. The likelihood of developing diabetes, various heart, high blood pressure, kidney, liver, sleep issues is heavily related to being obese which 1/3 of all Americans are. Another third are overweight. With that kind of numbers, something is going on that isn’t merely personal choice. It’s an American life-style, food quality & availability issue that needs to be solved. The results are pain, limited mobility, depression, and vast expense as we age.
The people at the beach are not all roommates or families. The Public Health Director needs to close the beaches.
Rescues are way up at the trails. Beaches have lots of people at the beach socializing with people they don’t live with who are sharing food, blankets, sunscreen and playing contact sports… Time to shut both down.
telephoto lens? these are cellphone pics. the photographer is a Wedding Photographer who is obviously salty about being out of work.
he specifically walked down onto the beach and took shots pointing down the beach longwise… and all photos are cropped in a way to make it ‘look more crowded’
“Family” is a misleading criteria. It should be “living together.” If you have a large family that doesn’t live together and you get together on week-ends, someone in the group may be sharing more than love and hugs. Not seeing people your love who don’t live with you is miserable and lonely, but infecting a loved-one, especially those whose age or pre-exisitomg condition makes this disease more deadly for them, is a horrible risk. The “carrier” may not even know they are sick.
“live free” Would those around you that you could unknowingly infect agree?
For those of you who aren’t aware they exist, there’s something called a “swamp cooler” that’s cheap to make and works well if the humidity isn’t high. Great for places like hot, dry Arizona.
Love your patchouli idea. That would keep me away!
The chicken littles just need to relax and come enjoy the sunshine at the beach. No need to freak out people are respecting everyone’s space.
Hey Midair. Nonsense?
http://www.scribd.com/document/456897616/DHSST
more like… the research that our scientists are doing. educate thyself.
“The heat will kill this . . .” Tell that to Singapore.
1918 pandemic. They stayed home, then went out to celebrate the end of WWI. The second wave, in 1919, killed way more people.
The virus spreads exponentially. Two people contract it, one is asymptomatic, doesn’t realize they have it. Flare up. Extended lockdown. Cranial-rectal inversion persists nonetheless.
Scary thought. They also arrive in packed vehicles that just spent god knows how many hours in freeway traffic, guaranteeing if one person in the vehicle had it they now all do.
how do you explain this one then? ==
https://www.kron4.com/health/coronavirus/autopsies-confirm-first-covid-19-deaths-in-santa-clara-county-were-in-february/
== nobody was locked down in feb. so by your argument… we had “exponential spread” completely uncontrolled… for well over a month… and yet….??????? … ??
as long as testing remains so non-existent… we really have zero way of determining the R value in a factual manner.. all current R values are conjecture.
you’re looking at a very small part of the whole. look at new york. exponential.
I didnt know edhat had so many doctors and scientists!