Junipero Serra Statue Beheaded at Old Mission

And the Know it all lefty bullys.

I thought you were the Far right lefty most true leftys are passive and not into character assassination...Here comes da Mud!

ok I apologize .

Bully for you ! Sorry I had to go to Physical Therapy so I can walk. lol

Or, instead of shutting it down, making it like old times were the deleted comments would go somewhere else and you could look at them if you want. Now, you can only see what comments were deleted, not actually read them.

I'm not mean at all you don't know me out of everyone who has ever come to my house all are still alive and quite healthy.

And yet, FLICKA, no one has had more comments deleted than Roger himself. Why would that be if he is so beneficent? Methinks his fans like to overlook his mean streak.

The Boston Tea Party was a response to taxation that was happening currently. Your loose understanding of historical events and their context is the reason this statue should stay up.

Don't put words in my mouth I'm not your straw man.

Your not going to argue but you will call people names from your keyboard passive aggressive much?

Actually Rex bought up the priests protecting other priests from being prosecuted for child molestation and protected by the Catholic church in fact several child molesting priests have been protected allowed to live out their days in the Santa Barbara Mission. I hijacked no thread as another first spoke this this before I did but you may blame me as I am sure that most things in your life is someone else's fault.

this comment landed in the wrong spot. lol

It's never to late , even for someone as hateful as you.

Laughing...
Poor, ignorant child..there's no such thing as a "peace pipe"...
That comes from you believing old western movies.
Columbus didn't discover "america" & this isn't India.

don't fall for this jerkface and his taunts....you're bigger than that man. this guy is nothing but a coward. You see, in the digital age, guys like him, think they are big and brave hiding behind a computer monitor acting like a passive aggressive child. I've dealt with people of this low brow caliber for decades.

Ok...pack your peace pipe.

It's kind of a pretty red paint like someone had to mix it up like that to get the perfect color I don't think they bought it in a store it's kinda Animal House ish to me not my style...There might not have been so much to say about it if the picture was covered up like other news sights...I am very strongly against and very sensitive to the subject of sex crimes.

I did not say everyone is bad I'm sure the Pope is a good guy my Uncle got a scholarship too Notre Dame damn lawyers wish there was an Island around somewhere...I don't think all cops are bad where did I say that? And how come I have to read this comment twice? Oops was manipulating the situation must be someone's mother OK a paragraph is OK but did you have to write a book?

One of many definitions of Preach: to advocate or inculcate in speech or writing. You have expressed your sentiment on many occasions. Some I agree with. This is pretty hard to stomach.

Its not just about religion its about idealism. Everyone has their own brand. Some let it play out with time others try to make it pertinent to any situation that might fit their prerogative and ignore the rest. I appreciate your informative posts on police activity as well as many other comments. I just don't wanna see the good old Roger Dodger handle that I love and I am sure we all do, discredit it's fairly objective coverage of local issues. I would not have commented if this had not gotten so one sided from someone on Edhat I truly appreciate. I have lived in the south and been to bible beating churches... You can look up the power team and have a good laugh. Idealism is not the path to tolerance and that is all I am saying. You can poke at any religion but the reality is that religion is just a practice. Good people will do good things, Bad people will do bad things. One way to get good people to do really bad things is religion and I think you could see how pouring red paint on a statue is probably not a good thing for our city and that historic monument. I think you want to do right but consider the consequences.

I completely understood what Oops was getting at. The whole stating your beliefs thing is all well and good. Perhaps you can consider being respectful of the fact that not everyone thinks all cops are bad or the criminal justice system is completely unfair or that tearing down statues is an act of vandalism. When you only hold yourself accountable to being completely honest all the time you will find yourself over spoken and lacking perspective. Not a personal attack. Just an observation. Thanks for all the good that you do on here. But remember not everyone is gonna agree with you and you may find it beneficial to consider their opinion. For every rape that you want to wave around and point a finger at you have literally hundreds of scholarships to catholic universities (my brother got one and certainly could not have afforded to attend University) How about the rescue mission? And yes I have read Christopher Hitchens and agree with his sentiments on religion. I just don't bad mouth an entire group of people because of issues that occurred with a select group. If you use that logic we would be in wars everywhere and be making enemies with everyone. The kind of scenario you paint our current leadership out to be. Just a thought to ponder over some coffee or something.

I completely understood what Oops was getting at. The whole stating your beliefs thing is all well and good. Perhaps you can consider being respectful of the fact that not everyone thinks all cops are bad or the criminal justice system is completely unfair or that tearing down statues is an act of vandalism. When you only hold yourself accountable to being completely honest all the time you will find yourself over spoken and lacking perspective. Not a personal attack. Just an observation. Thanks for all the good that you do on here. But remember not everyone is gonna agree with you and you may find it beneficial to consider their opinion. For every rape that you want to wave around and point a finger at you have literally hundreds of scholarships to catholic universities (my brother got one and certainly could not have afforded to attend University) How about the rescue mission? And yes I have read Christopher Hitchens and agree with his sentiments on religion. I just don't bad mouth an entire group of people because of issues that occurred with a select group. If you use that logic we would be in wars everywhere and be making enemies with everyone. The kind of scenario you paint our current leadership out to be. Just a thought to ponder over some coffee or something.

What do I preach? I'd really to know because I'm not a preacher and I have always stated my beliefs here and been accepted What do I preach?

Of course I no nothing of racism I'm just a dumb ass from NorthWest Indiana just a hair South of Chicago so if we are going to speak all huffy and puffy of where we are from and how ignorant everyone else is New Orleans has NOTHING on the space between Gary and Chicago the Glorious Arm Pit of Chicago...I believe the Native Americans over the White man priestly bunch anyway and I still like the colorful picture.....The Blessed Pink people have always played control games with people of other colors...White is so bland.

So when was the statue at the mission put up? No one even knows what Junipero looked like. It was put up to celebrate someone who did something a specific group glorifies while another group feels it is a sign of oppression. No native american in their right mind looks at the mission as anything other than the first wave of the white invasion and enslavement. You don't know what you are talking about with the confederate statues. And having lived in New Orleans for many years and observed the racism and segregation there I can speak to it from first hand experience. Happy you feel so empowered to share your lack of perspective in public. One day you may figure it out but thats not my job. At least I can say all this and still show my handle.

Not entirely correct. Actually very much not correct. Many of the confederate statues were donated years after because there were more important things to do after a civil war. (Something we will get to see or feel again if we keep this up) The junipero statue was placed up for the same exact reason the confederate statues were. To celebrate a leader who made decisions that society now shuns and has evolved from. I know this kind of vandalism looks really ugly in your home town... maybe you should stop inflicting your opinions on towns with people who have no desire to hear yours. The people in the south have a right to sort out their statues and I think we can do the same... you seem to just want to ignore the fact that we also have statues that can be taken as symbols of oppression. If you can come up with a way the mission was built that did not involve enslaving native Americans I am sure some anthropologist would love to hear it. Just like how all confederate statues where built in the 20th century. You can fact check yourself I don't have the time.

Exactly, and this is why it is NOT the same thing as this vandalism of the statue at the Mission. Not sure how some people here equate these two events. This statue wasn't erected to intimidate or frighten Native Americans.

If I had some weed you mean it would be making me paranoid.

That weed is making you paranoid .lol

Fully agree.
And why, pushing their "logic" to its obvious conclusion, why don't they just all move out of California and revert the land to the natives ?
Come on P.C. people : do it !!

Not to long ago someone tried to torch something on the property so perhaps they are trying to say something I suspect someone in the comments most likely someone condemning the comments so they won't be suspected...

I agree with Nativeofsb. This was vandalism, plain and simple. It wasn't a "protest," not a "resistance," not anything other than a crime. Have your opinions about the subject matter of the statue, fine. But to tout this as some kind of heroic act or something is just sad. Look at the other story about the men who were caught tagging in Goleta. Amazing the difference in comments.

Roger knows of what he speaks about. Welcome to Edhat. You'll figure it out if you stick around. He's definitely not joking or making light of terrible crime.