Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

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By Anna Marie Gott

Due to the concern’s residents have about a permanent supportive housing facility for 14 chronically homeless individuals at 15 South Alisos Street the Salvation Army will hold a community meeting. The meeting will be held tomorrow, Monday September 30th, at the Franklin Neighborhood Center from 6:00PM to 7:30PM. Residents from the Eastside and all other areas of Santa Barbara should consider attending the meeting.

The proposed project includes the removal of two 2-bedroom cottages from the residential rental market, which had previously been rented to those in the workforce, and the construction of one 10-bedroom manufactured home. - Each bedroom will be individually leased.

The Salvation Army has proposed to covert the property into a facility dedicated to providing permanent supportive housing for the chronically homeless with severe needs under California's Housing First Policy. Funding will be provided by the Homeless Emergency Aid Program (HEAP) with rent subsidies from the Santa Barbara Housing Authority if certain criteria is met.

Housing First is an approach that offers permanent, affordable housing as quickly as possible for individuals experiencing homelessness, and then provides the supportive services and connections to the community-based support services people need to keep their housing and avoid returning to homelessness. Under Housing First programs residents will not be required to abstain from drugs or alcohol or seek mental health treatment and will come from the County’s coordinated entry system that assesses an individual’s level of vulnerability and use of services.

Last year a Housing First project was proposed at the Castillo St. commuter parking lot. The Tiny Homes for the Homeless proposal required 24/7 oversight, on-site managers/case-workers, a part-time nurse, security cameras, and included some oversight by a police officer for 40 chronically homeless individuals.

The Salvation Army proposes to house 14 chronically homeless individuals with no on-site oversight other than case managers who occasionally drop by the facility or make referrals to offsite mental, medical and social service providers.

If approved this would be the 3rd facility focused on providing services to the chronically homeless in the immediate area while other areas of the City provide no such services. - Both PATH and the Rescue Mission have homeless shelters a few blocks away.

Parents of children attending nearby Adelante and Franklin elementary schools are worried about the proximity of the facility to the schools while other Eastside residents are worried and frustrated that the Eastside has simply become the “dumping ground” for social programs for the homeless and the increasing problems with the homeless which are increasing, not being taken seriously and remain unaddressed.

To date the City of Santa Barbara’s Planning and Community Develop Department has stated that this project is a “use by right” project. They have further stated that the project does not require a conditional use permit, an Environmental Impact Report or any other approval other than architectural design.  If true it means a project like this can be placed anywhere in the City with no conditions of approval or operating requirements.

Date:     Monday, September 30th
Time:     6:00 to 7:30 PM
Place:    Franklin Neighborhood Center
             1136 East Montecito Street

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Roger Oct 01, 2019 06:27 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

This project and a few others should be moved to the West Side every one is getting down on the East Side while most of the shelters are here. The Salvation Army is just over into the West Side on Chapala what about San Andreas? San Pasqual? They could take on acouple shelters over there...Over by Food Land...Just about everyone for this project live elsewhere. NIMBYISM at it's finest...

a-1580136036 Oct 01, 2019 02:00 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

This project is rather different than people are imagining. When someone who is experiencing homelessness moves indoors, they need a lot of support to KEEP them housed. When you work with chronically homeless individuals in particular, you'd be stunned at the long and bureaucratic path to get someone housed. The Housing Authority evicts more recently-housed homeless than you'd believe. Most of the people on this thread could not make it in a Housing Authority project here. If there was a magic bullet to end homelessness we'd have found it. We NEED supportive housing with services like detox, mental health, public health and life skills to keep folks housed.

LCP112233 Oct 01, 2019 11:47 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

Anyone else hear about the couple of vagrant guys in the Santa Barbara Ross today? Filthy and trying on shirts over their dirty clothes. Hanging out in the bathroom when customers were waiting in line behind them? I guess "I got it at Ross" will take on a new meaning if someone comes down with meningitis or the like.

LCP112233 Oct 01, 2019 01:45 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

No sir. They were hocking lugies in the store. Not trying on clothes to buy. Just to be jerks. Doing Lord knows what in the bathroom. It actually happened. Send me your address, next time we see some disgusting human behaving this way we will send them to your house.

MyHonorStudentB Oct 01, 2019 09:24 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

Humorous, New verb form of the word "covert"? I can't resist this somewhat pedantic observation. The article contends "The Salvation Army has proposed to covert the property into a facility..." They probably meant "convert" but in some sense it is meaningful. A common complaint about supportive housing conversions is that they are done "covertly" rather than transparently with community notice and feedback. Perhaps the Edhat writer has invented a new verb form of the word "covert." That cracks me up lolololol...

RHS Oct 01, 2019 09:05 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

No one is suggesting that we "put them all together" on one site. This is a small number of "them" and there will be such sites scattered across the city to disperse the impact if NIMBY's can just take a deep breath and let the program get going.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 04:59 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

This is a terrible idea. I have worked for supportive housing and to qualify for housing you must have a Severe mental illness, substance abuse problem AND physical disability. Unfortunately that creates a lot of difficulties to be a successful tenant. Sorry to say this but if you Put them all together without on site staff and it will be a total disaster. Next plan please...

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 04:41 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

I sent this to the City Council, Administrator and City Attorney Today- Ladies and Gentlemen- While most people sympathize with the homeless, putting this shelter in the center of a population consisting of many families with children is a lousy idea. While a great many homeless are decent people who have had a bad hand dealt to them, there are also people in the population that have severe mental illnesses and some of those can be violent. There are also criminals in the homeless population. How is the Salvation Army going to guarantee the families in the area around this proposed shelter that they and especially their children will be safe? Is the Salvation Army going to do a full medical check and a full criminal background check on each person who they house there? Are they even equipped to do these full background checks? I will guarantee you that if this shelter is approved and a crime, including robbery, assault or some kind of sex crime, etc. happens to anyone in the area that is committed by a resident of this shelter, the Salvation Army and the City of Santa Barbara's taxpayers are going to be on the hook for some huge legal bills and cash settlements. You had better think this out before you approve this homeless shelter. It is a good idea in the wrong location. Regards, Ernest Salomon

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 04:12 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

Where are these homeless people's family members? Why isn't the responsibility for providing them with housing and help on the family? Why do strangers now suddenly have some duty to step in and do what family should be doing?

a-1580136036 Oct 01, 2019 12:58 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

So, now it's the government's duty to step in and do what family was unable to do? Lordy by your take, our government would be caught up in so much that they'd get nothing else done. I suppose we should also take care of all disabled kids whose families won't can't help too?

RHS Oct 01, 2019 09:08 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

Who gave this duty to "family"? What if "family" doesn't exist, doesn't know of the problem, has contributed to the problem from the start, doesn't have resources to address the problem, etc.? Society is the family that counts.

Chuey Craig Sep 30, 2019 01:26 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

The Salvation Army is known to discriminate and reject those from the GLBT community. ——- Whatever happens with this proposal, I hope the City and County require them to sign a non-discrimination agreement and to serve everyone regardless of sexual orientation and religious belief or lack of belief. ——— Spending public money to support a group that discriminates against some members of the public would be wrong. ———- I invite other members of the SB community to support this principle no matter where you stand on this particular project. Thank you

Chuey Craig Oct 02, 2019 05:40 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

4:17: You are correct. The SA has gone to court to establish a right to discriminate against those of other religious beliefs - or no belief - and against members of the gay community. They have that right. Just like the Boy Scouts did when it was taken over by a religious group and began excluding gay boys and dads; it didn’t turn out well for the Boy Scouts who are still struggling to recover after renouncing their discrimination policy. —- Similarly, we - the public and the government we fund and that represents us - have the right to refuse them special treatment and any public funding. Discrimination is wrong. Religion does not justify bogotry. ——— I will not support SA until they rebuke their bigotry. I urge other people of good faith or no faith at all to do likewise. ——— If they hold themselves out as a charity and solicit the general public and taxpayers for support, then they should serve everyone in need.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 04:17 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

The Salvation Army is a Christian organization. Even if it's distasteful to some, several cases have already been decided allowing one to exclude some based on religious belief. What you are proposing is a violation of the Salvation Army's constitutional rights and will not be upheld.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 11:44 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

It's like saying being up in a plane, flying cross-country, looking out the window and saying, "Gee. Look at the size of the USA. There's tons of places for people to live." How much of that land is truly arable, livable? How much of that area has average 70ºF temps where the night-time temps rarely go below 45ºF? Where the rain rarely falls and there's no snow? How many cities are on a beautiful coast and have loads of parks in which to sleep? How many cities have railroad property where, seemingly, the "unsheltered" can make camp with impunity? On and on. We're all here because we love Santa Barbara and think it's a great place to live. Why wouldn't the transients, hobos, winos, bums think the same?

pkww Sep 30, 2019 11:15 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

It's no secret that people sleep outside along this block of Milpas, and in their cars as you move east into the neighborhood. What is wrong with letting some sleep inside? In my view this will help the neighborhood. Also, I live in the neighborhood.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 10:41 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

I've previously blasted AMG however I see that in fact she has contributed important awareness in this case. She might be a busy body but in instances like this and for that horrific little "tiny homes" project that the city attempted to shove in the Carrillo lot... I'm glad she is raising awareness and on the ball. Too often the city obscures of deliberately under advertises projects it hopes the community won't have time to find out about and fight against.

VinSB Sep 30, 2019 12:13 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

10:41 AMG might soon take on a public nuisance in your neighborhood, on your block. It's the people who stay quiet and look the other way that you have to worry about. Too many are overly concerned over how they might be perceived. Big issues get swept under the rug, until it's too late.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 10:39 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

BIG Public Nuisance on the horizon. How can the City allow this? What neighborhood is next? Why isn't this in a commercial zone away from residents? Why isn't there a requirement for 24/7 staffing? If this moves forward people need to rethink giving money to or supporting the Salvation Army.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 10:19 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

This will absolutely become a public nuisance. They've done this in other cities in the nation and that was always the outcome - check out places in some of the NY boroughs, they put them in, it's a nuisance then other cities fight any coming to their towns because of that, rightfully so. There's a battle right now going on near FLushing NY on one of these nuisances. Say goodbye to your property values.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 12:55 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

Let’s just take care of our own who have situational setbacks, or outlive resources. Homelessness is a federal problem. 1/4 of homeless are in CA. The weather is good, 9th Circuit Court gives Homeless more rights here than anywhere in US, , and liberals are generous handing out fives. Let’s get HUD funds to build a Tiny Home Community to shelter them.

letmego Sep 30, 2019 09:32 AM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

Does anything make this woman happy? Or anyone happy? "I hate the homeless, we need to DO SOMETHING." "Oh NO, I didn't mean THAT. I just wanted them to go AWAY." Sigh. They don't go away. They don't cease to exist. Let's just continue to do nothing, and see where that gets us. More warming fires till the whole damn town burns down.

PitMix Sep 30, 2019 02:22 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

12:36, how could I have referenced the text that she highlighted in the application document without reviewing the links? Whenever you start highlighting specific info for other people, you are directing their attention to the items you think are important. Thus the bias.

a-1580136036 Sep 30, 2019 12:33 PM
Community Meeting on Homeless Facility Slated for the Eastside

AMG surely has an opinion. I can guess what it is too. But she's trying to let people know that there is a meeting, is urging them to come to it and providing information about it. Seems like she wants people to come, hear about the project and make their own decision. We need more AMG's in the world. She's a Dynamo.

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