Aggressive Panhandler grabs female by the hair near McDonalds, 29 North Milpas. SBPD Code 3 lights and sirens for a code 242 Assault.
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Why are most of them WMs and fairly young? Older females I could understand. That generation either worked for peanuts or they just took care of the young, the old, the sick, fed and cleaned for everybody in the family. In short, didn't work by our society's standards. so they aren't entitled to a roof over their heads in old age if half their husbands' S.S. doesn't cover it and they ran through their savings paying his medical bills, or they didn't marry.
Myth- these are not "hapless and indigent" people harassing our downtown retail district. They are con artists, grifters and service resistant addicts. Our very expensive social safety net more than adequately takes care of the "indigent". The "hapless" con artists are the ones ruining it for everyone else.
Two choices: one is free move to where they can afford to live on social security; and yes, some people do need to be in lock down care institutions. Stop conflating the two. They are not necessarily one and the same. Stay focused. We are looking for solutions; not excuses. Status quo is unacceptable.
Demanding a full social safety net in order to live in a premium coastal community or else it is "inadequate". Don't think so. There are so many places in this country where one can and does live very adequately on social security.
To say our social safety net is adequate is far from accurate. The recent census indicated hundreds of beds short. I've said it once and I'll say it again. If we can provide long term housing for those with mental illness (right now we can't) then we should make it illegal to sleep in the street. If you're local (i.e. became homeless while living in the County) and mentally ill, I'll gladly let my tax dollars go to appropriate long term housing. But, if you're not local and mentally ill than it's a one way ticket out of town or jail (depending on the behavior). We can't keep tolerating this. We need to ensure adequate services are available AND let the police can do their jobs. It's not one or the other.
No your safety net does not adequately provide for the indigent if it was YOUR WAY they would all be locked up in SO CALLED care institutions...
I just returned from 11 days in Seattle and it is truly an alive, bustling, happening city.
Alive and bustling with homeless just like SF and SB! was just in Seattle also. Major stench and too many living on the streets due to inept elected officials failing to work on the hard stuff preferring straws and re-striping streets to one lane with added collision guaranteed bulb-outs.
Oh yes, Seattle. At nearly 4 MILLION people, the greater Seattle area is very much alive.
Returned from Seattle last year and the city was trashed with dockless bikes left all over the place in total disarray - Lime and Bird mainly but others too..
With such little information how can people be so quick to condemn and extrapolate disaster? If there was an unprovoked attack that is the subject of criminal law and should be prosecuted by the police and DA. The rest of the stuff here is not much more than bigotry--this time against the indigent and hapless street people who are not more violent or criminal than most of us.
Reality check - panhandlers and deranged shouting and flailing street people, their presence and aggressive harassment of pedestrians, especially older people, destroyed downtown Santa Barbara and undermined two important city revenue streams - retail sales taxes and tourism. No, it was not online shopping that destroyed downtown, because other controlled access retail environments in this area are doing just fine.
Watch Seattle Is Dying and all this will make sense.
Because it reads like your talking about macing all of the homeless not just those who attack I have been attacked before there is nothing more I would like to nuke someone who attacks but you cannot just do it there are laws..I was questioning how you put it.l
So when do you mace a "vagrant?" Every time a homeless person loudly asks for change? Every time one walks toward you? Please explain when to mace?
Mace, people, Mace. If the city isn't going to do anything, the citizens should. Word gets out that we regularly mace these people, they'll leave.
Description of the suspect?
I never heard what he looked like the cops were on him right a way but the victim left the scene I did not hear anything else.
Suspect better leave town and soon, otherwise he is going to get the shinola kicked out of him.
Check out 101 at Milpas exit. The traffic backs up on freeway to almost Garden Strret on ramp because SB Police refuse to arrest daily PANHANDLER who local idiots block traffic flow to reward with their surplus money. Do Eastsiders or beach visitors not understand he already gets $1654./month tax free while they take home only $900/mo after taxes. He should be the guy handing out the $5s — not Eastside ignorants who exit at Milpas. If police stood there we could block traffic longer to contribute toward cost for police to enforce local laws rather than be ordered to stand down..
Why would that be the case, that he would get beat up by some unknown "shinola" forces?. That current resident pan-handlers don't want the cops on their cases too? Same sense of personal assault - just more elevated in this case. Time to ban all this activity - violence against pedestrians is not free speech. Can't tell upfront who is nuts and who is just a peace and love bro panhandler, so ban the activity. There is no excuse or justification for any panhandling, particularly since it supports drug and alcohol abuse not covered by the otherwise generous social safety net provided this sub-population. group. Panhandling should not be part of this town. All of it, Everywhere. Needs to be immediately banned. It abuses our community standards.
Code 4...I wonder if he still gets to panhandle there?
I have I camped out here 7 months working at the wall I really did not consider that homeless because I was 22 working and partying. When I was back in the midwest as a juvenile in the snow then I was homeless and acouple times as an adult in the Winter cold bad weather I considered myself homeless then I have a heart just not for Criminals who aggressively panhandle people who work or worked hard for their money kids, the elderly, women, that woman did not deserve to have her hair pulled no matter what. Personally I believe the reporting party who stated the guy was assaulting a woman by pulling her hair and aggressively panhandling. I bet she was there to get food for her kids what a rotten thing to do poor woman..Your young and able bodied go to work..
If your life on the street harder than getting a job?
Yeah, you live like that for three days and then tell us it’s a good life. Heck, I give you ne night. Have a heart, please.
I was a the Habit on Milpas a few weeks ago and guy matching this description was begging from customers. He was being pretty pushy and finally the manager asked him to leave. He asked for a cup of water. The manager gave him a water cup. He pounded a couple of cups worth of soda from the machine and left the half full cup in the soda machine. Didn't even bother to throw it in the trash. While nothing really happened and this was mild interaction, it just goes to show the systemic display of anti-social behavior. I would never tolerate that kind of behavior from my kids.
I gave that AH a dollar...
Blond hair young guy? In his 20's?
Yes! He pandhandles there; then sleeps 40’ away on the 8’walkway protected underpass. The coach is removed but it remains prime tax free living space close to his corner driver-by ATM, hamburger joints and beach. Good life!
Can't find the victim so...?
Suspect walking toward Little Ceasers from McDonalds..
Victim HFA 45 Years old suspect to the front of the restaurant.