Report of 14 skaters inside Skater's Point. I wonder what they are doing? Not social distancing.
20 Juveniles at skaters point today..
Meanwhile, scientists and doctors are discussing (and publicizing) the fact that the Coronavirus may be already mutating to become even more virulent and contagious.
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There’s zero evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is becoming more virulent. The paper in question is a computational study, which has its limitations, and focuses on transmissibility. Nothing in the paper is conclusive, only suggestive. The work was a collaboration between Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) and the University of Sheffield and none of the authors have a Chinese name. As far as LANL and People's Republic of China (PRC), and the case of Wen Ho Lee that 1:50 PM is referring to, please read the information on that case and decide for yourselves. One could easily point a finger at the FBI for the numerous controversial investigations they’ve been entangled in, and I’m not even referring to anything from the past few years.
12:18: The source you quote came from the LANL, unfortunately filled with Chinese scientists and also the nuclear lab that has been found and convicted by our Intelligence oversight committees in the past to have stolen, leaked, and/or sold top secret information to the CCP. So should we keep stoking the fear and keep us all locked up in Santa Barbara because of this study, not yet reviewed by many peer groups, for, as John Wayne would say, "another 21 or 22 years"? That would be exactly what our good and trusted friends in China would want, wouldn't it? Yet another scientific study (ASU) contradicts the LANL study and says the virus is either mutating (as they always do) or becoming less virulent and contagious? Time for CHEMICALSUPERFREAK to chime in whit his thoughts.
probably just skating, not a big deal
From a former Supreme Court Justice:
“Walkers and strollers and wanderers … these activities are historically part of the amenities of life as we have known them. … These unwritten amenities have been, in part, responsible for giving our people the feeling of independence and self-confidence, the feeling of creativity.” (William O. Douglas)
From various news headlines in California:
“Beaches and Parks remain closed.”
If they really want to keep them out, forget the rented fences and fill it in with sand like they did in LA. No skater wants sand in there bearings/wheels.
ok this is a bit much...
I'm 49 and grew up skating here. Part of the powell peralta days. These kids are INSTRUCTED by their schools to do 1 hour of PE a day. But we closed our parks. We closed our skate parks. We fear monger and snitch if we see someone outside exercising. Santa Barbara has been a hub for skateboarding. We have also been a hub for harassment. Back when I was 16, they passed the no skating "downtown" laws. They pushed laws against minors, not allowing the minors to speak up and defend ourselves. I get harrassed by these asshats in red shirts simply for skating to WORK. The stigma with skate boarding is too much as well. Would you all rather these kids get into gangs and drugs? I grew up as a street skater with about 5 other guys daily. We were outside. We explored the urban settings. We played hard. We exercised hard. We stayed out until after dark and came home. The city has treated us skaters like crap for too long. We pay taxes. We vote. We raise families here. Stop treating us like criminals just because it's not something YOU do. That skate park is a massive help for our kids in this community to keep them healthy, socially healthy, mentally healthy and physically healthy. It keeps they (mostly) away from drinking and drugs and vaping and tobacco. Trust me, anyone shows up there with any toxic devices or content, they are starred down and pushed out of the park almost immediately.
Let the kids skate and stop acting like a bunch of bitter cranky 90 y/os. They are doing no harm and if anything, they are doing what they should.
Social distancing. We don't skate around and hug each other...I saw comments comparing it to shopping at Ralphs. Great comparisson as I was there yesterday on Carrillo and could NOT get anyone in there to back off. I had people in my personal space (like bumping into me to get something). I fish near the sea landing and on the wharf and have people come right NEXT to me when I am fishing. I have had to tell countless idiots to back the f' up. You have the entire wharf to stare at the ocean. I am fishing here. I am not here for your photo opp with your wife and kids from Orange COunty. So as for a group of kids skating? Leave them alone.
I don't have to cite the code because I did not hear the BOLO cite code over the scanner all I heard is what I posted so posted. If you want to make such a big deal out of everything maybe you should seek help to control those emotions. I don't have a dog don't be a dick stay out of the skate park until the fences are down.
ZERO - whether you like it or not, there IS a health order to avoid certain activities and places. The skate park was closed. Skating on the sidewalks, parking lots, etc is ok, but at this time, the park was closed. By going into a CLOSED park, they broke the "law." Pretty simple really. I agree, we should and can all be outside and exercising, but no matter what, you can't just decide to "re-open" a park closed by the City. It's illegal.
ok Roger, what "law" did these children break? Please cite the municipal code so i can cross reference it for verification. I'm calling you out because your statement insinuates that the kids were breaking a law and think they don't have to follow a "law" like the rest of the world does.
They were EXERCISING. Are you a doctor or a family member of the kids? Are you a school official? They were simply exercising and they have every right to do so. Have a nice day! I'm going to skate board and think of you all morning, along the beach. Call the cops on me, i'm going outside to exercise!
as for skating on the side walks. that's what we do. you walk your dogs on the side walk and let them use other peoples property as a toilet. we just skate by. some of us are jerks about it, yes. most of us are not. i always slow down around animals and kids and elderly, but if you're some dude with headphones on doing a faux jogging bit, i have just as much right to be on the side walk as you do. with mutual respect of course. street skating has been around since roller skates went out. we use curbs, side walks, walls, etc for tricks. we also skate things like drainage ditches and culverts as they make great ramps and bowls. IE Tea bowls and moguls above 'Cito
@194 its been ok, i just go there for bait fish, then hit the shore for halibut ;)
Agree, 95% -- the 5% is skating on the sidewalks. How is the fishing on the wharf? I miss the bait shop guy, Frank!
ZERO and ANCHOO - I totally agree, skating should be open as long as people are keeping distance. Now, if I could only get youth baseball going again! No hi-fives, wipe down the ball between innings, expanded dugouts, presto! Just kids standing 30+ feet away from each other and getting some air and having fun!
I agree with zerohawk that skaters should be allowed in the skate park as long as our hospital is expected to have plenty of space for treatment. (I don’t like skaters on the sidewalks ever, because it is unsafe for pedestrians.) Most skaters are young and less likely to die of covid. The skate park is a contained space where the rest of us don’t need to go (unlike the grocery stores). Sure, they could all pass the virus between themselves and then come out and infect me. But no scientists or politicians actually expect us to all stay home forever. The shutdown was meant to give our hospitals time to gear up, and to keep the numbers of sick manageable. I, personally, am going to be extra careful for a long time, in hopes that better treatments will be available before I venture out much. And I don’t want the hospitals overwhelmed because that hurts everyone. But we have to expect, even allow, some low level of infection to continue. The skatepark seems like a relatively low risk activity.
Funny how SOME people are expected to follow the law others make excuses and make themselves out to be victims...
The public was asked to "flatten the curve," a now trite phrase dragged out by Gavin Newsom and the other government tyrants to justify keeping everyone under house arrest. So like scared little rabbits people cowered in their homes, afraid to go out, for fear that the big, bad virus would strike them dead. Now the curve has been flattened but that's not enough for these tyrants. Now they want to crush the curve and have zero infections and zero deaths, which is impossible. You give a whiff of power to these tyrants and they will use it.
One little pinprick and all that hot air escapes from the gasbag!
Scared little rabbits
Big bad virus
Crush the Curve
Whiff of power
Geez dude who’s the fear monger?
You seem pretty out of tune with those of us who want to protect the health of our community.
First we're asked to flatten the curve. That's so successful that it inverts to be less then flat. So lets keep going and eradicate this disease! Sorry, no can do. To many cracks and crevasses to hide. So now the curve will go concave. Concavity is shaped like a pond. Shallow on the ends and deeper in the center. Which means case rates will go up to be maintained under at the flattening horizon in a controlled way. So let them skate. Take their data and trace them if you want. We NEED canaries in this coal mine to better understand the things we do not. There is no benefit to be over zealous and throw your hands up.
time to take down that silly yellow tape covering everything...especially before these high winds blows it into the ocean and chokes a sea lion, dolphin or god forbid a gray whale
Testosterone will trump good sense at least 99% of the time.
@7:39pm. Same with politics and greed
Testosterone will trump good sense at least 99% of the time, excellent thought 7:39 couldn't agree more. Those ruffians would be much better off if they adhered to that old idiom about doctor visits "an estrogen pill a day with your soy latte".
It is my business and everyone else's too...I don't vioate others and I don't like others violating me...
Seriously... so what? Skateboarding is not an activity that begs for physical closeness like hanging out on a park bench smoking a joint. Yeah, the skate park is closed but if the City was really serious they'd have dumped a couple of dump trucks worth of sand in the rink can called 'er dun.
Weird! I agreed with them and we are certainly different people so not sure why the numbers were the same. Hahaha wacky Wednesday
769 -- did you just agree with yourself?
Agree, open it up! It's not like basketball and volleyball where hands are touching the same thing... Skating is a pretty safe activity actually!
@6:38. How do you know they don't live together? What if their 6' apart? In the grocery store, you're on top of each other at times. I'll stand an wait for people to move on and clear out, but they are clueless. I'm on the let's skate side, but not in a park. Not yet. I think we're all being crazy and being way over the top. I'm however always wearing a mask when in any store or dealing with anyone not in my household. Just to make everyone feel safe because that's all it really is. It's OMG are you okay? Did I hurt your feelings? It will be okay..
6:18 - laying on the sand at the beach is ok, but not if you're laying in a group of people from other households. The supermarkets have rules, people wear masks, and are generally courteous of others' space. No need to over-exaggerate.
You know.... if tests, working and reliable tests, were available as promised weeks and weeks ago we'd be able to know who is infected and who is not. Instead the focus has shifted to jump starting the economy regardless of what the virus is doing and who cares who might be infected or not. Seems a few kids skateboarding is hardly a priority if reliable and available testing isn't.
Sometimes people get so wrapped up in the dogma they forget the reason for certain rules. Walking on the beach is okay but laying out on the sand is not. Walking around the supermarket with people going by each other with little regard for distancing or personal space is fine but skating is not. Is everyone bereft of common sense any more? Sheesh.... smh.
myob? Do not ask whom the bell tolls for, it tolls for thee. This is the business of all of us, the community. We share the consequences of such wantonness. It is our business.
Park 2 cleared them out....Kids are bought up much different in the Midwest then they are here...
They don't care if people get sick, just as long as it isn't them..
Kinda selfish really.. But alot of people are tired of all this shit and they want to get back to their lives...