Governor Announces New Stay at Home Order Based on Hospitalizations

It’s actually very simple. We can grow and eat our food. As humans we need just a few things; small protein, small fruit, and an abundance of veg.

Grow it.

SBSAND, you are so right. Thank you.

Voice, again, it's not about just ONE person lol. But go ahead and glom onto what you will...

Whooaaaaa, stop presses SBSand. If you think it was just our "great leader" who politicized Covid-19 you've had your head in the... sand.

Agreed all the way around. I've been trying to sum it up, but the extreme comments have made it hard to be objective and articulate at the same time. Thanks.

Yeah and it's mind-blowing how our great leader (NOT) made covid a political thing instead of a human thing and so his avid followers have the same mentality about how it is not real, or they are invincible or any Democrat Governor (CA is not the only state that is mad at their government for shut downs, Newsom is NOT the only one doing this) that they think is trying to restrict their rights. It is juvenile and unintelligent o say the least. The role model has shown a complete lack of common sense and his sheep have inherited it. It's mindless...

SBSAND - I couldn't have said it better myself. Absolutely 100% correct. It sickens me to see people outright refuse to wear masks or even keep distance and then in the same breath blame the liberals for this. I have friends whose families are being pulled apart by those who refuse to respect others and make the minuscule "sacrifice" to wear a mask and keep distanced from others, including their loved ones. We're witnessing the true selfishness of humanity and the prioritization of politics over public health. It is truly awful what has happened to the hearts and minds of such a large portion of our fellow humans.

Toilet paper manufacturers keep making the same amount of TP year round. And it’s not a highly-staffed facility like meat processing, so they are unlikely to be affected if workers get sick. Covid does not generally cause one to need more TP than usual. No one should hoard it. Just buy enough so you only have to shop every couple weeks. Geez.

...and people like you are the reason the shelves are empty. That is selfish and nothing more, COOLIO.

Huh. So that's where all the TP is going.

Can always take a shower after. Can never take too many showers.

Thanks. That explains why we were back to "I package of TP" per household. I was shopping for two households with disabled persons who can't shop for themselves, and had to get a manager to "approve" two six packs of TP. Maybe you could explain the need to hoard TP now, or even last March. I don't get it. But if you've got yours ......

Right on! We just might have to go primal. Thank you for being honest and raw! I’m not above using newspapers or socks either. Hell, I’d pull the curtains off the wall. (And then hose them off and wash them for the next day).
We will survive!

Nice! I’m jelly.

Oh, how I want to agree and give suggestions!

Right on! There’s nothing wrong with using leaves, newspapers or even a good shot with the hose.

I think Ed needs to open up a new forum with suggestions on how to survive during this pandemic.

Awesome! It’s nice to hear from someone who can get down to reality. Leaves, newspapers, it’s all good!

GENERAL TREE wine for me!!! Lol. I figure I have lots of socks I can use too, and old rags. Ick.

I'll use leaves I don't care as long as we can still get beer.

Agreed, and looking at the # of remaining ICU beds available it wouldn't take long to be at capacity here.

Methinks thou protests too much. If things don't change, and they haven't in 9 months, the "Doomsday predictions" will come true, and those 43 beds will be occupied. The "wishful thinking" strategy cost Trump the election, as well as 270,000 lives, headed towards 400,000+ by Inaugural Day. I have never understood why opening bars was ever a good idea. Biden asked us to wear masks for 100 straight days, to coincide with his first 100 days. I've been wearing one for 240 days so far, another 100-200 or more doesn't bother me. Just think of the person you love most on a vent, that's what motivates me, and since you know what that's like, you should, too.

And Basic Info, if you've worked in an ICU you might realize that being days away from being at 85 % capacity average across the southern California region isn't small potatoes. I believe you were one of those that were pushing hydroxychloroquin.

Basic info has a basic medical degree. I'm currently watching a piece about a hospital with 18 icu beds experiencing 4 covid deaths every 12 hours.

General says - "about 43 left". That's a lot dude. You ever been to an ICU? I have because I've worked in one and also been admitted to one, and they're always small. ICUs don't run hendreds of beds buddy. Cottage hasn't come close to maxing out on beds, and they have a plan in case they might. Take a big breath and calm down.

I see a lot of comments here from people who have no clue about hospitals and what's happening. Doomsday predictions right and left. We ARE wearing masks. Yes there are some folks blowing it, as they have been from the start, but this "911 catastrophe" attitude that people are dropping here is just over the top.

The biggest catastrophe is our economy and our kids' education. He governor and the teachers are absolutely floundering.

ICU beds in SB County are at capacity - about 43 left. The # of cases are on the increate here. With cases rising here, and patients being sent here from hospitals at capacity could put the county at or over capacity very quickly. It's called math.

Hell yeah!

I'm definitely glad alcohol will be available.

GT - looking back at it, I may have misinterpreted your comment.

Sacjon - when and where did I say or suggest Bevmo should be closed?

GENERALTREE - why shouldn't Bevmo be open? Grocery and retail stores are still going to be open.

You can be sure I picked up my local wine shipment this week!

Absolutely! BY GETTING TAKEOUT. Don't be stupid.

Sb Barbarian: "If the Governor wants to cheat and put his family at risk, that is up to him" why is it okay for him to decide what risks are acceptable to him and his family but not the public? When he has access to all the best information and advisors, he still determined it wasn't a significant risk to his family to dine INDOORS, in close contact with several other households, without masks. But now he's going to shutdown OUTDOOR dining because outdoor dinning is too big a risk/vector?

What Newsome does personally, though hypocritical, does not change the science. His behavior was bad, but just using one transgression, albeit not helpful, to excuse not complying is like comparing apples to oranges. If the Governor wants to cheat and put his family at risk, that is up to him. I do not, so I do the minimum - I only go out to shop and for meds, I wear a mask, I socially distance, I wash my hands, and beat back "but I haven't seen you in forever" from my 96 year old mom whom I haven't seen in 9 months, for her protection. Wear a mask in public and do the other easy stuff and hang on for a few more months until a vaccine can be introduced. It won't be an instantaneous magic bullet, but in time, the virus will be "starved to death". With the cooperation of everyone, next Thanksgiving could be a normal holiday again, and not a super spreader event. Xmas this year, combined with New Year, are going to cap off a nightmarish year with a bang, and there will be a huge surge happening during the Inauguration. Hopefully, it will be the last huge surge, among many, starting with Memorial Day this year.

For sure!
LA needs to split

That's probably an LA deal smonk. So don't go there, or to the funk zone. Avoid clowns that look like they've just driven up from LA.

Public Health announced they expect shut down in 48 hours.

State health officials are expecting this region to hit the ICU threshold this week prompting a lockdown.

Did you read the announcement? Nothing is shut down yet. We haven't hit the criteria.

@ 2:22 : It's nice to know you've identified the source of <all> the spread. But then, you aren't interested in accuracy, just polemics. And that should be "you're", not "your".