Transients Assault Family on State Street

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Report of 10 subjects fighting in the 700 block of State Street, possibly a group of transients assaulted a family.

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a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 08:27 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

Noozhawk is silent about this incident. Independent is silent about this incident. NewsPress is silent about this incident. KEYT is silent about this incident. Thank you Roger and edhat for being on the front lines, without fear or favor.

Roger Feb 27, 2020 02:06 PM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

I liked the old News Press better with John Lankford, Barney, Dawn Hobbs, Dawn was beginning to release more crime news through the paper something Santa Barbara never wanted it wasn't political to me it's about people. I want to know what the hell is going on in Santa Barbara I want to be forewarned before I get attacked on the street. I don't have to be forewarned now the danger is there I must be prepared to D-Fens myself in some way if need be. The News Press would be my paper too if it walked it's talk "Without favor from Friend or Foe."

a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 12:58 PM
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Now the NewsPress is my paper, along with plenty others in town who still support a daily delivery paper - Be careful thinking the progressive agenda is normative. It is not. You got stuck in a Democrat echo chamber for too long in this town.

a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 01:03 PM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

It is the fault of ACLU as well as prior spineless city councils, who all waltzed off after term limits, picked up their city pensions and left us now with their messes to clean up. ACLU is no longer noble human rights operation - it is venal partisan operation spreading urban terror that is taking ovet too many parts of our lives today. You err, violating codes of human conduct as set out in our mutual compacts with each other is illegal. Plus every human has a duty to first provide legally. for their own food and shelter. We don't own them these fundamental human duties; they owe us to get it done on their own. Cry me a river if a "homeless" person cannot find housing in one of the most expensive locations in California.

biguglystick Feb 27, 2020 09:50 AM
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People do have rights, even the homeless. The ACLU is there for a good reason. Just because a person is homeless doesn't mean they are a pariah or less than human. There are "some very good people" (to quote a fat corrupt orange politician) that are homeless for reasons beyond their control. There are also some very bad people on the streets. Yes, we have a problem. Blaming the ACLU for sticking up for human rights doesn't help a thing.

NostraChumash Feb 27, 2020 08:22 AM
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I presented a "tent city" design to mayor Schneider..all legal & compassionate, & would have/ still would, work.. But, it was denied without review..why? No $$ in the cure, only profit in the treatment. Boo SB gov!

Chip of SB Feb 27, 2020 08:15 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

This story reminds me of the fatal stabbing that happened on the Ventura pier a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, I think yesterday's incident shows that it is only a matter of time until someone gets killed in Santa Barbara. Stay away from downtown, it's just not safe to be there anymore! https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ventura-stabbing-police-tactics-20180424-htmlstory.html

biguglystick Feb 27, 2020 09:52 AM
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Precisely my point, Roger. Not all homeless people are bad. That gazebo killing done by two prep school students from well off families.

Roger Feb 27, 2020 09:07 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

You can look this guy up he is on our eternal Death Row He attacked 3 Women in Santa Barbara one night in Santa Barbara killing two disabling a third. Theodore Wrest March 6th 1987. I was so scared when I heard about it because I worked in the mailroom at the News Press for Manpower and I had to cross right through the area of the funeral home and Our Lady of Sorrows where the attack occurred, the suspect was a Transient...I think it was a year before that or so when Michael Stephenson was attacked and Murdered in Alameda Parks Gazebo Michael was homeless and he was a very nice person he was brutally murdered by two students of a prep school on West Mission. One of the attackers has been paroled and is a christian preacher now the other is doing life. It goes both ways...

Roger Feb 27, 2020 08:28 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

People have been killed in Santa Barbara at least 2 I know of through the years I have been here probably more, The old man at McDonalds Downtown. and Cindy Cater on West Carrillo about 30 years ago.

Coolio Feb 27, 2020 07:33 AM
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Time to have signs up on State Street warning the public any interaction with the homeless is dangerous and should be avoided.

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 27, 2020 07:31 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

If anyone is confused by the lack of leadership on this issue, no need to look too far for a reason. Cathy Murillo is the reason. You elected an inept, divisive, inexperienced, financially ignorant idiot to oversee a city dangling on the precipice of bankruptcy. One that is quickly becoming a city overrun by derelicts and do-nothings. She has proven herself to be the “Worst Mayor in SB’s history”. Please send her packing. We need an experienced and capable leader to help guide us forward. Not a ‘wet noodle’ who couldn’t lead a pack of dogs out of the county shelter.

jqb Feb 27, 2020 02:07 PM
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"Please send her packing" -- Well, you can do so by voting for her in the March 3 election. If she wins the seat she is running for, she will no longer be mayor. If she loses, she will still be mayor.

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 27, 2020 09:11 AM
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Agreed. The fact that this small city is ruled by a national political party is disgusting. Murillo has no business being a mayor of a city with a annual budget of $350,000,000 when she has never managed a P/L or even overseen a budget or staff of any size. But she is easy to manipulate and being an abject moron, she made her a very good choice for the public employee unions. We need leadership that actually understands finance and has held business management roles - actual private enterprise experience. That is where tough decisions are made for the betterment of the whole. Where funds and resources are limited and survival requires strength, foresight and clear understanding of the challenges. Murillo thinks the city's a jobs program for families. She is so beyond inept its embarrassing. No wonder the union bosses want her in the roll. The last person they want is an actual, experienced business leader who understands how to cut fat and build for the future. After all, holding people responsible is the downfall of any bureaucracy and a nightmare for the mediocrity that thrives in such an org.

a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 08:14 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

Remind yourself we had very excellent alternative choices for mayor on the ballot in the last election, yet the city employee unions ganged up and made sure Murillo got elected. Local voters simply must break up the power of the city employee unions now exert over us with their poltiical war chests and disciplined election day strategies. It all starts with the Democrat Central Committee backing one candidate early in the game and then include the Independent's poltiical endorsements acting as their all too willing hand-maidens. Though even the Independent could not bring themselves to endorse Murllio this last time, which proves this was solely the work of the public employee unions and the local Democrat party that got her elected. Voters, don't let these very narrow special interests who only back easily manipulated Democrats, do this to us again. Look at your current city council - Murillo and friends made sure she got in additional willing, know nothing tools to carry out the public employee union agendas.

SBLetsGetAlong Feb 27, 2020 07:20 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

CA has no excuse. SB has no excuse. Since the 80s there have been several “collaborative initiatives “ with the county and surrounding cities. The priority in each of those has been housing first. So why after 40 years of “housing first” are there not enough shelters? Why is it that transient housing is built in the downtown corridor? Why has no one built a tent city on government land to house people in need? Why does the govt spend hundreds of thousands to millions in grant monies to research why people are homeless? Why not build housing/temporary shelters. Take land off Cathedral Oaks, build a tent city, bring in mobile building for a club house, medical building. Cottage could provide regular health/mental care there and people could receive three square meals/day. All homeless are not the same, except that they don’t have a roof over their heads. Those homeless that are mentally ill or will never be productive members of society should not be housed downtown and should not be allowed to interfere with law abiding, hard working citizens. Why do people think it’s a “right” to live in SB? It’s not, go where you can afford to live. Over half of the homeless pop is not from SB, they are transients who cone here for the weather, nice people and to be left alone. Problem is they’ve been overrunning SB and the services . Bottom line, laws should be enforced. To not enforce the laws unilaterally is discrimination. If a transient can piss on the street, park wherever they want, squat, drink or do drugs in public then why can’t everyone. Why do I get a ticket fir pissing in the street after going to the bowl, but ate anise the doesn’t? Discrimination. Bottom line, govt knows how to help, yet they choose to put money in researchers pockets despite knowing the answer for 4 decades. Bottom line, the lack of enforcing laws and high tolerance has attracted numerous more transients. Bottom line, this town is a San Fran, Seattle or LA.

a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 02:18 PM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

Back to the modern way to look at this issue: different solutions for different sub-population groups: (1) the have nots; (2) the can nots; (3) the will nots. Have nots already covered by very generous welfare safety net; can nots need to be placed in state care institutions; the will nots are 80% of the remaining problem -, they have skills and mental capacity, so it is either jail or lock down work camps.

a-1585581181 Feb 26, 2020 09:30 PM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

The SB Public Library hired a private security firm to protect the library and library users. It is an entirely different there now, and when someone gets weird, several people show up and deal with it, not the library staff. Perhaps the City needs to hire this security company to police downtown so we can feel save there. It is getting down right strange and uncomfortable there. It would be terrifying to be physically attacked, and to watch a gang pick on a family.

biguglystick Feb 27, 2020 09:57 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

BINGO! This is the police's job, but it doesn't bring in revenue for them and it's unpleasant, so they ignore it. They'd much rather pop DUIs. Shame. SB Police: DO YOUR JOB.

biguglystick Feb 27, 2020 09:56 AM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

Well the city certainly has enough money to do that! One look at the inept and inane projects I've seen downtown over the years and the salaries of city employees show us that. City staffers with $100k a year pay and we STILL have potholes everywhere. The city spends a stupid amount of money on those dumb "ambassadors" in the red vests for tourists (BIGGEST PATHETIC WASTE OF MONEY I'VE EVER SEEN!) and yet there is open storefronts everywhere due to greedy landlords and out of state owners and a massive homeless problem. THE CITY needs to deal with this and fire all those stupid ambassadors.

Roger Feb 26, 2020 05:35 PM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

A source on scene told me that the family was attacked because a young boy in the family offered to buy a Transient an ice cream. The Transient went mentally violent on the kid. So it wasn't a fight between Transients at all it was an attack on a young man who offered to buy a Transient an ice cream. The family was attacked a woman suffered a head injury as she had a gash to her head. Eight Transients were involved according to my source. That is what I got.

giftedinSB Feb 26, 2020 07:45 PM
Transients Assault Family on State Street

Gosh, I was hoping there weren’t any kids involved... This is terrible. A young kid trying to do something nice for a bum, and the bum goes crazy on the poor kid. We have got to do something to get these vagrants off the street. How many people have to get hurt by these bums before we clean up our city? And yet, nothing will be done except our politicians asking for yet even more funding for the homeless.

yin yang Feb 26, 2020 08:34 PM
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Good to know you too, Roger, post anonymously even if by accident. I did so the other day, accidentally, clicked the hide handle button when I had no intention to, was just clicking the send button.

a-1585581181 Feb 26, 2020 08:27 PM
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I see your point CW gets me riled up because I'm poor and screwed up was on the streets and I'm not a bad person, there are others like myself that don't cause problems I don't like seeing the truely sick get the blame. Many get robbed and beaten for their money or possessions too some of the homeless and poor are republicans also..I personally believe in frontier justice I'm kinda like in the middle Arnold screwed up the budget a bit too I think they all do.. Homeless Inc don't help the homeless all that much..By the way read somewhere the kid was a grand child he and his grandparents were attacked his grandmother has a head injury I don't like the scum that did that either...

a-1585581181 Feb 26, 2020 06:29 PM
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Roger, who has been in charge of this state after 2004, when voters agreed to tax themselves to get mentally impaired people off the streets? The problem has grown immensely from 2004 forward - did this new posst 2004 MHSA money pay for hiring more government employees, who now need an ever growing numbers of street cases just to keep their own jobs secure? Because it never got spent reducing this street population. Voters in this state stood up and said we want this to change (during the Gov. Schwarzenegger days) Billions of new tax dollars have been raised since 2004. Where did that money go and whose policies grew the street population after Schwarzenegger left office in 2008, and the Gov Jerry Brown Democrats got a super-majority in the state legislature who got to spend this new money,

Roger Feb 26, 2020 05:52 PM
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Sounds like according to you all of the homeless, the poor and the democrats are at fault..I remember when there were more republicans than democrats on the city council and they did not do nothing about this issue either...

a-1585581181 Feb 26, 2020 04:57 PM
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How many people here are willing to pay an increase in their taxes to house these (and more) transients? How come they are called homeless until they get caught in criminal activities in which case they become 'transients'?

a-1585581181 Feb 26, 2020 06:21 PM
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We already agreed in 2004 to "tax ourselves" to get mentally impaired persons off the streets. What happened to that tax money raised every year - over 15 years ago? From Cal.gov: ...."The passage of Proposition 63 (now known as the Mental Health Services Act or MHSA) in November 2004, provides the first opportunity in many years for the California Department of Mental Health (DMH) to provide increased funding, personnel and other resources to support county mental health programs and monitor progress toward statewide goals for children, transition age youth, adults, older adults and families. The Act addresses a broad continuum of prevention, early intervention and service needs and the necessary infrastructure, technology and training elements that will effectively support this system. This Act imposes a 1% income tax on personal income in excess of $1 million. Statewide, the Act was projected to generate approximately $254 million in fiscal year 2004-05, $683 million in 2005-06 and increasing amounts thereafter. Much of the funding will be provided to county mental health programs to fund programs consistent with their local plans. .."

Roger Feb 26, 2020 05:13 PM
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The police call all of the homeless Transients. I have other names I can call people who attack and beat on families weather they are homeless or not but cannot say them here. I usually call people who are homeless, Homeless folk, unless they are a%%holes then I call them Transients.

Roger Feb 26, 2020 04:45 PM
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I heard 4 were transported to jail one a female but one was a pick up from the police station so maybe 3 from the fight Roger Out.

Chip of SB Feb 26, 2020 04:14 PM
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This is going to become more and more common as conditions deteriorate downtown. I would suggest avoiding areas that are occupied by drug addicts and the mentally ill. In particular, I would strongly suggest keeping children away from the downtown area. The sight of people suffering and living in filth on the street is extremely disturbing for young eyes. Finally, I would like to remind everyone of the risk of being exposed to disease. Drug addicts and the mentally ill live in filthy unsanitary conditions and are unable to care for themselves. Diseases spread rapidly among this population, and this could become an acute problem as the corona virus begins spreading in the US. It is starting to feel more and more like we are living in some kind of zombie apocalypse...

biguglystick Feb 27, 2020 10:01 AM
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"Full powers of the EPA"?! HAHAHAHA! You mean the EPA that Trump has entirely gutted and filled with big oil men? FAT CHANCE. Trump is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country and if people can't see that they are blind or stupid or both.

ZeroHawk Feb 27, 2020 09:55 AM
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Chip, i live downtown. this posts are a bit over the top. when i say i live downtown, i'm 2 blocks west from State and Ortega. So on a walk, downtown is in our walking area, my kids and I frequent downtown almost daily/nightly. Just like any town or city, there are homeless, drunks, etc. We are no different than any other place. Downtown is safe. One incident like this isn't a call for everyone to be fearful. I feel safe downtown and so do my kids and our neighbors and their kids etc. Let's not jump on the hysteria band wagon. Downtown may be boring AF now, with few shops and shuttered doors, but it's safe. No matter where you go, you should always be aware and vigilant. Whether it's santa barbara or maybury.

Alexblue Feb 27, 2020 09:20 AM
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"Trump said". HAHAHAHAHAHAH!! His administration never came up with nor did they present a plan of any kind. How can you expect people to agree to work on a plan together if there is no plan to work on. Salud Carbajal never said he would not work with Donald Trump on the homeless issue. Trump just did what he always does, puffed up his fat face and slammed his tiny fists on a lectern and "said" he was going to do something with the real goal being getting his supporters fired up, not actually fixing the problem. and then he never did it. Just like always. When will the suckers in this country figure out they have been conned by Don.

a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 07:59 AM
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Trump came to California and said he would use the full powers of the EPA to clean up these toxic vagrant camps unless the state and cities did something about their environmental degradation. Salud Carbajal, who claims he protects the environment did nothing and said nothing when the EPA option was put on the table. Nothing. It was his time to extend his support and prove he actually does care about the environment, pollution, toxic waste and ocean runoff degradation. Instead he comes up with some flunkie window-dressing prohibition against drilling on federal lands.

a-1585581181 Feb 27, 2020 07:55 AM
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Our city council is intended to be non-partisan. Party politics should play no role in local decision making, or even voter choice. So which political party locally needs to bow out of city decision making? Problem today is the Democrat party became the party of the public employee unions, and everything went downhill after that. Bloated hiring, bloated salaries and benefits, under-funded budgets, increased taxes, declining public services and failing infrastructure - that is what happened after the Democrat Party and the public sector unions went to bed togehter permanently a few decades ago in this state. You can thank the Democrat Party take-over by the public sector unions for all of this, and no one else. You can track this history right here in this city and the make-up of the city council majorities that did this to us. In the future, voters need to reject all Democrat and public employee candidates backed by public sector union money and endorsements as the very first step and get all our local boards, including our school boards, back to being independent, community oriented and non-partisan. Do not vote based upon your Democrat party endorsement handout lists. In fact, vote just the opposite until we get this incestuous Democrat-public sector union connection cleaned out of local politics permanently. To all candidates who continue to take Democrat party and public sector money, endorsements and support, take a pledge. you will recuse yourself from any voting that impacts any of these self-interested partisan groups. You will recuse yourself from any collective bargaining with those public sector groups, and their surrogate groups who sit on the other side of the bargaining table spending our tax dollars. That is how you take special partisan interests out of non-partisan local politics. Take away the special interest incentives to support certain candidates. We currently have elected council majorities spending our money, who are totally doing the bidding only of those very same public sector unions and their members who made sure they got elected for their own benefit. This must end. Voters, this is in your hands.

sbmh2015 Feb 26, 2020 08:56 PM
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Exactly. The trumpublicans refuse to work with anyone who doesn't now down to trump. Absolutely absolutely refuse. We need to fix the problem in this town without them

Alexblue Feb 26, 2020 05:57 PM
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Hey 150, your ignorance is painful. Trump's administration never offered a plan to do anything about homelessness. There is no opportunity to work together if there is no plan. They said they would release a plan and Trump "threatened" to "take over" and "fix it", but of course his threats just like his promises are just vapor. So, yeah, please explain how it's possible to refuse to work together when there's no plan to work together being offered. Please provide a source that Carbajal ever refused to work with Trump to solve homelessness. Not even in your alternate universe does that exist.

a-1585581181 Feb 26, 2020 04:42 PM
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Thank goodness this street population won't be exposed to fracking or plastic straws. Why did our Congressman Salud Carbajal turn down an opportunity to work with the Trump administration to solve this problem? What are Monique Limon and Hannah-Beth Jackson finally doing with the Mental Health Services Act (MHSA) billions of dollars that voters have already raised for years? Are they on board now with Gov Newsom, who wants to make it easier to place those with mental impairments into state funded care settings?

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