Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

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I recently saw a Facebook post from a local business that included a photo of an alleged shoplifter. It's a teenager from a local high school, they posted a photo of his face and his school ID card with the full name.

I'm curious if readers think this is appropriate given the teen is underage. 

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Thomas John Dec 02, 2022 03:30 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Looks like the skate shop pulled down the facebook post. I guess they had a change of heart..... or an email from the kids parents' lawyer.

Babycakes Dec 02, 2022 03:46 PM
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ThomasJohn: I am glad that the post is down, whether it was "forced" or not. N. early a hundred comments on this story. My belief is that the posting of this story here, although completely valid and legal, only added to the woes of this wayward teen. 25 years ago, a story like this would never have made it to the general public. With the magic of the modern age, this kid has been crucified, and in this particular online forum, thousands more know about his misdeeds. Compared to the available online videos of beheadings, executions, bashings, thrashings, and worse, this was and is a "nothing burger." Prurient interest....we are drawn to it like moths to the fire. Be good my people. Namaste to my brothers and sisters and those who don't identify as either...we are all equal in the eyes of whoever is in charge of this thing we call humanity. It should not be this exhausting to walk the walk after talking the talk.

ZeroHawk Dec 02, 2022 10:06 AM
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look, i grew up skating here. i have connections to skate shops, factories, reps, etc. Stealing is dumb and wrong. Kids can and will make mistakes and often dumb ones. I did, and I'm sure all of you did as well while growing up and learning. But snapping a pic of a minor and posting it online is wrong on so many levels and kinda creepy too.
So what did the kid steal? Nothing. But yet he was harassed, humiliated and his info posted online for the world to see and you don't think that's extreme, and or just flat out wrong? I've cut my ties to this skate shop and they won't see another dime from my family. Simple as that. I'm sure the kids dad dealt with him, and I'm more than sure he will be dealing with the skate shop as well.

BufordNgoleta Dec 02, 2022 07:14 AM
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Seabird - do you drive a "deadly weapon" too? Not that vigilante actions are right, but when our goverment "leaders" send an unmistakeable message that theft is OK in our society, and back that up with directives to law enforcement, just what do you think is going to happen? We just had an election and we really blew it didn't we? Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

fitz Dec 01, 2022 08:56 PM
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This is such an interesting thread to read. Social media has created a whole different playing field which I do not yet understand. And it can be so ugly. But reading this carried me back decades.....because many of the comments reflect 'back in the day' value systems. We think we are so evolved. I bet most of the commentators are over 60. that is the vibe I am getting. For me, it is refreshing. It's apolitical. No accusations of 'woke'/unwoke' (whatever all that means).

a-1670099942 Dec 03, 2022 12:39 PM
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"the youth"
Like, the yutes?
I can't tell what mindset your post is coming from!

a-1669998701 Dec 02, 2022 08:31 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

You are really disconnected from the youth if you think anyone but Fox News watching 60+ year olds is using the term "woke" anymore.

edney Dec 01, 2022 06:43 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Kid just learned a life lesson the easy way. When you initiate a bad behavior like theft, you do not control the outcome. Mommy and Daddy enabling this behavior will make it worse

edney Dec 01, 2022 02:21 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Defamation?
No way.
Definition:
the action of damaging the good reputation of someone; slander or libel.

The kid was caught stealing. How can his good reputation be defamed by saying he was caught stealing, if he did in fact steal?

Kids need to be taught they are born with good reputation, good reputation is put into play by stealing, and when caught stealing, often the consequences can spin out of control. Parents of the friends of this young man should counsel their children about this event. Let's say the store owner tries to grab the stolen item, gets pushed by the thief, falls, hits his head goes into a coma and your kid gives the thief a ride home. Accessory. Or if your child is the thief, a push over $50 theft turns into assault with great bodily injury. A 14-15 year old can rebuild their reputation quickly by learning the lesson, taking the consequence, understanding that they took the risk of an unjust consequence upon themself by putting themself into play. IE: Do stupid crap, win crappy prizes

snicker Dec 02, 2022 12:29 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Hey Edney the Clown, don't they teach you about "innocent until proven guilty" in clown school? Or does that only apply to Big Tent clowns like Brett Kavanaugh? The kid hasn't been convicted of a crime, therefore saying that he committed one is legally defamation.

sacjon Dec 02, 2022 09:32 AM
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EDNEY - that's not what the definition of defamation is. If he didn't actually steal anything (entirely possible was a misunderstanding - it happened to me as a kid putting my headphones back into my backpack) and they posted a false statement, then it's defamation since he's now suffered injury to his reputation.

a-1669998617 Dec 02, 2022 08:30 AM
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If they do not have video proof of the kid stealing, they are up a liability creek here if the parents choose to sue. We don't know the circumstances of the *alleged* attempt to steal. There's also the issue of if they caught him inside or outside of the store. If inside, that's a big problem, legally, because technically one hasn't stolen until they leave the premises with product. Lighthouse better hope their cameras caught evidence and they did everything by the book, otherwise they are looking at a settlement here for what they've written. Must be provable.

edney Dec 01, 2022 08:49 PM
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You are aware that you can find young people in jail and prison that were involved in what started out as minor crimes that went off the rails and sideways?
Hypothetical or not, the god of unintended consequences gets the last cackling laugh and could give a damn about your circumstances

Lucky 777 Dec 01, 2022 12:27 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

In our woke state thefts under the $950 threshold in value are barely meted out a slap on the wrist, even for "adults", and as was noted the 152-mile-an-hour Lamborghini driver on the 154 was not arrested, his car was NOT impounded.... he drove away with impunity. Seriously, do you fault a shop owner for wanting some vigilante justice?

snicker Dec 02, 2022 12:33 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

"Law and order" clowns are all in for lawless disorderly vigilante justice!

snicker Dec 02, 2022 12:31 PM
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Hey there, Pat the Clown! Mike Godwin, the "Godwin's Law" guy, wrote something about you! https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

sacjon Dec 01, 2022 12:40 PM
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LUCKY777 - if convicted, he wasn't. He wasn't even charged it seems. "Woke" lol. You people use this like its an insult to be compassionate, aware of the plight of others, not racist/homophobic, etc. Weird to be proud that you're not these things.

a-1669924252 Dec 01, 2022 11:50 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

How many suspect the boy's parents posted this forum asking for advice before they decide to sue?

Babycakes Dec 01, 2022 11:36 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

This story and Ehatter reactions about this kid trying to rip off the skate store r-e-m-i-n-d-s me of when John "The Palm" Palminteri shoved that kid out of the camera shot. Some thought The Palm was abusive, where others (like me) thought the kid should not have tried to get into John P's face. The kid and his parents were very/very apologetic for the whole matter. Bottom line is that the "camera jumper" realized that he did something wrong and learned a good lesson. I will assume that the thief from the skate store will forever be reminded by his classmates about his brush with infamy. The store on the other hand won a victory of sorts from the general public for not putting up with the nonsense that other businesses decided to put up with. Unfortunately, the shoplifter is going to pay a hefty price for some years to come, and hopefully will turn his life around and refrain from his "five-finger discount" practices.

Babycakes Dec 02, 2022 08:53 AM
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Good point for sure, but better to ask, "Why was this kid stealing, where else has he stolen from, and does he have some sort of "condition" that compels him to steal all the time?" I don't have the answers as I do not know the background of this young person. I can tell you though that those who have problems with stealing need help and support, otherwise they may end up in jail/prison for a long time. I believe that we can all show some compassion for this young person and hope he "turns a corner" to a better and more socially acceptable lifestyle. My prayers and thoughts are with his parents/guardians in that they actually seek professional help and assistance. Lesson learned....I think (hope!).

a-1669998398 Dec 02, 2022 08:26 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Why am I not surprised to see you support violence as long as YOU see a fit cause?

CloudsInSky Dec 01, 2022 11:27 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

I wonder if the OP, with a link to this boy's school ID and a sad photo of him sitting on ground, has done more harm than the store owners? How many people outside of the skating community would have EVER looked at their Facebook account ? Edhat never should have published this.

a-1669998338 Dec 02, 2022 08:25 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

I agree, there was no need to include the link. At least it wasn't a screenshot that would stay after the post was deleted, but still. Bad call on all sides.

sacjon Dec 01, 2022 11:10 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Looks like they deleted the post. Good. Unfortunately, a little too late. I truly hope they learned a valuable lesson here. Posting photos and names of minors who are suspected of attempted shoplifting (they said he tried, not that he did) on the internet is not only unethical, it's bad business.

LoveMySB Dec 01, 2022 10:45 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Maybe they should shame the parents instead for not teaching their children to be better citizens like don't take things that don't belong to you. It's a crime. Maybe this will prevent this kid from becoming a career criminal. The kid needs to know there are consequences to his behavior. Community service of some kind. IMO a lot of parents are not being parents these days because they are either to busy or instead they are trying to be friends with their kids so there is no parental guidance.

sacjon Dec 01, 2022 11:47 AM
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NUKE - "Not all 14 year-olds have loving, caring parents." - True, but that seems even more reason to not publicly and permanently (eg, posting on the internet) shame them. Call the cops and let them handle it, don't harm a young teen even more.

Nuke Dec 01, 2022 11:34 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Most agree that this should have been handled by the shop owner and police letting the parents deal with it. However, too many kids have parents who really don't give a damn about their kid's behavior and either ignore it altogether or choose to beat the crap out of the kid. Not all 14 year-olds have loving, caring parents.

sacjon Dec 01, 2022 11:05 AM
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LOVEMYSB - Sometimes, kids, even well raised ones, fall into the wrong crowd and do stupid things. Parents can't, especially with young teens like this, follow their kids around 24/7 making sure they're not making mistakes. It's not always the parents fault. The fault here lies with the young teenager, but it doesn't mean he should be permanently shamed on the internet as is now happening.

Seabird Dec 01, 2022 08:52 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

Lighthouse Skate Shop co-owner Spencer James Navarro was convicted of speeding in 2019, according to public court records. Speeding behind the wheel of a deadly weapon is irresponsible, illegal, and a danger to life and property. That is ALSO public information. Weird.

TJTom Dec 01, 2022 07:49 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

I don't have a problem with the shaming. Do the deed and you suffer the consequences. I'll bet the police wouldn't even show up if the store owner called them.

Stray Dec 01, 2022 07:26 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

What kind of society tolerates the publishing of a minor's photo and identification for an alleged shoplifting and keeps confidential the photo and identity of the adult who allegedly drove his Lamborghini 152 mph on Highway 154? Just askin' about our priorities here......

100572P Dec 01, 2022 10:44 AM
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the same kind that will prosecute him as an adult for more serious crimes.

Seabird Dec 01, 2022 08:44 AM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

On point. All the folks condoning public shaming of a 14-year old ALLEGED shoplifter, we don't hear you making much a fuss when adult identities are protected.

a-1669904576 Dec 01, 2022 06:22 AM
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Online shaming may be the only way with this generation. Do the crime, expect face time.

a-1669908629 Dec 01, 2022 07:30 AM
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No. Call the police, call the parents, admonish the kid and let him go...or get over it. Perpetual punishment (the internet is forever! And Google-able...) is not the answer. I think it is cruel and unusual punishment. This is why they got rid of public mugshots in CA, it's not right to societally punish someone permanently.

Mebk Dec 01, 2022 05:34 AM
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As a small business owner I get what they were trying to do. Get the word out don’t steal from us.we basically catch 1/2 of out thiefs. We call the police. This is a huge problem not only teens but adults. Most are not remorseful just pissed they get caught. This boy has learned his lesson and hopefully stops others from ripping off that store.

Seabird Nov 30, 2022 09:25 PM
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What the store owner doesn't seem to realize is the power of social media to literally ruin lives. This kid (allegedly) did a stupid thing, but 100x more stupid is posting his PHOTO ID on social media. It's been shared dozens of times and this is a small town. As a parent, I truly hope they are sued and literally lose their business. A 14-year old kid is careless, but adults should not be this stupid.

Alexblue Nov 30, 2022 07:37 PM
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Yeah, not god to put his face out there publicly. Talk to the cops, talk to the parents, figure out a way for the kids to make amends and learn from it and become a better person.

a-1670099237 Dec 03, 2022 12:27 PM
Shaming of Teen Shoplifter?

But I'll bet some who agree with ParvoPup's post truly agree that public stocks are a good thing...

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