Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

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Source: Santa Barbara Mayor Cathy Murillo

The city of Santa Barbara is processing two street renaming proposals, came in at the same time coincidentally. Details below.

Barbareno Chumash Tribal Council wants to change Indio Muerto to Hutash, which means Mother Earth.

The second application aims to honor Dolores Huerta by renaming San Andres to Calle Dolores Huerta.

The Neighborhood Advisory Council will make recommendations to City Council.

Send City your opinion: [email protected]

1. Rename Indio Muerto to “Hutash” :

Neighborhood Advisory Council: this item will be heard by the Neighborhood Advisory Council on August 10 at 6:00 pm.

Public Participation: those wishing to give public comment at the meeting can register with GotoWebinar at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/7475561273521910285 -Webinar ID - 347-086-347

This registration information will also be printed on the meeting agenda.

2. Rename San Andres Street to Calle Dolores Huerta:

Neighborhood Advisory Council: this item will be heard by the Neighborhood Advisory Council on August 24 at 6:00 pm.

Public Participation: those wishing to give public comment at the meeting can register with GotoWebinar at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/5238734609519318544 - Webinar ID 791-451-947

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420722 Aug 11, 2020 01:26 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

I’ve spoken to some residents and they don’t want it. They’ve even posted signs around the neighborhood that say NO. If you want to change a name, change your own name.

PitMix Aug 11, 2020 01:38 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

I've spoken to other residents and they are for it. They've obeyed sign laws and haven't posted any illegal signage about it, but feel strongly about it. But thanks for the suggestion to change our names, we will consider it seriously.

a-1597179234 Aug 11, 2020 01:53 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Out here , government listens to constituents. And if they don't, the representatives don't get reelected, refreshingly different. It's more work, but it doesn't take more time.

a-1597181215 Aug 11, 2020 02:26 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Goleta employee unions don't yet have the entrenched history like they do in Santa Barbara. Give it a few more years and you city employee unions will own you too, Goleta.

RHS Aug 11, 2020 06:55 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Survey Monkey captures and uses data from its participants. It should never be used by public agencies who we hope will protect the privacy of the people.

Lucky 777 Aug 11, 2020 02:25 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

This is a horrible idea, will be a big hardship to the people in the neighborhood, and is pandering to the emotionality of the moment.

Get did of Indio Muerto if you must and think of it as a successful compromise.

SantaBarbaraObserver Aug 12, 2020 06:10 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

I am curious since you know a lot about Serra. Did he also rape boys during his time at the SB Mission as so many of his disciples have over the decades since?

Ahchooo Aug 12, 2020 06:44 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Oh, okay 5:36 PM, lets keep APS. I still don’t want to change get San Andrés, even if the man wasn’t a “true” saint. Let’s find a park or some other good place to honor Dolores Huerta.

REX OF SB Aug 11, 2020 04:57 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

DOULIE: Mrs. Costantino was around the corner on Micheltorena Street, but I'm sure she wouldn't have been happy about it either. And you forgot Mr. Costelo. FUN FACT: Mr. Souza's wife and I shared the same birthday. That said, in no way is changing the street name a good idea.

a-1597189925 Aug 11, 2020 04:52 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

KOHN1 - what if I had a restaurant called "Hitler's BBQ?" How would you feel about a name change then? Or, if our city had an old street called "Midget Lynching Lane?" Maybe need a change? Hey, my name and my friends name, when combined, would be a great name for a cafe. I'm guessing you don't mind us opening "Cafe Kike," right?

a-1597192259 Aug 11, 2020 05:30 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

REX - no, there isn't. But there WAS a Sambo's, there IS an Indio Muerto and there are probably many many more examples of offensive names out there. The point is/was, just because YOU don't find it offensive, doesn't mean it shouldn't be changed.

a-1597193903 Aug 11, 2020 05:58 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

SANDY1 - so you're saying you would go to a restaurant called Hitler's Cafe and smugly think how "fruitcakes" will be offended? What "fruitcakes" do you believe would be offended by such a name? Seriously, it's ok, you can say it. Who are these "fruitcakes" offended by Hitler's BBQ? We're all anonymous here - go on and say it......

a-1597203050 Aug 11, 2020 08:30 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

This is a tangent, but: If you haven’t read Trevor Noah’s “Born a Crime,” I recommend it. Apparently Hitler was a not-uncommon given name when he was growing up.

ChemicalSuperFreak Aug 11, 2020 05:28 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

High COVID-19 numbers, inability of the local health department to get case numbers correct, inability of the county to enforce pretty much anything, skyrocketing crime, a massive homelessness problem that is contributing to fires and violence directed at local residents...and renaming a couple of streets is what they're going to focus their time on. Unbelievable.

PitMix Aug 12, 2020 08:24 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

You are really going overboard on how serious these problems are. SKYROCKETING crime. MASSIVE homelessness. VIOLENCE directed at residents. What neighborhood do you live in so I can make sure to stay away from it? My westside neighborhood has not changed at all. Really, what is the point of your hyperbole? Does it make it more likely these problems will be solved?

KuroNeko Aug 11, 2020 06:14 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

The Neighborhood Advisory Council Agenda for the August 10 meeting states this: "On June 15, 2020, the City Administrator’s Office received a request from the Barbareño Tribal Council to rename Indio Muerto Street to Hutash Street, which means “Mother Earth” in the Chumash language." I have a question; In which Chumash language does 'Hutash' mean 'Mother Earth'? In Barbareño Chumash language sources (the language of this area), I find no mention of the word 'Hutash'. So the question remains: from which Chumash language does 'Hutash' come from? Is it a word from a language not from this area that is being imposed on the indigenous peoples of this area?

a-1597212082 Aug 11, 2020 11:01 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Good question. Also, never heard of this particular group of Barbareno Chumash. Their address (from the letter they sent the City) is on Coast Village Rd. and their website has hardly anything on it.....Anybody familiar with them?

PitMix Aug 12, 2020 08:27 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

In Oxnard they renamed the J St Drain to Chumash Creek, only the spelling is Tsumas with some dots above the S's. So there are also some questions about how these words should be spelled using the english alphabet. Not to stop us from using them, but something to think about.

RHS Aug 11, 2020 06:43 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

I am regularly drive through this neighborhood, often on San Andres. I object to the suggested change. It is in fact a form of colonialism. Outsiders have decided that locals should want the new name. It is the outsiders' initiative, not those of the people who live on and use this street. Leave it alone unless the users want change. With regard to Indio Muerto I suppose it is in bad taste. So go ahead and look at the idea. But if people on that street oppose it, stop.

JB86 Aug 12, 2020 01:54 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Fine, change the name from Indio Muerto to whatever the Chumash want, if residents are OK with it. They are the ones affected, having to change all their official documents, from grant deeds to insurance policies and utility bills, magazine subscriptions, etc? Is the City going to take care of this? I doubt it; all they have to do is change a few street signs.

PitMix Aug 12, 2020 08:30 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

People keep bring this up like it is a real thing. It is not. The law changing the name allows you to keep the original documents until you need to change them for some other reason, like selling your house. Then it is part of the transaction and doesn't cost you anything. There is some small cost to change the street signs up front, but that is it. But I guess spreading misinformation is helpful if it supports your cause. We are used to it by now.

a-1597299929 Aug 12, 2020 11:25 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

When a street name is changed, the City notifies the Post Office. The post office reprograms all its machines to automatically send mail addressed to Indio Muerto to Hutush for 18 months, for free. Meanwhile, all the companies that have large address lists (your credit card companies, utilities, insurance companies, etc., etc. update their own software periodically (every three, six, and/or twelve months) to match that of the post office. What you are left with are very few companies/people you might have to call.....after 18 months.....

seaninsb Aug 12, 2020 07:27 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

I think it’s a dispacable waste of tax payers money and people’s time and hard earned money. This is a feel good project. Let me remind you the city is in a deficit and many businesses are struggling to stay open. People are out of work. This change will cost real significant money to the city, to the business owners, renters, residents and property owners who live and work on San Andres street.

32 businesses will be affected by this
2 churches
156 other structures that’s a mix between homes and dense apartment buildings. This will affect overall around 1000 people along this corridor.

Cost to home owners and renters: (Expenses you will have to pay out of pocket if this change is passed)$548.00
Cost to business owners: At a minimum $518.00
Real cost to the city: (your wasted tax dollars) $10,000.00

City costs: $10,000.00
Per Business cost: $518 x 32 = $16,576.00
Per resident cost: 1000 x $548.00 = $548,000.00

Total costs for name change to San Andres street: $574,576.00

Now ask yourself why the city is in a deficit. The answer is simple, because our current council members keep supporting and pushing unnecessary financially irresponsible changes like this upon our community.

Ehdat Aug 12, 2020 09:07 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

these costs maybe not exactly correct, but there are real costs that are a lot higher than people realize. Are we in a good financial position right now to spend like this? Let's put it on the calendar for 2022 and see where we are at that point. The issue I have is the flyers plastered all over the westside are misleading. "Will it be easy? Yes!! it only takes one step you to change your address and it is free of charge!"
There is real costs. The last street the city changed the name, in San Roque, was only like 7 properties on a dead-end street. Someone needs to research the real cost of that one. Maybe the costs can be billed back to all the property owners on those streets as a special assessment tax.

LoveMySB Aug 12, 2020 08:56 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

SB City Council needs to focus on the bigger issues we have in this city and there are many. Not in favor of the name changes to satisfy a few. We start with these two and next it will be this one and that one because someone doesn't like it. Neighborhood Advisory Council is a waste in my opinion. Ever been to one of their meetings? I have and it's a complete waste of time.

Babycakes Aug 12, 2020 09:37 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

What does Dolores Huerta think about renaming the street in honor of her? Has anyone asked her about this? My guess is that she would not really be interested in having something RE-named after her. Kind of like receiving an engagement ring that was originally purchased for someone else.....basically, "leftovers." How about something "new and shiny" (new street/park/library/clinic/school) for her rather than changing a perfectly good/historic street name and making 99% of those affected angry? The last thing I'd think she'd want is to have her name thought of in negative light.

Mas Gaviota Aug 12, 2020 09:41 AM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

I have a simple solution. Change the name of Indio Muerto to just Indio. That would celebrate the first humans in this area and it would be less expensive. The city could fix the street signs by painting over the word Muerto.

PitMix Aug 12, 2020 12:07 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Indio means indian, right? Because Columbus thought he had arrived in India but was off by a few thousand miles. I bet Indio St makes very few people happy.

Mas Gaviota Aug 12, 2020 12:28 PM
Santa Barbara Council to Discuss Street Renaming

Actually Columbus though that he had reached the Indies or as we call it now Indonesia / Malaysia. The American Indian Movement AIM and many other tribal members prefer to be referred to as American Indians.

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