Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

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What questions are residents going to ask Councilmember Friedman about at the Community Meeting being held on Target moving into the Galleria? i.e. Are people planning to ask about more than just Target?

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Trudi Apr 10, 2018 11:07 AM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

Well, there is not much any of us can really do about the location. It stinks and I'd prefer to see a larger location b/c that also means a larger store, but it is what it is and I'm excited for a Target. Anyone who is bemoaning this needs to check out state street and everywhere else - it's all big companies now, they are the only ones who can afford the rent. And like another poster said, Trader Joe's (all locations except Goleta) is a parking nightmare, spills out onto DLV all the time. What about that??

a-1571792323 Apr 09, 2018 06:39 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

It would seem that, given all the options, the current location for the Target mini-store is the best location. Other than the "parking nightmare" theorists losing their marbles over basically nothing, there's not a better place to put this store. Most people would agree that Goleta blew it by not working with the folks at Target, and they will definitely regret the day when other national chains, such as Walmart, give Goleta the ol' "sorry, not worth it." If you want a TRUE parking nightmare.....go to any TJs!! Combat parking is what I call it.

a-1571792323 Apr 09, 2018 02:19 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

Monkeyboy, whose greed are you channeling? The airport property is part of the city of Santa Barbara. The city of Goleta cannot simply "annex" it like Putin did the Crimea or Hitler did the Sudetenland. Assuming you are a resident of Goleta I am sorry for them and the future of their democracy.

RHS Apr 10, 2018 09:55 AM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

Rickard did not annex this area. It was annexed by action of the City of Santa Barbara. He was the mayor but did not act by fiat. At the time annexation was a popular way of getting resources for growing cities. LA was most infamous and used skinny paths of land to annex both San Pedro for the harbor and the Owens Valley for the water. This is not permitted any longer as noted but when it happened it was not nefarious. (It was a constant movie cartoon gag to have LA City Limits signs pop up in foreign lands by the way--an acknowledgement of this tactic.)

a-1571792323 Apr 10, 2018 08:56 AM
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"Reasonable" is not defined by what you want. This is sort of a Trumpian attitude in fact. The property is in the city of Santa Barbara. Goleta has no claim on it. The decision of Target is a corporate decision. The city of SB does not get to dictate to them. If Target wanted a big box outlet they could easily find a place in Goleta to do this. Stamping your feet will not change policy made for legal and economic reasons. And please do not give away any of my tax money to this company to distort their decision making.

tagdes Apr 09, 2018 07:49 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

The Honorable Judge Rickard annexed it to the city way back when by running SB city limits out in the ocean and back so we could call it our own. That's why it's named after him and there has since been legislation that makes this type of thing a big no no.

a-1571792323 Apr 09, 2018 05:26 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

UCSB is not part of the city of Santa Barbara --- and Target and Goleta danced together for many months a couple of years ago before Target finally gave up and moved on. The Santa Barbara Municipal Airport is within the City, surrounded by Goleta and Noleta. I wonder how that happened, anyone know why it is not Goleta Municipal Airport instead?

a-1571792323 Apr 09, 2018 05:27 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

UCSB is not part of the city of Santa Barbara --- and Target and Goleta danced together for many months a couple of years ago before Target finally gave up and moved on. The Santa Barbara Municipal Airport is within the City, surrounded by Goleta and Noleta. I wonder how that happened, anyone know why it is not Goleta Municipal Airport instead?

monkeyboy Apr 09, 2018 03:55 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

And no...I live in Santa Barbara...I simply like to point out when people are not being reasonable regardless of how it affects me or my city personally.

monkeyboy Apr 09, 2018 03:53 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

I am simply addressing the fact that a great location for a Target exists. The fact that it isn't there is due entirely to SB not taking responsibility for the increased traffic and maintenance it would create and sharing the costs with Goleta.

monkeyboy Apr 09, 2018 01:37 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

The best question would be, "why are you holding a community meeting now after full approval and start of construction". Pretty much everyone I speak to, even rabid Target fans, think this is an awful location for this. The whole Macy's building is just a vacant homeless seating bench waiting for a tenant. I guess the Council thought they hadn't done enough to destroy this part of town with huge outscale and overpriced development, they needed to put the nail in the coffin with this parking free disaster.

RHS Apr 09, 2018 10:34 AM
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Qs> Why does the city feel the need to be a party to the commercial decision by a private company to bring a shop to town? Isn't this something best left to the private sector? Isn't the city's interest simply that the business comply with zoning or signage or other rules that are to be obeyed by all?

a-1571792323 Apr 08, 2018 04:39 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

A few minutes ago I said to my housemate, "Did you know they're going to put a Target where the Galeria is now?" He replied, "Hah! You're joking. Where are people supposed to park?"

monkeyboy Apr 09, 2018 01:39 PM
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Because the City is unreasonable...refusing to pay mitigation for the traffic to Goleta as they rightfully should. Goleta should just annex the whole airport and be done with Santa Barbara's greed.

a-1571792323 Apr 08, 2018 12:08 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

Question 1: Will the SB Target provide a home-delivery service and if not, would they consider doing so? Question 2: Will Target build a full-scale Super store at the Sears location when it closes? Question 3: Will part-time work be offered to seniors?

LocalinSB Apr 08, 2018 12:05 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

All of the market rate and above AUD housing units (The Marc next to Target is an example of it) is increasing our need for lower cost housing for average workers by 25%. - This comes from the City's own studies. - So, why is Friedman pushing the can down the road to before leveling impact fees or require inclusionary housing? All this does is hurt residents in the long run.

Factotum Apr 09, 2018 08:16 PM
Your Questions for Target Community Meeting

What hurts the local economy is not "lack of affordable housing", but having far too much subsidized housing. (Over 20%) Plus the folly concentrating subsidized low-income housing all around the central commercial core. This curtails discretionary spending that would support this city's economic base. This community needs a far stronger dose of high-end, market rate housing, if it is to survive at all. Run the numbers. This city's current revenue demands will not balance on the backs of even more subsidized housing. When 25,000 UCSB students demand to stay in town after graduation, and the local economy cannot support their limited skill sets, creating more "affordable housing" exclusively for them simply will not work. Time instead to make Santa Barbara more appealing to those who can and well afford it, before that window of opportunity is lost forever.

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