Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

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Will Sears Turn Into Condos?
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Apparently, the owners of the Sears building in the La Cumbre Plaza have listed it for sale and it might be developed with as many as 546 high-density housing units, according to The Independent.

What do edhat readers think should happen to the building and space? Do we need more high-density housing? Should it be repurposed and incorporated back into the La Cumbre Mall for shopping or other retail stores?

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80593110 Mar 07, 2019 01:46 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Who owns the Sears Building? The CEO who drove Sears in to the ground??? I would rather see an IKEA in the Sears Building but not a movie theater as suggested previously Considering the demographics the mall wants, the only thing under $1m would be the construction shed in the parking lot

James805 Mar 07, 2019 01:44 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Assuming the rest of the mall would open practical stores to accommodate locals, I think it is a great idea. They did a nice job restoring that building and it does not get many shoppers. Having a live/work/shop development in SB is something I support. Of course, my opinion differs from all the naysayers so I expect plenty of disrespectful and unproductive commentary.

James805 Mar 07, 2019 02:45 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I appreciate constructive opposition. I just think, in general, we have lost the ability (or discipline) to do so without personal attack. Kind of like your reply. I'm not sure what part of my post lead you to the conclusion that my opinion is best. By the way, what is PL? Penny Lane?

420722 Mar 07, 2019 02:32 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Your last comment basically says your opinion is best and everyone that disagrees with you is disrespect and unproductive...I’ll assume you are a PL so I understand.

Fitness1 Mar 07, 2019 12:59 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

There has been a law in CA since 1969 that cities must build to accommodate growing and anticipated population growth. Per CA Department of Housing and Community Development: "Since 1969, California has required that all local governments (cities and counties) adequately plan to meet the housing needs of everyone in the community. California’s local governments meet this requirement by adopting housing plans as part of their “general plan” (also required by the state). General plans serve as the local government’s "blueprint" for how the city and/or county will grow and develop and include seven elements: land use, transportation, conservation, noise, open space, safety, and housing. The law mandating that housing be included as an element of each jurisdiction’s general plan is known as “housing-element law.” Short answer: Cities are mandated to keep building more housing, no matter what. I think turning that location into housing actually seems to make sense. Walk to grocery, shopping, bus stop, etc.

a-1594338796 Mar 08, 2019 12:20 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I think SB has a very good "tract" record! ;-) I'm in a tract. The elected personnel in question re: housing are actually at state level, not local.

Factotum Mar 07, 2019 02:28 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

State laws are written only by those we elect to write those laws. We have a poor tract record electing those who quickly throw us under the bus. Let's stop doing this to ourselves. Elect some independent locals whose first job is no longer to sell us out to outside interests. The state is us; it is not some foreign entity that demands we do its bidding.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 12:57 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

It doesn't matter that the police department would be on the outskirts of the city. What matters is where the police officers and police cars are.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 12:50 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Wow. Now that will be a huge traffic nightmare regardless of any impact studies. Plus, where will people shopping at the stores there park? I would assume they would be required to provide it. It's a prime location in terms of shopping though. Let's face it who cares what we think the city will do whatever makes it and their developer friends rich.

a-1594338796 Mar 08, 2019 12:24 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

At this point more traffic doesn't matter THAT much. It'll just go from unbearably bad to worse. Wait til Estancia at 3714 (Cattlemen's restaurant/hotel) is populated! And if the Marc ever fills.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 12:50 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I think it would a very cool retail/residence structure. Imagine shops, restaurants on the first level, below ground parking for residences. Second and third higher residential units. Not more than 3 levels high. Very European.

GeneralTree Mar 07, 2019 12:30 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I'm not concerned what goes into that building as long is it is not another over priced up scale supermarket.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 12:21 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I think the Police Department would be great there. And, if there's a jail there, doesn't that qualify as "housing".

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 05:59 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Way more than 700! Face it most don't live alone nowadays who can afford it and so you have to figure 2 cars per unit so like over 1,000 more cars on the streets, parking, etc.

kane kena Mar 07, 2019 11:44 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Isn't the police department looking for a new headquarters? Would seem to be a good fit.

SantaBarbaraObserver Mar 07, 2019 11:43 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Boy oh boy do I hope so. What this town needs more than anything is more $1,250,000 - 1100 sqFt condos right next to the freeway. People who buy these types of properties absolutely love living with mandated low income housing too. They'll sell like $1 tacos on a Tuesday or maybe the city will buy them and gift them to a few lucky "low income" souls? We know how well that's worked out in the past and how well managed those properties are today (/ sarcasm)

Bug Girl Mar 07, 2019 11:53 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I'm agreeing with you here- the city totally needs more $1 Taco Tuesdays.

Ahchooo Mar 07, 2019 11:38 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Isn't the state requiring cities to build housing? If so, this seems like a fine location--it won't ruin any current residential neighborhoods, will it? I hope they retain/provide adequate parking. 546 does seem like a huge number.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 04:32 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Not sure that there would be enough parking for that many units. There would still need to be parking for shoppers for any stores left at La Cumbra.

SantaBarbaraObserver Mar 07, 2019 01:45 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

I dont think most of our traffic issues have to do with the people who live in SB or Goleta. The sheer volume of cars commuting into SB on any day dwarfs the number of locals using the roads. All you have to do is drive around town on a holiday or a Sunday, or after 7pm to see what a difference the commuters make on traffic. They are the ones clogging up the streets and highways. Maybe we need to create an entry toll on these folks as they're not contributing equally to our local sales or property tax coffers, but are certainly impacting our infrastructure and our lifestyle.

Ahchooo Mar 07, 2019 12:28 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

My understanding is that we are no longer allowed to complain about traffic (I'm being sarcastic). Of course the traffic would be horrible. Seems like the state doesn't care; they are requiring cities to provide housing regardless of the wishes of local residents. I don't like it, but I'd rather it be at Sears than crammed into formerly pleasant neighborhoods.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 12:01 PM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

ANCHOO - sure, as long as none of the residents of the 546 units drive cars. The traffic here plus the new Target a block away would be insanity.

a-1594338796 Mar 07, 2019 11:07 AM
Will Sears Turn Into Condos?

Unfortunately, it's not up to us at all. We definitely do NOT need more housing, and certainly not 546 units jammed into that space. But, it's all about the money and those who have it. Bummer.

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