Why Not Use Carpinteria Pier for Water Transport?
By Sean
Since the 101 is closed and the train is open, however terribly slow. For the residents of Carp trying to get to SB or vice versa. Why has the oil pier in Carp not been opened up to the general public for transporting people between the Carp oil pier and the Sb pier/harbor?
Seems like a great solution to a big problem. Maybe Venoco and the city of Carp can open it up to be used temporarily in lieu of the recent events and help to alleviate transportation woes.
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Jan 16, 2018 06:19 AMNumerous reasons:
- Small alley not suited for heavy traffic flow
- No stoplight on Carp Ave
- Lack of parking
- Heavy equipment and numerous cranes on the pier
- Security & safety of Venco's equipment
- Plus the city has their maintenance yard
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Jan 16, 2018 07:38 AMPlus 15 miles away from Santa Barbara where most people work.
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Jan 16, 2018 07:43 AMThey wouldn't be insured for something like that involving public access to a production facility and providing public transpo from their structure.
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Jan 16, 2018 08:32 AMIt should be open to all at this point in time and coordinated to be used in conjunction with Venoco Oil, City of Carpinteria and charter / private boaters.... This is how a community comes together in hard times- THEY MAKE IT WORK!
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Jan 16, 2018 08:59 AMWeren't you complaining about the dumping of mud in the ocean and prolonging the work and cost it would take to open up the 101?
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Jan 16, 2018 08:53 AMNot quit in the category of the Grand Jury that once suggested a freeway along the mountains behind Santa Barbara or the idea that we install a ocean pipe line from the Columbia River to our town but really--when people ask questions like this have they taken any time between the idea and the typing to consider the simplest questions of practicality and politics?
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Jan 16, 2018 10:18 AMWhen the Bay Bridge was unusable after the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989, various agencies sprang immediately into action to reinstate trans-bay ferry services that had been out-of-service pretty much since WWII. The ferry services were so successful getting commuters into San Francisco that they've been in operation ever since. Granted there are more ports and piers on SF Bay, but there's also vastly fewer people here, and I'm beyond surprised that nothing similar has been done to get people here from Carp. Driving to Ventura and then taking the ferry back is no more practical than taking the 2 hour train ride.
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Jan 16, 2018 10:27 AMThe boat trip across the bay is not the same as up and down coast here for example we have small craft advisory basically every other day here in the winter. Its really not an ideal commuting situation over 30 miles vs 5 miles for the bay and the capacity of our piers does not really accommodate offloading passengers well. In 2005 island packers fit in nicely. We have probably doubled our commuting population since then. Same thing for the bay. I would love to take a boat too but unfortunately its not really practical with our infrastructure and sea conditions and distance.
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Jan 16, 2018 10:43 AMVenoco went bankrupt, I thought they were gone. As someone mentioned, insurance is a major issue. Island Packers and the Condor Express have insurance to for the public.
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Jan 16, 2018 04:30 PMAnother thing about the Carp pier. I had a friend working on the oil boats, watching him get from the pier to the boat, or off was interesting. Jump from a platform to the boat on calm days, swing from a rope in rough weather. Not a safe way to board for the non-trained casual passengers.