What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

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What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?
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By Stephen

I am shocked how disgusting the pond at Alice Keck Park has become. It looks like a toxic dump. No turtles, and the beautiful Koi disappeared years ago. I'd like t know what is going on? Locals like myself and visitors visit the park daily. Something needs to be done to fix the problem! I'd like to know what the city plans to do about this once beautiful pond? So sad, nothing can survive in this toxic mess!

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tagdes Jun 10, 2018 09:31 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

The city did a survey and parks do not meet the criteria for them to spend their much needed for unused bike way funds. They found that parks are used by local peds and families with children not bicyclists so just like downtown no need to clean them up.

mattyboy Jun 10, 2018 10:24 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

We just need to raise taxes again. How can the city survive without exponential tax increases? Surely it cannot! Also, city government is so stressed out by the poor pay they receive, they are spending more time with their therapists than job duties.

Channelfog Jun 10, 2018 02:29 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Atta boy Mattyboy. I agree 100%! And perhaps add a few more bonds to really make the property owners suffer. I simply could not believe the ever increasing bond toll on our property taxes. This is what happens when property owners become the minority among the electorate. Renters do not seem to understand that the landlord will pass these costs on, they simply vote yes.

pstarSR Jun 10, 2018 10:34 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

this is from people feeding the turtles and birds bread and EVERYTHING else. See the trash in there? honestly, if it bothers you so much do something about it personally. Parks and open space are going to become more and more rare, ESPECIALLY if we shout to the heavens when they are dirty and the city has to use money to fix them. When in the end, its the public that caused the "toxic" mess.

a-1528652528 Jun 10, 2018 10:42 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

We used to love to spend time at Alice Keck Park, and it was one of our favorite places to visit with out of town friends and family. The place has become a mess and is a disgrace to our city. There's no reason that the pond should be so filthy. Pond scum? Really? Of course there will be a bit, but not like we have now: filth, contamination, disease, and garbage. And after the Solstice celebration in a couple of weeks, probably a thick diseased crust will form that we can walk across.

oceandrew Jun 10, 2018 11:52 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Ah yes, everyone cringing at the lack of maintenance in the public spaces but no one lifting a finger to do anything about it except to point and demand someone do something about it. What an age we live in!! How about getting some friends and neighbours together and organizing a bucket brigade to pick up the trash? How difficult is that?

Channelfog Jun 10, 2018 02:35 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Oceandrew, I appreciate the sentiment, but when two incomes are required to simply survive in SB, little time is left for such noble civic volunteerism. It is actually quite difficult unless your trust-fund/bank is large.

Red Creek Jun 10, 2018 12:40 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

If concerned about a park in the City attend the next Parks and Recreation commission and request to speak at the beginning of the meeting. Your comments will be heard and attended to. Talk with Park staff. Get involved. The way our community improves is heavily dependent on citizen involvement. The City may already have a plan to clean up the pond, but if not, they will listen to your complaints and do something about it.

TomTomTomTom Jun 11, 2018 07:58 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Please note that most people who live in SB work full time + and cannot attend meetings of this sort whenever they wish. Which is a big issue with how our city is run. The city respond to the wishes of the loudest voices however those are only the voices in the room, on a work day, during normal working hours... So the majority of people do not ever get heard or even notified, only those who do not work full time or have normal responsibilities of a modern life.

a-1528666633 Jun 10, 2018 02:37 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Maintenance of AKPMG is paid for from an endowment left by Ms. Park. Most, if not all, of the grounds keepers are volunteers. If you feel that they aren't doing enough, then please consider contributing your time.

Potif Jun 11, 2018 07:47 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

If there was money left as an endowment for maintenance of the park, what is it being used for? And, Koi do a good job of helping to keep water clean, as well as adding beauty. They would also help keep down a turtle population, by eating some of the eggs.

GeneralTree Jun 10, 2018 04:13 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

The city has fallen to hell. Stores downtown shuttered, an army of homeless, aggressive pan handlers, a resident gang population and a huge deficit of available and affordable housing.

mattyboy Jun 10, 2018 10:24 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Yet we contribute $68,000 to the degeneracy that is the solstice parade every year. Much rather see that go to parks than scantily clad grandmas dancing down State.

sb93105 Jun 10, 2018 05:42 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

First, the public can not just start cleaning up ponds- it must be done the way the city approves we know of several attempts from the private sector offering help and many local wildlife groups wanting to provide their assistance and knowledge, nothing ever comes of it- the city just ignored the offers.
and second, we pay enough taxes, even if the city received more money they can not budget anyway! Unfortunately the turtles have been starving there for many years and there has been no feasible conservation attempts.

a-1528706963 Jun 11, 2018 01:49 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Feeding bread to the ducks not only mucks up the water, but is unhealthy for the ducks. It's a double whammy because the bread messes up the water and also the chemicals contained in the bread-----it's always cheap white bread, right?----- ( Potassium Bromate. ...
Azodicarbonamide. ...
Partially Hydrogenated Oil. ...
Sugar. ...
Monoglycerides and Diglycerides. ...
Butylated Hydroxyanisole (BHA) ...
Sodium. ...
Caramel Coloring) which are ingested by the ducks is then pooped into the pond, too, adding to the imbalance of nutrients in the water.

flo97508 Jun 11, 2018 07:34 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

I can't believe there isn't one 'comment' to answer the question. There are signs there now informing the public that the pond is to be drained and cleaned out. Koi are going to Chase Palm Park, turtles are temporarily moved to another location. It is all being done with a careful plan.

sb93105 Jun 11, 2018 07:55 AM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

I don't know the calendar for cleaning it hopefully they wont put everything back ! The pond and the life in it have been a serious issue for years, locals dumping unwanted turtles causing a sever over population as well as adding sickness to the waters. There are way too many trying to live off very little food- We also understand there is money from the AKPMG however due to the fact is it a "public place" the city is in involved- I know so many people that offered solutions yet nothing has been done-

ChrisL Jun 11, 2018 01:31 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Come on. folks...it takes 5 minutes to check the Parks&Rec site on City website to see that the cleanup project is scheduled for June 11-24, and all the details you need are there. I sent City P&R an email thanking them, suggesting they add a comment here, and to tell us how volunteers can plug in. OK? https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/gov/depts/parksrec/news/details.asp?

Lucky 777 Jun 11, 2018 01:54 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Thirty years ago a panicked Mommy thought she saw a piranha in that pond so it was drained. They found two pacu, and the then Harbormaster Paul Nefsted had one taxidermied for display on his desk, his $10,000 trophy fish.

a-1528752230 Jun 11, 2018 02:23 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

Pacu look exactly like piranha to the lay person, so not too unreasonable to be a little panicked if you see one. Would you be able to tell the difference between the two fish....?

Potif Jun 11, 2018 03:21 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

They are related to Piranha. Besides, Pacu can also become an invasive species. They were probably released by someone who either didn't want them anymore, or found they outgrew their aquarium.

a-1528769042 Jun 11, 2018 07:04 PM
What Happened to Alice Keck Park Memorial Gardens?

If the city was in the process of planning the pond cleanup, they chose not to share it with the public. After the "What happened" post on 6/10, the city scurried to include the news story in their Friday newsletter. See City post dated 6/11. Note the start date of the project is 6/11 even though the work started prior to that.
https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/gov/depts/parksrec/news/details.asp?NewsID=1481&TargetID=53

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