Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

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By Scanner Andrew

City firefighters extinguished a vegetation fire on SB Hwy 101 just north of the Milpas Street offramp.

Photo by Patti Gutshall

Photos by Jacqueline

Pictures of the fire from the Riviera...


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NotReallyDave Nov 13, 2021 04:51 PM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Is this going to lead to another motel being taken over for us citizens to provide for another round of homeless housing?

Sensibly Common Nov 13, 2021 06:41 PM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Taking over a motel for a cool $1.25 million every three months. I fail to see how that is a good value. As I understand it, this is being paid for with measure C that is supposed to be used for maintenance.

a-1636906896 Nov 14, 2021 08:21 AM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

“us citizens” vs. the “homeless”: how charitably inclusive of you, NOTREALLYDAVE.....

a-1636891742 Nov 14, 2021 04:09 AM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

This is a known homeless encampment area, as anyone going to the post office a little further down Nopalitos knows well. The Quarantina underpass is also home to bicycles and camping, cleaned out occasionally with occupants moving to the nearby brush area where this fire was. The Rescue Mission and PATH are nearby —- are there no beds there available for those houseless?

fitz Nov 14, 2021 07:29 AM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

The problem with these 'solutions' is the 'hangers-on'. Look at Rose Garden. Not too bad at the facility but then all the homeless who can't get in have migrated into the nearby bushes. It is wack-a-mole but the city needs to clean out these camps as soon as they crop up. Why isn't goleta cleaning out those large camps along the 101? The one west of Patterson (southbound side) is huge and all the stuff sits there along the fence. And the one (heading north) on Caltrans property is certainly visible to everyone but again, the junk just sits there. I don't mind using my tax dollars to create approved shelters if they end the camps; but if the camps are allowed to just proliferate, I do mind.

edney Nov 14, 2021 01:29 PM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Hi Fitz

You make an important point.
There always will be hangers on around shelters like the Rose Garden Inn.
I don't know about visitors policies, but without any (and even with tem) you could have people "renting" out their room, shower etc.

I remember a parking lot shelter for homeless women living in their cars that was started in a fairly remote place. Well, the guys found the women, parked and camped just offsite. The problems started growing and now that lot is no longer used in the program.

LA rented a hotel where all the rooms were accessed from inside hallways. Keycard entry.
The inhabitants broke the doors so they would no longer shut, and drug dealers went up and down the halls knocking like door to door salespeople. People started living in the halls, injecting drugs and pooping in the stairwells.

Very important to crack down on drug sales around any kind of shelter

Luvaduck Nov 14, 2021 07:54 AM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

The weather and scenery are better than in most of the entire contiguous USA. Without judgment, realisticallym it makes more sense to winter here, more so if vagrancy laws are draconian elsewhere. No amount of free housing will stem the tide. Hobos used to put marks in chalk on places to get a free meal or unlocked places to sleep. The internet has replaced chalk. "Build it and they will come."

Ahchooo Nov 14, 2021 10:18 AM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Even in less appealing cities, homeless people abound. In Yreka, nearly a five hour drive north of San Francisco, that city is setting up a permanent campsite for homeless people, to replace several unsanctioned campsites that are a problem. Yreka has harsher weather and way fewer amenities than SB, and yet they are still dealing with very large numbers of homeless. (I’m just commenting, not offering solutions. SB is not alone in this struggle.)

edney Nov 14, 2021 01:12 PM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Almost anytown along the I-5 is going to have a few homeless who stay. Some probably walk from the UP RR to the east of Yreka as well.

I'd rather be homeless in Yreka than LA... safer anyway.

Lucky 777 Nov 14, 2021 08:55 AM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Poor little homeless thieves, they needed a "warming fire" on an 88 degree day. The brush will be just as dry when it turns colder. Coming to your neighborhood soon.

a-1636926906 Nov 14, 2021 01:55 PM
Vegetation Fire on Nopalitos

Giant pile of bikes and bike parts spotted near this fire, under the 101 bridge. Anyone missing a bike?

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