Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

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By edhat staff

The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) is advising vaccinated Californians to continue wearing face masks indoors until June 15.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released new guidance last week and stated vaccinated people no longer need to wear a mask or physically distance in any setting, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance. 

California is planning to implement these new CDC guidelines on June 15, the date when Governor Gavin Newsom plans to lift all COVID-19 restrictions for the state. California Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly stated this four-week period will give Californians time to prepare for the change while the state continues to focus on delivering vaccines, particularly in underserved communities.

“We urge all Californians to get vaccinated to ensure that infection and hospitalization rates remain low across the state and that we can all return to the activities we love. Until June 15, when California plans to fully reopen the economy, California will keep our existing guidance around masks in place," wrote Dr. Ghaly in a public statement.

Since May 3, face coverings have not been required for outdoor gatherings except at crowded events and for unvaccinated people when physical distancing cannot be maintained. In indoor settings outside of one's home including public transportation and schools, face coverings are required regardless of vaccination status," wrote Dr. Ghaly.

California has administered more than 34 million vaccines and is among the lowest case and positivity rates in the nation.

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dukemunson May 21, 2021 09:14 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

That was poorly written on my part, as per the study students weren’t giving it (or getting it from students) in a statistically higher number whether they were masked or not. Obviously kids can give and get it.

So as per your quoted study, masks didn’t seem to make much difference for students (similar instances of transmission with or without) AND there was no difference then the community at large. So... schools were/are safe and as long as teachers are vaccinated then the increase that showed up with them is moot!!

Obviously not sure which anonymous poster you are so can’t say you were one of the “close schools down till Fall” crowd but seriously, that line of thinking hammered us this year and made everything definitively worse.

Get the teachers vaccinated and get rid of the mask mandate for kids... it’s silly...

a-1621653658 May 21, 2021 08:20 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

7:42 - Um, where does it say that students didn't get or spread it. It just concludes that there was not a significant difference in incidence *among students* whether they were masked or not, with no mention of the rate. A previous CDC study showed "a strong association with student mask requirements and lower rates of infections in students."

dukemunson May 21, 2021 07:42 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

720pm - Please do explain! I mean, as per your article, there was no statistical impact of masks or no masks on the school kids. This was taken from studies carried out in November and December when they vaccine was not in play... So... kids aren’t giving it to kids, and the teachers, who yes saw an increase in cases, have all now been vaccinated and are good to go... right?

So where is your point (or npr’s lazy point in this case)? Where is the bias in my statement? As per your article the kids didn’t get or give it in any statistical difference whether they wore a mask or not.

So who is biased here...? kind of seems like the anonymous poster who is either questioning the vaccines efficacy or questioning the study in the article that they posted or just doesn’t like the Duke...

dukemunson May 21, 2021 06:53 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

529pm - right... but you have heard about the vaccine, right??

Now all the teachers have been vaccinated... so you have no transmission between kids and the teachers are now vaccinated! This article is literal PROOF that’s masks aren’t needed for kids in school.

a-1621459894 May 19, 2021 02:31 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

There's a lot of disinformation (harmful misinformation) being spread by the gang of garrulous covidiots in this thread. Here's what the CDC has to say about that nonsense:

Mask effectiveness:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

Effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions (masks and shutdowns):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm?s_cid=mm7010e3_w

Babycakes May 18, 2021 06:12 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

GeneralTree: A Snowflake trophy is definitely in order for these upset whiners. We could take your "Catcher of the Year" trophy from 2020, scratch out the word "Catcher" with scissors, and use a Sharpie markerto scrawl in "sNoWflAke" You could even do the presentation ceremony with your masks on .... now that would be a peach!

All Sides May 19, 2021 05:01 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Duke - you appear to be a very excitable person. And that is ok. It is your right. But i am not sure why you respond to Gen Tree. it will never make you happy nor calm nor fulfilled. People that only see one side of things are hopefully not the norm. I saw him say that he would meet you on the field. Not sure what that means, but if he gives you a time and the location of which field, please let me know. I bet other people would like to be there too. I am of the same mind as Nostrachumash. 20 minutes.

Voice of Reason May 19, 2021 02:37 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

That is disinformation and straight up propoganda @2:17! If masks and closures had a "measurable, large effect" then when looking at a graph of cases/100k over time you would have seen a large spike when Florida completely opened back in September (they didn't) and a decline in cases when CA increased restrictions and banned outdoor dinning in the winter (they didn't and spiked higher than FL ever did). In the link below, select CA and FL, daily, cases/100k. With FL zero restrictions since September 2020 and CA STILL under heavy restrictions how can you look at that and say the masks and closures had "measurable, large effect"? https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#compare-trends_newcasesper100k

sacjon May 19, 2021 12:30 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

DUKE - yeah, getting CWAZNY all CWAZY is hoot. I know we all agree on this stuff, I just don't get why VOR is losing his sh^$ still when we're all good now. School is back, businesses are open, etc etc. Yeah, CA screwed up on some stuff, but hindsight is 20/20. We needed masks, we needed some closures (bars, theaters, concerts, etc), we need distancing (which by its nature, required some closing). We made a ton of sacrifices, some we didn't need to make, BUT IT IS OVER NOW. Time to live again. VOR is free to whine and moan here all day long, but it's silly and useless at this point. You see?

Chip of SB May 19, 2021 12:27 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac, I never wore a mask outside. I have been going outside and enjoying myself since covid began because I correctly assessed that doing so was not a significant risk. I don’t care if you prefer to wear a mask, but I am truly sick and tired of a vocal minority of people forcing me to wear a mask in order to enter certain businesses. You can wear a mask if you want, but you have no right to use state and local government to make me comport with your religious beliefs by wearing a mask whenever I go into a store.

dukemunson May 19, 2021 12:21 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

I agree it was a stretch...the thing is it had been 47 posts since I posted about gun control and I don't like to get past 50 without needling Cwazny about his Ar-15's. I haven't been talking about masks on this thread at all (other than perhaps to note the humor of Newsome once again "knowing more" than the CDC). I've been talking about California's anti-science stance from Day 1. Keeping kids out of school and shuttering businesses have an effect on the population...you could call this a stretch too but we've had a seemingly tangible increase in domestic violence and various other crimes over the last 14 months. That's obviously not about masks, which yeah who cares if we have to wear them for 4 more weeks...it's just about our cumulative response to COVID which consistently fought science and made life harder on our kids and on our finances.

Chip of SB May 19, 2021 12:13 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

I think many people here are are incorrectly assessing the potential benefits of masks. At one point in time, the experts said that masks would put a stop to covid within weeks. They were wrong. At one point in time experts advised wearing masks outdoors. It turns out masks have no benefit outdoors. Here is an interesting article about how some people are reluctant to give up there masks. What I find particularly interesting is the man interviewed in this article wears a cloth mask on top of an N95 mask as well as goggles. In spite of taking those precautions, he got covid. Masks do little, if anything, to protect against covid transmission, yet people are comfortable being in public when they wear them. Vaccines, on the other hand, are extremely effective yet many people are afraid to rely on them. https://www.yahoo.com/news/theyre-vaccinated-keeping-masks-maybe-123430683.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

sacjon May 19, 2021 12:01 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - you're a fool, I get that. But don't be a scared fool as well. I get that your and DUKE have been traumatized by all the "fear," but rest assured, most of us are living happily and don't mind having to continue wearing a mask in some situations. Don't be such a scared little guy, man up!

dukemunson May 19, 2021 11:43 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac - I do think you are underestimating the emotional and psychological toll of the persistent excessive fear mongering. People (and especially kids) are resilient...but there is a tangible effect to this that I think will persist for awhile. Just to annoy Cwazny I'll liken it to gun control...the fear of mass shootings in schools is real...and has a tangible effect on kids. (Yes Yes...I know it's slightly clunky but I'm trying to say that less guns will lead to less fear and less anti-science fear mongering will lead to less fear).

sacjon May 19, 2021 12:14 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - in one sentence, and without moaning about all the injustice you've suffered, tell us exactly what you're afraid of. Continued mask mandates? Nope. Additional school/business closures? Nope, not after June 15. Media bias and misinformation? Yep, that's been there for decades and will continue. Don't dwell on that, just focus on legit news, not Newsmax, Youtube, CNN, etc.

sacjon May 19, 2021 12:04 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - "mandates and restrictions that did nothing to curtail the spread of the virus" --- so you're saying mandated social distancing and mask wearing did NOTHING, not a single thing to slow the virus? I mean, you've obviously got PTSD from having to give up a haircut and manicure, but really? You think if we had done nothing we would have been just fine? Dude, you're a real piece of work. Now you're crying we should have done nothing and that your suffering life long trauma from what you had to go through? Toughen up.

sacjon May 19, 2021 11:30 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - it's really not all that bad, stop stressing yourself out so much. It's just a mask during a pandemic. No need to wear it anywhere unless your asked/required to and then just do it. It doesn't harm you. You and DUKE need to just let it go. It's over. Relax.

Voice of Reason May 19, 2021 11:25 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac, you keep trying to make this about the mask. It isn't about the mask! It's about arbitrary non-science based mandates and restrictions that did nothing to curtail the spread of the virus (but caused significant harm) with politicians constantly talking about "following the science" then ignoring the science when they don't like it and flat out making up "science" to try and justify their political actions. It's about the damage the for-profit media has done to our society broadcasting straight up fear porn to our population where we now have fully vaccinated people who are too scared to take off their masks outside (which is supposed to protect others and not themselves?). If the unnecessarily
fearful kept to themselves fine, but they don't, they've been calling into city council meetings, school board meetings, supervisors meetings and affecting policies that are detrimental to those of us with a more rational and fact based view of our current situation. I doesn't matter who is vaxxed and who isn't when the vaccines work and everyone who wants one can get one. If you think it will be just a little while longer, I bet you also believed it would just be 15 days to flatten the curve...

sacjon May 19, 2021 10:39 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - so are you agreeing with the CDC and CA that masks for unvaxxed people indoors are useful? You cannot feasibly make a rule where only vaxxed people can take off their masks in indoor business. How are you to know who is vaxxed and who isn't? Ask for their vax card? Yeah, not likely. No, you adopt a rule that is applied equally to all. Most people don't mind still wearing a mask in the grocery store. I don't see why you guys are still kicking and screaming about having to wear a mask indoors a little while longer. Just relax!

Chip of SB May 18, 2021 04:39 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Masks and the associated restrictions are important for much more than Covid. The last year or so has really helped enlighten our society about the importance of maintaining good hygiene and more structured social interactions. For example, many more advanced cultures have long recognized the harm caused by close physical contact, particularly between members of the opposite sex. Can you believe that little over a year ago, we would tolerate a young man and a young woman meeting for the first time and engaging in close physical embrace?!?! Absolutely shocking! Now we have come to our senses and adopted much more hygienic standards of behavior. Much like we will continue to wear masks, we will continue to prohibit people from engaging in the germ spreading and socially corrupting practice of dancing.

garfield May 18, 2021 01:18 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Commenting without a personal comment:
https://www.uscovid19tracker.info/

I suggest this website, created by a UCSB student, that began data collecting and charting the covid data early on. It is a very valuable tool as it has all the data you could want, and lets you select the region, the date period and the type of graph. No politics that I could find in it.

a-1621354271 May 18, 2021 09:11 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Many of the "rules" regarding covid infections were developed very early in the pandemic, based on petri dish experiments, according to a friend who is a public health specialist. Later, the parameters were expanded to include studies based on actual spread of the virus. Now, after months of studies on actual vaccinated (and unvaccinated) people, the CDC and others have discovered that vaccinated people don't catch or spread the virus, the numbers of formerly infected have also grown to herd immunity size, and generally the incidence of infection will continue to drop to low numbers. In SB County, we are easily below the lowest artificial yellow "tier" created by the state. Check out the data for yourself at: https://publichealthsbc.org/data/ . So masks off.

pstarSR May 18, 2021 07:05 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

The cdc change applies to areas that do not have a set mandate already. Unincorporated areas etc.

June 15th is still our date cause we have a state mandate and the cdc recommends following that.

To the ban businesses comment. Hows the “no shirt no shoes no service “ restriction working out? Oh yea cause its a private buisness and they can require what they want.

Were getting back to normal but now we are filled with toxic people that feel like they need to fight everything. All the complainers did your constant moaning about masks change anything? Did the fight stop the virus? Did your actions help our community/society prevail? When you realize it had no benefit other than to stroke your own ego you will understand. Good luck out there.

dukemunson May 18, 2021 07:44 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Thank god people to reopen the schools! Thinking likes yours would have kept our schools closed through August (after already needlessly keeping it closed through the winter). Your actions didn’t help society prevail... and made everything worse... so yeah... thanks !

PitMix May 18, 2021 07:04 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Advising, or requiring? There seems to be a lot of confusion about that. Trader Joe's not requiring masks.

I preferred the CDC under Trump when you knew they were lying. Now it's just very confusing. How did they expect to enforce the requirement that unvaxxed people had to still wear masks indoors without a vax passport system? And those are the people that are less likely to wear masks in the 1st place!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/14/how-many-unvaccinated-people-will-quietly-stop-wearing-masks-now/

dukemunson May 18, 2021 07:49 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

To the vaccinated it doesn’t matter if the unmasked people are or aren’t vaccinated... you are good to go! I know your inclination is to close and stop everything... but you’ve been ignoring the science from the very beginning and thank god saner minds are prevailing. For god sakes you didn’t want schools to open till August!

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