Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

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By edhat staff

The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) is advising vaccinated Californians to continue wearing face masks indoors until June 15.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released new guidance last week and stated vaccinated people no longer need to wear a mask or physically distance in any setting, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance. 

California is planning to implement these new CDC guidelines on June 15, the date when Governor Gavin Newsom plans to lift all COVID-19 restrictions for the state. California Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly stated this four-week period will give Californians time to prepare for the change while the state continues to focus on delivering vaccines, particularly in underserved communities.

“We urge all Californians to get vaccinated to ensure that infection and hospitalization rates remain low across the state and that we can all return to the activities we love. Until June 15, when California plans to fully reopen the economy, California will keep our existing guidance around masks in place," wrote Dr. Ghaly in a public statement.

Since May 3, face coverings have not been required for outdoor gatherings except at crowded events and for unvaccinated people when physical distancing cannot be maintained. In indoor settings outside of one's home including public transportation and schools, face coverings are required regardless of vaccination status," wrote Dr. Ghaly.

California has administered more than 34 million vaccines and is among the lowest case and positivity rates in the nation.

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sacjon May 18, 2021 01:45 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - not a change of tune, it's more that you never read my comments with much critical ability. I have from the get go condemned what the schools have done. Further, and more importantly to this point, I have never said CA was handling this better. It has consistently been my position that FL is not the beacon of COVID success you have made it out to be. I can say Florida is doing a poor job while at the same time saying CA did a poor job (with 20/20 hindsight of course). I will not though, say FL did/is doing a better job than CA though. Make sense?

dukemunson May 18, 2021 01:57 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

GT - The pandemic has ebbs and flows...you get that right? California and Florida have had peaks and valleys at the same times...and at differing times, often of late mirroring the various variants (see Michigan not too long ago). California is at 39% vaccinated to Florida's 36%...so sure...there is a win for California. The metrics that matter though are hospitalizations and deaths and ultimately by total number...right?

dukemunson May 18, 2021 01:59 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac - California has twice the population of Florida but nearly three times as many deaths in the 0-65 age demo...

Considering the unemployment rates and school closure effects, it's pretty hard to say Florida didn't do the better job. Make sense?

GeneralTree May 18, 2021 02:06 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Oh now he says it ebbs and flows. haha.
Duke according to you the numbers are about deaths - unless it comes to elderly? For every million residents of California, 1,385 Californians have died of COVID-19. But for every million residents of Florida, 1,538 Floridians have died of COVID-19. And for every million Californian residents, there have been about 91,000 confirmed coronavirus cases; for every million Floridian residents, there have been about 94,000 cases.

dukemunson May 18, 2021 02:07 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

GT - You do realize California had more deaths in the 75+ than California...right?

California 75-84 deaths - 15669
Florida 75-84 deaths - 10,035

California 85 and older deaths - 16475
Florida 85 and older deaths - 9686

And who is trivializing them?? COVID kills senior citizens at exponentially higher rates. The same percentage of the states population of the 75+ in California died as died in Florida...nothing we did helped or made a difference, unless you count being a wildly expensive place to retire and as such having less older people.

GeneralTree May 18, 2021 02:08 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

But California’s state budget outlook is surprisingly robust. While unemployment rose sharply through much of 2020, millions of middle-class and high-wage workers were able to keep their jobs and work from home. Tax collections also rose after a strong stock market boosted capital gains earned by the state’s wealthiest taxpayers. While California is forecasting a state budget windfall, Florida is grappling with a state budget shortfall.

dukemunson May 18, 2021 02:14 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

And how did I say it wasn't about the elderly? It's all about the elderly! That's who the 95% of people who have died of COVID are!!!! If you compare an elementary school with a retirement home, are you really going to conclude the elementary school did better because less people died. When you actually factor in age demographics California did worse than Florida...definitively.

sacjon May 18, 2021 02:17 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

You guys remind me of those movies of a bunch of dudes standing around a kitchen counter doing coke all night long "debating" over useless topics. Go to bed, get some sleep. Nobody cares anymore about who did better anymore. It's over. Go outside, take off your mask and step away from the pile on the counter.

dukemunson May 18, 2021 02:20 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

I'm certainly no economist...so...I'll defer to you on the state budget as that certainly is a win for California. That being said though...It just doesn't feel real or right as the unemployment numbers are much worse here and a lot of businesses are shuttered. I guess the wildly wealthy made a ton this year and paid a lot in taxes...wohoo!!!

dukemunson May 18, 2021 02:24 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac...you couldn't be more right. Arguing with Generaltree though is more akin to drive home from Vegas...it's painful, you feel lousy and your wondering what the heck you are doing with your life.

A lot of people on Edhat though seemed to think all the closures (school and businesses) were for the best...it's slightly hard to let go of how tough that year was for seemingly no purpose. The Covidiots wouldn't listen to logic or reason...

dukemunson May 18, 2021 02:35 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

GeneralTree - Did you look at the numbers? Were you able to open the CDC website? Were you able to find the table that shows the breakdown on deaths? If not I copied and pasted it for you. You are right...less per 100k people died in California than Florida. When you take out the over 75 age group though, more (per 100k) died in California than Florida. And when you look at the (per 100k) of people over 75, more died in California than Florida. In essence, all the additional babies, toddlers, teenagers, millenialls, Gen Z'ers brought California's numbers down?

Is that something you can't understand...or? Here's an extreme example, which institution (f everyone get's sick) is going to have more deaths...an elementary school or a retirement home. With COVID it's truly brutal if you are over 75...and Florida has a lot more over 75 year olds!!

GeneralTree May 18, 2021 02:46 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

DUKE MUNSON - are you ok? You sound like you are busting a vein man. You are saying Florida "did" better than California on Covid. I disagree. If people on the outside of those homes had masked up and stayed home and followed all the rules - I believe your elderly numbers would be lower. If we had the same death rate - we would have 6,000 more deaths here in California. I believe it was you taunting the unemployment rate but not mentioning the budget windfall of California vs the budget deficit of Florida. . While unemployment rose sharply through much of 2020, millions of middle-class and high-wage workers were able to keep their jobs and work from home. Tax collections also rose after a strong stock market boosted capital gains earned by the state’s wealthiest taxpayers. Your numbers take nothing into account for the percentage of minorities effected, population densities, or other factors. Yet your Floridians cases are still much higher than California and the trend towards vaccination much lower. I think you are just angry.

dukemunson May 18, 2021 02:54 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Here's the numbers on seniors over 65 in California and Florida (per 100k of that demographic)

California - 822.6 deaths per 100k for people over 65
Florida - 620.5 deaths per 100k for people over 65

California 65-74 year old deaths - 14494
Florida 65-74 deaths - 7324

California 75-84 deaths - 15669
Florida 75-84 deaths - 10,035

California 85 and older deaths - 16475
Florida 85 and older deaths - 9686

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

We had a higher death rate for the demographics that this actually effects...we just have less seniors. So...again...More Seniors (per 100k) of seniors died California than in Florida. MORE IN CALIFORNIA.

dukemunson May 19, 2021 08:21 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

GC - That is correct, which I noted multiple times, however when you actually look at the posted CDC numbers California's numbers are better simply due to the fact that we have less elderly. 95% of the people dying from COVID are the elderly...and Florida has drastically more elderly than California (per capita). So great...less per capita in California died...but more capita in every single age group died in California in Florida! Since we have millions more youth though, that, like the much less per capita Florida youth didn't die, it drops out per capita death rate below.

dukemunson May 19, 2021 09:58 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

I’m going to counter with a “We all lost” read aloud in morgan freeman’s voice from the night he thought Andy had taken his own life in the Shawshank...

Except pitmix!!!! Who was hoping for schools to stay closed till August!!! Didn’t get all schools, but quite a few are staying closed till August... despite anything and everything the cdc has said... so yes... “pitmix wins” must be read around in best James Earl Jones voice!

PitMix May 18, 2021 07:04 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Advising, or requiring? There seems to be a lot of confusion about that. Trader Joe's not requiring masks.

I preferred the CDC under Trump when you knew they were lying. Now it's just very confusing. How did they expect to enforce the requirement that unvaxxed people had to still wear masks indoors without a vax passport system? And those are the people that are less likely to wear masks in the 1st place!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/14/how-many-unvaccinated-people-will-quietly-stop-wearing-masks-now/

dukemunson May 18, 2021 07:49 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

To the vaccinated it doesn’t matter if the unmasked people are or aren’t vaccinated... you are good to go! I know your inclination is to close and stop everything... but you’ve been ignoring the science from the very beginning and thank god saner minds are prevailing. For god sakes you didn’t want schools to open till August!

pstarSR May 18, 2021 07:05 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

The cdc change applies to areas that do not have a set mandate already. Unincorporated areas etc.

June 15th is still our date cause we have a state mandate and the cdc recommends following that.

To the ban businesses comment. Hows the “no shirt no shoes no service “ restriction working out? Oh yea cause its a private buisness and they can require what they want.

Were getting back to normal but now we are filled with toxic people that feel like they need to fight everything. All the complainers did your constant moaning about masks change anything? Did the fight stop the virus? Did your actions help our community/society prevail? When you realize it had no benefit other than to stroke your own ego you will understand. Good luck out there.

dukemunson May 18, 2021 07:44 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Thank god people to reopen the schools! Thinking likes yours would have kept our schools closed through August (after already needlessly keeping it closed through the winter). Your actions didn’t help society prevail... and made everything worse... so yeah... thanks !

a-1621354271 May 18, 2021 09:11 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Many of the "rules" regarding covid infections were developed very early in the pandemic, based on petri dish experiments, according to a friend who is a public health specialist. Later, the parameters were expanded to include studies based on actual spread of the virus. Now, after months of studies on actual vaccinated (and unvaccinated) people, the CDC and others have discovered that vaccinated people don't catch or spread the virus, the numbers of formerly infected have also grown to herd immunity size, and generally the incidence of infection will continue to drop to low numbers. In SB County, we are easily below the lowest artificial yellow "tier" created by the state. Check out the data for yourself at: https://publichealthsbc.org/data/ . So masks off.

garfield May 18, 2021 01:18 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Commenting without a personal comment:
https://www.uscovid19tracker.info/

I suggest this website, created by a UCSB student, that began data collecting and charting the covid data early on. It is a very valuable tool as it has all the data you could want, and lets you select the region, the date period and the type of graph. No politics that I could find in it.

Chip of SB May 18, 2021 04:39 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Masks and the associated restrictions are important for much more than Covid. The last year or so has really helped enlighten our society about the importance of maintaining good hygiene and more structured social interactions. For example, many more advanced cultures have long recognized the harm caused by close physical contact, particularly between members of the opposite sex. Can you believe that little over a year ago, we would tolerate a young man and a young woman meeting for the first time and engaging in close physical embrace?!?! Absolutely shocking! Now we have come to our senses and adopted much more hygienic standards of behavior. Much like we will continue to wear masks, we will continue to prohibit people from engaging in the germ spreading and socially corrupting practice of dancing.

sacjon May 19, 2021 10:39 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - so are you agreeing with the CDC and CA that masks for unvaxxed people indoors are useful? You cannot feasibly make a rule where only vaxxed people can take off their masks in indoor business. How are you to know who is vaxxed and who isn't? Ask for their vax card? Yeah, not likely. No, you adopt a rule that is applied equally to all. Most people don't mind still wearing a mask in the grocery store. I don't see why you guys are still kicking and screaming about having to wear a mask indoors a little while longer. Just relax!

Voice of Reason May 19, 2021 11:25 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac, you keep trying to make this about the mask. It isn't about the mask! It's about arbitrary non-science based mandates and restrictions that did nothing to curtail the spread of the virus (but caused significant harm) with politicians constantly talking about "following the science" then ignoring the science when they don't like it and flat out making up "science" to try and justify their political actions. It's about the damage the for-profit media has done to our society broadcasting straight up fear porn to our population where we now have fully vaccinated people who are too scared to take off their masks outside (which is supposed to protect others and not themselves?). If the unnecessarily
fearful kept to themselves fine, but they don't, they've been calling into city council meetings, school board meetings, supervisors meetings and affecting policies that are detrimental to those of us with a more rational and fact based view of our current situation. I doesn't matter who is vaxxed and who isn't when the vaccines work and everyone who wants one can get one. If you think it will be just a little while longer, I bet you also believed it would just be 15 days to flatten the curve...

sacjon May 19, 2021 11:30 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - it's really not all that bad, stop stressing yourself out so much. It's just a mask during a pandemic. No need to wear it anywhere unless your asked/required to and then just do it. It doesn't harm you. You and DUKE need to just let it go. It's over. Relax.

sacjon May 19, 2021 12:04 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - "mandates and restrictions that did nothing to curtail the spread of the virus" --- so you're saying mandated social distancing and mask wearing did NOTHING, not a single thing to slow the virus? I mean, you've obviously got PTSD from having to give up a haircut and manicure, but really? You think if we had done nothing we would have been just fine? Dude, you're a real piece of work. Now you're crying we should have done nothing and that your suffering life long trauma from what you had to go through? Toughen up.

sacjon May 19, 2021 12:14 PM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

VOR - in one sentence, and without moaning about all the injustice you've suffered, tell us exactly what you're afraid of. Continued mask mandates? Nope. Additional school/business closures? Nope, not after June 15. Media bias and misinformation? Yep, that's been there for decades and will continue. Don't dwell on that, just focus on legit news, not Newsmax, Youtube, CNN, etc.

dukemunson May 19, 2021 11:43 AM
Vaccinated Californians to Continue Wearing Masks Indoors Until June 15

Sac - I do think you are underestimating the emotional and psychological toll of the persistent excessive fear mongering. People (and especially kids) are resilient...but there is a tangible effect to this that I think will persist for awhile. Just to annoy Cwazny I'll liken it to gun control...the fear of mass shootings in schools is real...and has a tangible effect on kids. (Yes Yes...I know it's slightly clunky but I'm trying to say that less guns will lead to less fear and less anti-science fear mongering will lead to less fear).

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