Tiny Homes Arrive for Isla Vista Homeless Community
By edhat staff
Isla Vista has set up twenty temporary pallet homes for the homeless community in the small college town.
The 8x8 foot structures are currently in the parking lot of the Isla Vista Community Center in the 900 block of Embarcadero del Mar next to People's Park.
The homes will be operated by The Good Samaritan Shelter who currently runs homeless programs in Santa Maria. Program managers will be able to offer permanent housing assistance as well as counseling and other government programs.
The temporary homes were made by Pallet, a company that builds low-cost, safe, and secure aluminum shelters for transitional housing for the homeless community and those recovering from natural disasters.
The 64 square foot shelters are able to be set up within one hour, include beds, climate control, locking doors and windows, ventilation, and electricity accessibility. The shelters are specifically designed without kitchens and bathrooms and are intended to be used in a community setting where these facilities exist on site, similar to a summer camp or college dormitory, the website states.
Pallet has contracted with several cities throughout the west coast including Los Angeles, Santa Cruz, and Santa Clara.
The project costs approximately $900,000 and is being funded through federal CARES Act COVID-19 relief through May 2021.
Photo: John Palminteri / KEYT News
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Dec 12, 2020 04:52 PMseems good or at least adequate, better than no shelter?
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Dec 12, 2020 05:56 PMWonderful, I hope it goes well so more projects like this can get off the ground (no pun intended)
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Dec 12, 2020 06:05 PMSo they are under 5k each... but the project costs 900k?
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Dec 12, 2020 06:49 PMHomeless, Inc.
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Dec 12, 2020 06:50 PMWWBMD?
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Dec 12, 2020 06:50 PMWhat, no Wi-Fi!?!?
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Dec 12, 2020 06:56 PMIt's sad how people from the far right always make such disparaging comments about the homeless - much like Hitler they would just rather have them disappear than actually come up with some sort of solution. Don't expect the party of Trump to care about the homeless, elderly, the sick or anyone in need - they are burdens on other people's pockets. Rather than volunteer or get involved, they make depraved comments behind the anonynimity of the Internet. Shame on you.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:35 PMFirst, I'm a libertarian in terms of beliefs---I do not belong to a political party. Second, I already made it abundantly clear that I'm willing to help people who want help, such as a person or family that find themselves homeless through no fault of their own. Third, I hate vanilla...I'm more of a chocolate fan.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:42 PM4th you didn't make it abundantly clear that you are willing to help people who want help, such as a person or family that find themselves homeless through no fault of their own but I applaud you for stating it now. 5th Libertarians do hold some beliefs that I absolutely agree with. 6th I100% agree with you on Chocolate so maybe we can agree on something . 7th I do appreciate the statistics that you've been keeping on Covid and you do provide a lot of insight into the numbers and I appreciate that.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:55 PM900k for 20 tiny houses that cost $4900 each...for 5 total months? Don’t care what party you are in... that’s just throwing money at a problem in such way that it becomes a bigger problem.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:56 PMDuke - then go get involved.
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Dec 12, 2020 08:03 PMAnd Duke I agree the numbers don't add up. I wonder if there is a way we could find out the break down of the costs - something isn't right there.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:57 PM8th, I appreciate that we can find common ground despite all the other disagreements. Cheers to you!
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Dec 12, 2020 07:58 PMCSF I'll attempt to be a little less "thick" cheers.
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Dec 12, 2020 08:07 PMWell.. does showing up to work every day and paying my taxes count as getting involved? Because the government sure needs all the money they can get with how desperately and quickly they burn through it!
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Dec 12, 2020 08:51 PMBecause if you keep giving, giving, giving the problem of homelessness does the opposite of what it is intended to do . Homelessness will icrease so now instead of 5 tent houses soon you'll be needing ten, then 20 and before you know it you'll be building 100 . It's like feeding the starving in Africa ....you start by feeding a hundred then it's a thousand so you don't solve homelessness, you increase it .
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Dec 12, 2020 08:59 PMI agree they actually would rather they would not exist at all..
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Dec 13, 2020 10:22 AMBig Mack: So you recommend, it seems, that we stop feeding the starving (in Africa only?) as a humanitarian gesture!!?? Next thing you will be suggesting that they eat their babies to avoid starvation. Sick stuff.
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Dec 13, 2020 12:29 PM"Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association. Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but some of them diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing economic and political systems." - Wikipedia. Is this not correct?
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Dec 13, 2020 12:50 PM12:29 PM - It sounds vanilla, but doesn't match what they say and do.
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Dec 13, 2020 01:24 PMJust listen to Rand Paul or Ron Paul for a minute or two, and you'll get a great introduction to scattershot crazy.
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Dec 13, 2020 03:17 PMGENERALTREE, I agree wholeheartedly... and at Christmas time too, a bunch of Ebinezer Scrooges. SHAME. Some of us are only a paycheck away from homelessness... it's scary.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:42 PM'Build it and they will come'
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Dec 12, 2020 08:57 PMThey are already here and have been for some time.
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Dec 13, 2020 11:53 AMAnd more show up every day.
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Dec 13, 2020 03:16 PMBASICINFO805 They come anyway. They come for the weather. No one wants to be homeless in the snow. Are YOU a native? Why did YOU come here?
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Dec 13, 2020 07:05 PMBIGUGLY, I didn't come here. I was born here. And so we're my parents. I think I am a native, apart from not being Chumash. I'm aware of the draw to come here, the weather and benefits of the homeless lifestyle for all it entails, and that's exactly my point. There has to be a limit to free handouts that have zero incentive to improve oneself and get a job, rent a house, etc. The give-away programs are an absolute black hole.
Thanks Ugly
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Dec 12, 2020 07:45 PMSo aside from this article - I've looked at a lot of tiny homes online. I've come to the conclusion that I would never fit in one. I was looking at cheap property near lakes and tiny homes to make a vacation cabin of sorts. I think I'd need 3 -5 tiny homes connected together.
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Dec 12, 2020 07:54 PMI like that a solution is being sought to help people. These clean, well-designed huts are a good idea. Not sure if they lead to any long term solutions, but they are at least something.
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Dec 12, 2020 10:20 PMCheck my math here; 20 units for $900,000. is that not $45,000 per unit? Given the stated $4,900 cost per unit, it would seem that over $800,000 is going somewhere else. What am I missing here? $800,000 for porta-potties seems a bit much. Something is amiss here.
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Dec 12, 2020 10:41 PMNope, your math is spot on. To put it in perspective, that's $45,000/person for 6 months. How would you like to get $90,000/year to live on, just for doing absolutely nothing? Not too bad.
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Dec 14, 2020 12:24 AMYou could put twice the amount of people up for a year in a hotel at that cost. A place with electricity and restrooms. This tiny shed is a crock of outhouse waste...
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Dec 12, 2020 11:54 PMWent for a ride downtown tonight and saw a few tents, first time I've seen them downtown. What's happening in Santa Monica/LA is now starting to happen here. Expect to see more tent cities in town in the coming weeks/months.
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Dec 13, 2020 01:10 AMThe $900K is for the 20 shelters (as JB86 noted), plus multiple other expenses: care personnel labor costs (can cost big bucks), medical supplies, food and water, cooking supplies, shower facilities and bathrooms, clothing and toiletries, security, electricity, lighting (the portable outside lights cost hundreds), supplies for cleaning up after everyone, and trash pickup. Oops, did I forget communication expenses? Some of the $900K might be extra funds for unforeseen contingencies. And what about insurance? Crunched the numbers provided in the edhat article and come up with $9K per person per month. Not an unusual cost-per-month for a person with needs. If this seems high, go to https://www.seniorliving.org/nursing-homes/costs/ and see what a nursing home can cost per person per month in 2020. See how valuable we are? GeneralTree, I've done the same thing and would need a tiny home for me, a tiny home for my books, a tiny home for my clothes, a tiny home for my.... ChemicalSuperFreak, SuperFreak (I'll stop)...I agree that we are worth more than politics (hard as that may seem during this election year). A-1607827849, what does WWBMD stand for?...never mind, just figured it out. Could care less what he'd do. Regarding chocolate and vanilla, chocolate syrup on vanilla ice cream works for me every time. :-)
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Dec 13, 2020 07:24 AMUmm... no... 9k per month to house someone in a $4900 tiny house is crazy! They are using IV rec Dep land. We are already paying Marburg for quite a few porta potties in the tent village next door. Communication expenses??? What kind of communications are they setting Up? They already have free internet set up there?
No, this is classic government waste. I guess it justifies (and perhaps even creates!) a couple more 120k county/IV special district jobs. We aren’t solving any problems here... we’re making an existing problem bigger ...
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Dec 13, 2020 08:15 AMI agree with Duke. The math on this is crazy. The cost of the Pallet shelter themselves (while lower than some competitors) is questionable to begin with. Look at similar sheds on Home Depot - you can get them for half the price, or less. But a $9,000 per person / per month rent or cost for this is crazy. We could rent them all luxurious AirBnBs for that price. We are evaporating taxpayer money. If it costs $9,000 a month to house an unsheltered person in a shed, what kinds of costs are we being primed to tolerate for putting these people in actual housing? Los Angeles has made it clear they cannot build a unit of housing for a homeless person in need for less than I think the figure was somewhere around $550,000. Google it if you don't believe me. I think it's time to look into larger, more long-term prefabricated structures for the unsheltered and to place them on land that is neither coastal high-cost, nor in demand. We have a huge state and most of our population is in very small corridors. I guarantee you 75%+ of the unsheltered people who need homes are not from this area. And what they really need is addiction and mental illness treatment. But that is darn near impossible given the Lanterman Petris Short Act. And moving these people around given the 9th circuit ruling that we must offer them alternate suitable accommodation or else you can't kick them off public property makes it additionally impossible to do anything about this growing problem.
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Dec 13, 2020 11:47 AMLADY: The frustration being voiced stems from the fact that many people work hard, sometimes more than one job, to support themselves and their families. These hard working people often sacrifice luxuries and forgo vices so they can provide, often scraping by on less than $3,000/month and no one is helping them despite all their hard work. Then you have this other group of people, many of them young, able-bodied and completely uninterested in being responsible members of society. I’m not talking about mentally ill, as they should be cared for in hospitals. Are severely addicted people suffering from mental illness and should they be hospitalized? I’m not sure. Nevertheless, there are more-or-less healthy individuals who choose to live outside of societal norms and that’s the majority of the vagrants I see. They are lawless, often fighting with each other and stealing, though they know it to be wrong. They simply do not care. Now they’re going to receive upwards of $9,000/month because they choose not to behave??? Yes, the little prefab boxes don’t cost that much, and much of the money goes to supporting this project. Effectively the additional costs go to pay for cooks, clean up services, assistants, etc. I’ll bet families that work hard, obey the law, and scrape by on $3,000/month would love a personal chef, maid and concierge.
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Dec 13, 2020 08:27 AM900,000 ÷ 20 = 45,000
The project cost is approximately $900k, according to the article. Project - not just buildings.
It's like playing "telephone" reading these comments.
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Dec 13, 2020 11:16 AMRight... 900k to house 20 people for 5 months!!! What a crazy crazy Project!!!! I guess it will employ a few more gov employees to “oversee it”...
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Dec 13, 2020 08:37 AMI'm hopeful that there are community bathrooms or outhouses with washing areas set up for them as well. This is a GREAT start though!!
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Dec 13, 2020 11:18 AMGreat START???? Yikes!!!! If this is a great start, what are you hoping for next??? Where do we go after this “great start”?????
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Dec 13, 2020 09:07 AMAside from politics; aside from money; aside from religious beliefs, we know many of these people suffer from mental illness and/or drug/alcohol abuse. Many have no contact with family, if any. As you sit in your warm home, giving thanks for all that you have, it is the time of the year to think of others less fortunate that you. We don't know their stories and how they got where they are, but they are human beings, and it would be kind of you to think of their situation in a more compassionate way than criticizing them or the tiny shelter they are being offered. Can you change your thinking to "How can I help" instead of pointing a finger?? Food for thought.
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Dec 13, 2020 09:18 AMThis won't solve anything - yet more will come for the benefits.
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Dec 13, 2020 03:13 PMRUBAIYAT, They come anyway, they come for the weather. Building these tiny homes (and only 20 of them at that) will NOT bring in more homeless people, but it might just help a few get back on their feet.
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Dec 13, 2020 09:23 AMJust drove through Portland or. They allow homeless to take over. It was tent city. All along the freeways and from what we say they were able bodied stoned kids that the taxpayers are paying for. Enough is enough and no this is not a political statement. My friend owns a business up there. They use his land as a bathroom. Break into his business and steal things and this is ok?
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Dec 13, 2020 10:02 AMIt’s not okay. But what is the solution?
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Dec 13, 2020 09:44 AMHow are these 20 folks being chosen?
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Dec 13, 2020 12:01 PMWhy should the homeless choose where they receive their charity? Shouldn't the taxpayers make that decision?
How about placing these tiny homes out in the desert? Add in the porta potties and promise no law enforcement so that they can do whatever drug pleases them.
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Dec 13, 2020 12:26 PMHow about setting these up at County Mental Health on Camino del Remedio? (Way of the Remedy - I like it). Access to services abounds.
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Dec 13, 2020 12:37 PMThis is progress! Beats homeless people living in dry brush & starting warming fires on cold nights that threaten everybody! Please expand this program and get homeless out of the cold and out of dry brush! Looks like a win-win to me! : )
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