Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

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I heard on the scanner that a large group of kids went to a clothing store in the 600 block of State Street this afternoon and stole a lot of items. 

This was before 5:00 p.m. and the store was the Volcom clothing store. Initial scanner traffic stated the alarm went off after a group of 10 or more went into the store, took items, and left from the back door. 

It didn't sound like anyone has been caught yet. 

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RHS Dec 08, 2021 06:13 PM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

Chip, I have not read the Chronicle recently but it is historically a far right pape. With regard to the other issue, without regard to the statement on the nature of the "shoplifting" crime definition, taking property by force or violence is not petty theft, it is robbery. Robbery is a felony.

Chip of SB Dec 07, 2021 03:24 PM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

In addition RHS, I never thought of the San Francisco chronicle as a far right publication. However, they are apparently promoting the “far right nonsense” you are talking about. Here is a chronicle article describing how numerous storefronts in union square are boarded up this year due to a wave of looting.

Chip of SB Dec 07, 2021 03:16 PM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

Wrong RHS. Before prop 47, it was considered burglary to enter a commercial establishment with the intent to steal. Prop 47 created a new offense called “shoplifting.” As long as the value of the stolen property does not exceed $950, it is no longer burglary. See the prop 47 FAQ here:

RHS Dec 07, 2021 09:31 AM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

The trope that raising the petty theft definition means "looters will walk" is such far right nonsense that we should laugh but unfortunately it seems to resonate. A few facts: People who enter into a business with the intent of theft commit burglary, not petty theft. People who use violence to commit theft commit felony theft. People who are convicted for petty theft (even as newly defined) face at least 6 months in jail. Petty theft had been set at less than $400 for decades despite inflation. Long ago it was set at $200. No one claimed that raising it then resulted in a huge increase in petty theft. This is propaganda. The only issue right now is that misdemeanor arrestees (NOT these smash and grab criminals) will be released pending charges to avoid COVID problems in jails. This has to do with the pandemic and not with criminal justice reform.

Eggs Ackley Dec 07, 2021 08:37 AM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

Or we could hold parents responsible for their children’s deeds. A few nights in the klink with their kid should adjust parents’ attitudes and perspectives.

FondofSB Dec 07, 2021 02:19 AM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

Just last week I stated that gang store looters will soon "make it" in S.B.
That is exactly what is happening.
And many Edhat viewers are perfectly "fine" with the increased criminalization of our society !
Defund the police, no more bail, no more jails or prisons !

doulie Dec 07, 2021 06:36 AM
Theft at Downtown Clothing Store

FOND OF - What will Mom/Dad do when "little Johnny" or "little Susie" are seen wearing some new clothes they can't account for? I don't agree many viewers are "fine" with increased criminalization. I believe some are too fearful to speak out against the rabble now in charge at different levels of government. Some are content with letting others get involved to hopefully solve the problem; and a few just don't care. A person says something against what the rabble believe and they are jumped on. Look at what's happening to parents speaking out against some school board officials in different states. Hopefully, those that care, will use their vote to make positive changes. Until then, we will have to deal with these little groups of cowards, thieves and others as the law permits. As a side note, I am duly impressed. Some of these little clowns made their escape on a bicycle. Three-wheeler or two with training wheels, anyone know?


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