The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

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Scroll through the above slideshow depicting photos from as early as 1914 of Montecito Creek flooding

By Melinda Burns

The bulldozers are back at Randall and East Valley roads this month, working on the final phase of the Montecito’s newest debris basin — a giant bowl designed to trap boulders and fallen trees and help protect the downstream homeowners on San Ysidro Creek from catastrophic debris flows.

When it is finished in late August, the $10 million Randall Road basin will be the fifth on Montecito’s deadly creeks. The older basins on Cold Springs, San Ysidro and Romero creeks were quickly overwhelmed after the pre-dawn deluge of Jan. 9, 2018 and could not prevent the worst impacts of the raging rivers of mud, boulders and fallen trees that engulfed whole neighborhoods: 23 fatalities, 500 structures damaged or destroyed, 1,000 rescues in the first 24 hours, closure of Highway 101 for 13 days, and $1 billion in economic losses.

Montecito will be somewhat better protected next time — and there will be a next time. To help get ready, the county has spent $800,000 expanding the Cold Springs basin by 50 percent. Next year, work will begin on a sixth debris basin on Buena Vista Creek, for $3 million.

Even against the backdrop of these and other public works, though, much of Montecito remains exposed to dangerous debris-charged flows and floods. According to a $600,000, 168-page study of the historical record ( entitled “Fire, Flood and Landslide Dam History: Community of Montecito and Vicinity” and released this spring by the Project for Resilient Communities, these events are far from rare.

“Nobody suffered more than the people who went through it,” Pat McElroy, The Project’s executive director and a former City of Santa Barbara fire chief, said of the 1/9 catastrophe. “It was scarring for firefighters as well. This was such a rough experience that trying to learn more about it is sometimes the only way you’re going to get better.”

The study shows that both Montecito and Carpinteria have been hit with four other debris-charged events during the past 200 years that were larger than the 1/9 debris flow — the debris flows of 1825, 1861-62 and 1914; and the debris-laden floods of 1995. That’s an average “return interval” of 48 years between massive debris-charged events here. 

The 1914 debris flows wiped out Old Spanish Town, a small community on the banks of Montecito Creek. (Photo courtesy of the Montecito Association History Committee)

The debris flow of Jan. 9, 2018 in Montecito killed 11 people in what was once Old Spanish Town, below the East Valley Road bridge across Montecito Creek. (Photo by Mike Eliason, Santa Barbara County Fire)

All of these events cleared out vast amounts of boulders and trees from the canyons and permanently altered the topography of Montecito and Carpinteria. The worst was called “The Great Floods of 1861-62,” when 50 inches of rain fell in Santa Barbara. It was a regional event — the entire Central Valley of California was under water — and remains the largest flood event in the recorded history of the western United States.

In all, the study shows, the South Coast from Gaviota to Carpinteria has experienced 36 debris flows and debris-laden floods since 1825. Twenty-two of them engulfed large portions of Montecito and Carpinteria — and that tally is likely on the low side because the 19th-century record is sparse, researchers say.

“This was astonishing news to me,” said Larry Gurrola, The Project’s lead scientist and a consulting geologist with 27 years of experience in the tri-counties, “The news reports didn’t call them debris flows, but they referred to them as tidal waves of boulders, trees and water coming down the creeks and banks as a huge wave, destroying everything.”

Two-thirds of the time, Gurrola found, these debris-charged events occurred in post-wildfire conditions — the critical five-year period after a fire has devastated the mountainside and heavy rains are most likely to trigger an avalanche of mud. On 1/9, the massive Thomas Fire was still smoldering as boulders and burned vegetation surged downhill on a sea of mud.

Gurrola scoured newspaper archives; property records; geological survey, fire insurance, topographic and aerial maps; county, state and federal flood reports; and books and scholarly papers on the fire and flood history of Montecito and Carpinteria. He sought to determine the size and frequency of debris flows and debris-laden floods in Montecito, and he mapped the paths they took on Montecito Creek and its tributaries, Cold Springs and Hot Springs creeks.

Gurrola’s creek maps are reproduced in color in the study, along with dozens of historical photos in color and black-and-white — a remarkable record of a community battered time and time again in many of the same places.

“The recent past is key to understanding the near future,” Gurrola said. “If you remove boulders and vegetation from the flows at the canyon mouths, then they cannot impact homes downstream, and the flows are more likely to stay in the creeks.”

The Project, a non-profit group, now hopes to raise $2 million to map the debris flow paths for the rest of Montecito’s creeks. The goal is to help the county draw up a master plan for protecting the community, McElroy said.

“We’re trying to illuminate the problem and keep it in the public mind,” he said. “I think it makes some people nervous, but there’s no pretending it won’t happen again soon.”

The Project is best known for installing two steel “ring” nets each across Cold Springs, San Ysidro and Buena Vista creeks to catch debris above the existing basins — a $5 million project that was funded with private donations and completed in 2019.

The outlet at the Gobernador debris basin in Carpinteria has been modified as shown here to allow mud to pass through and capture more boulders and trees. The basin lies upstream behind the modified outlet. The county plans to similarly upgrade the outlets at the Cold Springs, San Ysidro and Romero debris basins, beginning this spring. (Photo by County Flood Control).

The 1914 catastrophe

After 1/9, UCSB geologists identified what they said was the previous debris flow of that magnitude in what is now Montecito, at least 1,000 years ago. But Gurrola contends that the 1914 debris flow was the “penultimate” event. In both 1914 and 2018, boulders and trees came surging out of the canyons during extreme rains, riding walls of mud 20 to 30 feet high. And because it was regional, the 1914 event was worse than on 1/9, Gurrola said.

In 1914, the Mexican-American community of Old Spanish Town on Montecito Creek was wiped out. Out of 2,500 people then living in Montecito back then, six died from the debris-flows and floods, roughly proportional to the 23 deaths on 1/9 out of a population of 8,600, Gurrola found. Of the 23 who died in 2018, 11 lived in what used to be Old Spanish Town, below the East Valley Road bridge across Montecito Creek.

Gurrola began the fire and flood study in 2018 under the auspices of Partners in Community Renewal, a Montecito nonprofit group, then switched over to The Project in 2020, along with the principal donor, an anonymous Montecitan. The Partners was founded by Curtis Skene, the East Valley Road resident who conceived the idea for the Randall Road basin and organized his neighbors on Randall to sell their destroyed properties to the county. Two residents of Randall and two people living just below East Valley in the Glen Oaks neighborhood were killed. 

In the course of his review of the historical record, Gurrola found that after wildfires, the creeks sometimes produced multiple debris flows within just a few years or even months  — a consequence of heavy rains, steep slopes, soft rock and vast amounts of vegetation on the mountainside. These findings contradicted a 2020 UCSB study that said it would probably take “hundreds to thousands of years” to build up enough material in the canyons to produce another large debris flow.

“That’s just not true, and it does give people the wrong impression,” Gurrola said. “The watersheds of Montecito and Carpinteria are capable of quickly regenerating ample boulder and vegetation debris.”

The Coyote Fire of 1964, for example, was followed by a debris flow in Montecito within two months, a debris-laden flood in Santa Barbara in 1967 and debris flows in Montecito and Carpinteria in early 1969, Gurrola said.

The debris flow deposits underlying Montecito have been shown to be up to 650 deep, and they go back 120,000 years. Geologists have been able to identify some of them, Gurrola said, but the historical record, cross-checked from multiple sources, provides a more accurate account of recent debris flows that have largely been covered up by urban development.

Ed Keller, a chief author of the UCSB studies and Gurrola’s former Ph.D. geology advisor, declined to comment. Gurrola’s work was reviewed by his mentor and co-author, J. David Rogers, a geological engineer at the Missouri University of Science and Technology and an expert in landslide hazards and levee failures.

In newspaper accounts of the 1914 debris flow, one eyewitness, Jose Graviel Hernandez of the Fithian Ranch in Carpinteria, compared it to the events of 1825 and 1862. He recommended adopting the practices of the indigenous people and settlers who kept the lower canyons clear of trees in the early1800s and let the flood waters radiate out onto the coastal plain.

Gurrola cited Richard Henry Dana’s “Two Years Before the Mast,” the 1840 classic from early California, to bolster Hernandez’ recollections of the 1825 debris flow, a regional event that flooded the Los Angeles, Santa Ana and San Diego rivers. In the book, Dana arrives in Santa Barbara to find that the beauty of the town has been diminished by the absence of large trees on the hillsides. He later learns that a great fire swept them off the hills in 1823, a fire so large that residents fled to the beach for several days to escape the heat of the blaze.

One of Gurrola’s more startling findings was his discovery of 10 debris flows and debris-laden floods that were caused by the collapse of landslide dams from Santa Barbara to Carpinteria during the past 200 years. A landslide would block a creek after heavy rains, forming a temporary lake. Then, within 24 hours, the dam would break, triggering a potentially deadly debris flow.

In March 1995, even as the floodwaters were receding, Gurrola found, an administrative law judge was killed on Sycamore Creek when a wall of water from a landslide dam outbreak crashed through his home and swept him downstream.

Several debris racks have been installed in the Randall Road basin to help trap large boulders and fallen trees. (Photo by Melinda Burns)

“Fire weather”

In recent weeks, instead of the usual “May Gray” pattern of overcast clouds, the South Coast was whipped with unseasonably strong winds under clear skies. Unlike the “sundowners” that intensify at sunset, these winds blew furiously down the canyons all night and for days on end. At the Montecito Fire Protection District, Chief Kevin Taylor kept a close eye on the unusual “fire weather” — 60-mile-per-hour winds with gusts of 70 miles per hour in the Montecito foothills. He called up an extra engine crew, just in case.

With help from a Cal Fire grant, Taylor said, the district has boosted its yearly budget for clearing roadside vegetation and thinning out brush in the foothills from $250,000 in 2020 to $435,000 this year.

“This is a very high priority for our board of directors,” he said. “Our community must be prepared for wildfire year-round.”

The hotter, drier, windier conditions created by climate change are expected to increase the frequency and intensity of extreme wildfires in the western United States. Simultaneously, scientists say, the frequency and volume of mid-sized heavy rainfall events will likely increase; and, in California, extreme wet and dry years will alternate more rapidly.

A study published last month in Science Advances concludes that by 2100, the number of extreme wildfires followed within one year by at least one extreme rainfall will increase by 50 percent in Southern California.

“Fires are happening more frequently; already, we have seen almost a doubling of the weather conditions that lead to wildfire since the 1980s in Southern California,” said Samantha Stevenson, a UCSB climate scientist who participated in the study. “At the same time, heavy precipitation rates are becoming more common.”

There are no easy answers for how or even whether to try to “build out of” the fire-flood cycle in Montecito, even as it becomes more dire. The vast debris basin that was built by the federal government in 1977 on Santa Monica Creek above Carpinteria is twice as big as the Randall Road project. In January, 2018, it filled once with debris and saved the city, leading county officials to call it “the hero” of the day. During the debris-laden floods of 1995, this basin filled twice.

But a basin the size of Carpinteria’s is not contemplated for Montecito, where the foothills are dotted with homes. Much of the mountainside, moreover, is not accessible by road.

In the wake of the damaging debris flows that followed the Coyote and Romero fires of 1964 and 1971, respectively, the county Flood Control director concluded that land near the mouths of creeks and along creek banks in Montecito “should probably not be built on at all.”

To comply with post-1/9 federal flood maps, many Montecito property owners must rebuild at higher elevations. Some are stockpiling dirt from the Randall Road dig for that purpose. Photo by Melinda Burns.

Unpredictable flow paths

To date, records show, the county has approved 111 building permits for Montecito properties that were badly damaged on 1/9, including homes, guest houses and garages. Many of the new structures must be elevated to comply with post-1/9 federal flood maps; some property owners are stockpiling dirt and rock from the Randall Road debris basin excavation for that purpose.

The county has no immediate plans to construct additional new basins beyond the one on Buena Vista Creek next year, but officials say the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is drawing up some recommendations. In the meantime, the county will launch a $7 million project this spring to modify the outlets on the Cold Springs, San Ysidro and Romero basins, so that mud will flow through and more boulders can be captured. The work will continue through next year.

History shows that the paths of debris flows are unpredictable from one event to the next. On 1/9, for example, the surging river of mud and rocks jumped out of the lower Montecito Creek bed, bypassed the debris basin near Casa Dorinda and flowed down Olive Mill Road.

Since 1861, the mouth of Montecito Creek, once located at what is now the Rosewood Miramar Beach hotel, has moved half a mile west. Before 1860, debris flows along San Ysidro Creek surged down what is now El Bosque Road, and future flows could take that path again, bypassing Randall Road, Gurrola said.

“Living a considerable distance from a creek in Montecito does not necessarily mean that a property is not at risk for inundation from mud,” he said. “No place is really safe.”

The Project installed its ring nets on stretches of creek well upstream from the county’s debris basins, obtaining five-year emergency permits. These are set to expire in December 2023. Gurrola recommends that the permits be renewed and the nets be left in place to complement the basins.

“Based on the flood history of Montecito, I think they serve a purpose,” he said. “They are on the smaller side, but they can act as a check dam once they fill up, to reduce the momentum of a debris flow. We absolutely need more of them.”

Any plans to construct a series of basins at the canyon mouths high above Montecito would likely be controversial, as are the ring nets themselves; because of drought, they haven’t been put to the test in storm conditions. Kevin Cooper, a consulting fire ecologist with Montecito Fire and a former U.S. Forest Service biologist who coordinated the pre-1/9 study on the potential impacts of the Thomas Fire, contends that the nets “haven’t been proven in their ability to help Montecito.”

“The number of existing nets is not big enough to make a difference, especially since the vegetation has grown back and the debris basins have been cleaned out,” Cooper said. “And this may not be the proper place for them because there are no roads up there.”

In the event of a debris flow, a helicopter would have to drop in a bulldozer so that the rocks and trees trapped in the nets could be redistributed immediately downstream. This would be a difficult and expensive proposition, especially in back-to-back storms, Cooper said, whereas dump trucks can reach the county basins by road and haul away the piled-up debris.

The Project’s study provides “a good wake-up call” by revealing the frequency of debris flows in Montecito, Cooper said. As a next step, he said, the community should consider creating more public space along its creeks “to break out of the destruction-construction cycle.”

“I think people rely too much on the idea that some kind of miraculous engineering is going to save everything,” Cooper said. “One of the most difficult decisions communities must make as climate change worsens flooding is moving part or all of the town away from dangerous areas.

“Is someone brave enough to start this conversation here?”

Melinda Burns is an investigative journalist with 40 years of experience covering immigration, water, science and the environment. As a community service, she offers her report to multiple publications in Santa Barbara County, at the same time, for free.

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bjgreen May 19, 2022 06:02 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Here's my post about the January 1914 flood from my Edhat column way back when in January 2014:
Storm Survivors. January 1914 began with a tango and ended with a torrent that people talked about for years. Sunday afternoon and evening, January 25, the skies opened up and deluged our city with 9.41 inches of rain. “Houses Carried Away; Bridges Torn Out; Boulevards Wrecked. … Three bridges along Mission Creek were carried out by the flood and two bridges on the east side were destroyed. A number of houses along the creek were also floated away.” Ocean waves swept over what is now Cabrillo Boulevard and carried away three sections of pavement 75 to 150 feet long. The beach was covered with sodden belongings, furniture, and even wagons that had been swept along by the wall of water that roared down Mission Creek. Witnesses said it sounded like a freight train."

Shasta Guy May 19, 2022 07:26 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

The rocks of the Rocky Nook area are also the tell tale signs of an old debris flow. I was curious about what those rocks were there, but after the Montecito debris flow their origin became clear.

tagdes May 19, 2022 09:53 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

The alluvial fan in Rocky Nook is from a few thousand years ago and started from Rattle Snake Canyon and down through Skofield Park.

Channelfog May 19, 2022 08:38 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

The fact that these debris flow contain so much material that they re-channel themselves is most disturbing. Predicting flow paths and safe areas becomes almost impossible. A very good article.

edney May 19, 2022 09:05 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Not sure why people in CA are not taught the longer history of changes in the climate anymore.
The great flood of 1860-61 should be taught in every CA school and the students could also learn that mega flood was only a 200 year storm and CA is actually overdue for a 500 year average storm.
A 200 year storm like 1860-61 would be catastrophic even without a fire preceding it, but a 500 year storm might reroute creeks even without having had a fire

Pschlage May 19, 2022 09:14 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

A great article. Based on the rock debris, I had estimated that there was a mud flow on each creek every 1,000 years. Obviously an under estimate. This article also points out that these are a combination of fire and storm related events that we have little control over. I have a feeling that the flood debris basins will be adequate in a small debris flow, however these large debris flows will overwhelm any flood control measures taken. The best alternative is to build on higher ground. That probably will not happen. Humans recognize only a limited time scale which is completely different than the geological time scale. I live next to Sycamore creek. The only thing saving us from the Montecito flooding was that the Tea fire had devastated the Sycamore creek watershed a number of years before the Thomas fire. The Thomas fire was unable to reburn the Sycamore creek watershed. After the next devastation fire on the Sycamore creek watershed, I will need to reconsider whether I want to take this risk.

Chip of SB May 19, 2022 01:09 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Pschlage, you bring up a very good point about how the burn scar from the tea fire mitigated the impact of the thomas fire. Fire is the best defense against fire. Our current management plan is to allow dead and overgrown vegetation to accumulate until a catastrophic unplanned fire, like the Thomas fire, occurs to clear it out. As an alternative, we could implement a regimen of planned fires in carefully designated sections of our watersheds to limit the area that is vulnerable to catastrophic fire and debris flow at any given time.

chico berkeley May 19, 2022 10:04 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

I'm sorry for all that died over the years.
4th Gen locals know to never build in the low lands of Montecito.
The 69' flow scared my best buddies dad who worked for flood control.
He moved out of there and went to Stanley Idaho and never looked back
The county knows or used to know these things and why they keep giving building permits for those lower areas is nothing but greed.
Let me add the builders are also complicit in the carnage over the years.
Sorry if this bugs you but that is the reality of the situation.

Chip of SB May 19, 2022 12:38 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Some claim that we are experiencing weather more extreme than ever before. However, the historical record puts recent fire and weather events in context. A fire in 1823 was so large that residents fled to the beach for days and all the trees were swept from the hills. That’s about as extreme as it gets, and you can be sure the weather conditions included extreme heat, dryness, and wind. Many claim that rainfall is becoming more extreme, but we haven’t seen anything in recent years that compares to nearly 10 inches of water coming down on that fateful day in 1914, much less the floods of 1861-2. Some claim that we are transitioning into a permanent drought, but don’t think for a minute that an extreme rainfall event like these couldn’t happen again. The historical accounts show that nature has unleashed more extreme drought, heat, wind, waves, and rain in this area than anything in living memory. We should plan accordingly. Finally, the post fire flooding and debris flow issue is not limited to montecito by any means. The city of Santa Barbara is also extremely vulnerable. See the below UCSB study from 2009. In particular, look at the map on page 49 showing the area that could be flooded by a fairly likely combination of fire and rainfall. The flooding could easily be far more severe if the extreme fires and rains of the 19th and early 20th centuries were to occur again. We need to construct much larger debris basins to defend our community from debris flows. In addition, we need to develop and implement a plan to manage the vegetation in the watersheds above our community to mitigate the risk of fire.

Channelfog May 19, 2022 07:11 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Millions of years? Actually, it is the youth of this geology that is the downfall. Much of this geology is in the 100's of thousands or 10's of thousands as in La Conchita. Said youth contributes to volatility and imminent threat, exceptionally dynamic

Channelfog May 19, 2022 09:11 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Well, yes you are correct. 5 million years IS, in fact, rather young. We now live in the shadow of a 1,500ft, billion year old, granite remnant of a once great volcano and the debris flow we live on is 500 million years old. Nothing really moves much here now, fire, flood or quake.

edney May 19, 2022 03:21 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

From Scientific American in 2013

a-1653017177 May 19, 2022 08:26 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Good article. I learned about it from reading Daniel Swain, Weather West.
If extremes become more pronounced, some pineapple express storms will wreak havoc.

edney May 19, 2022 03:32 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

From UCSD (with pictures and graphics to help the people who downvote)

"The thickest flood layer in the Santa Barbara Basin was
deposited in 1605. The sediment was two inches thick, a few
miles offshore. The 440 and 1418 floods each left layers more
than an inch thick. These compare with layers of 0.24 and 0.08
inch near the top of the core that were left by large storms in
1958 and 1964, respectively, which were among the biggest of
the past century. The three earlier floods must have been far
worse than any we have witnessed."

edney May 19, 2022 03:43 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

The key takeaway from the UCSD article would be that looking at the data in the SB Channel core samples from the 1605 Flood in CA, it must have been an absolute whopper... perhaps 4 to 5 times as big as the 1861-1862 storm

a-1653007389 May 19, 2022 05:43 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

I hope members on the Montecito Planning Commission and residents in that area read this report. They spent hours yesterday complaining about the new freeway lane and the removal of plans for a sound wall. The sound wall was scrapped after it was found to be a danger in the event of another debris flow. One commissioner stated she has lived here for thirty years and there had never been a flood that reached the freeway before 1/9. Public commenters also made the claim that this 200 year flood was unlikely to happen again. Pure ignorance on their part. When will we ever learn that history repeats itself? Anyone who has lived here long enough and had parents or grandparents here know the documented history of our local watersheds. The fire/ flood process will continue.

Apparently some in Montecito think a sound wall is more important than the safety of the community. Cal Trans and local planners have gone above and beyond to mitigate noise and landscape removal from the freeway expansion . They have held it up for 30 years and it hasn’t turned out very well. The widening of the freeway in Carp is horrid. It looks like Camarillo or LA. But not in Montecito. They have special seamless pavement that makes less noise, special patina guard rails and a colored concrete center divider. The landscaping is quite nice but apparently still not enough to appease some residents in Montecito.

a-1653017403 May 19, 2022 08:30 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

How do insurance companies view these homes? I just read about Florida's catastrophic home insurance situation. Can houses along Montecito creeks and in flood plains purchase insurance?


edney May 19, 2022 10:23 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

They can purchase fire insurance. The State of CA has informed Insurers that they cannot deny claims for floods that occur after a fire.
They can also get Federal flood insurance. But it only covers $250K.

Go here;

Edhat Staff May 20, 2022 01:24 PM
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The below comment was sent to edhat and is posted below with permission of the author:
"The house shown at the top of the article was my folk's home in 1969 at 1790 Glen Oaks.  This time 2018) it was beyond repair for the new owner since 2009. I was living alone there in '69 and escaped by the skin of my teeth in the pre-dawn hours. Upon return after fleeing to the high country (above Park Lane) with my dog, since my car was in the shop for repairs, I returned to a very similar-looking home, but not quite as bad.  My parents, Ken and Ellie Simpson had a crew working for months just to get all the mud packed into the crawlspace under the house sluiced out by pumping water in from San Ysidro Creek and then pumping the slurry back out.  It took over a year to rebuild and redo the landscape that was denuded.  The lot is currently for sale for $2 million and I feel no one should ever live there again despite the Randall Road debris flow basin just now being finished."
-Gary Simpson, owner of the Santa Barbara Home Improvement Center

Watcher237 May 20, 2022 02:58 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

This is incredibly important information. Thank you, thank you Melinda for turning in the results of your great research. Let's hope the County and local cities take a step back and consider this information. Then, act accordingly. This is exceptional journalism!

Channelfog May 20, 2022 04:04 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Watcher237- 100% agreed, though I doubt the County can do much about land that is already developed. This really changes the game for all Montecito residents who are not on high ground as the debris flows are clearly not limited to the immediacy of riparian corridors as I/we had assumed.

twobits May 21, 2022 08:42 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

Is there no culpability on the agencies who approved building in these areas in the first place? The photographs show the writing on the wall... So tragic more lives were lost.

edney May 21, 2022 11:47 PM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

There are a few homes being rebuilt near the bridge above Casa Dorinda, one on Oak Grove, and several below Parra Grande that I would avoid as well. There is a home on Mountain Drive across the street from the Cold Spring Trailhead with no escape route at all that missed being wiped out by a hair.
People have short memories, and if you don't believe me, go look at La Conchita

a-1653212457 May 22, 2022 02:40 AM
The 1/9 Debris Flow Was Not So Rare

How timely. Article about riches and risk in Montecito, from SF Gate:

"Montecito also happens to occupy one of the most dangerous and increasingly active climate change-fueled disaster footprints in the U.S. To live there not only means paying a premium — but risking it all. Despite the wealth of its residents, this tony neighborhood is almost uninsurable."

"Guehr just sold a $12M house and the buyers secured a $160k/year insurance plan.
McDermut's client pays $45k/year on a home previously insured for $8k."

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