Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

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Source: Los Padres National Forest

Los Padres National Forest officials raised fire restrictions July 3 to prohibit campfires anywhere on the Forest except in designated campgrounds. Due to increasing hazards associated with the seasonal decline of fuel moisture levels and predicted fire weather, Forest officials announced that a ban on recreational target shooting throughout the Forest will take effect on July 7, 2018.

Under the Forest Order, discharging a firearm is prohibited in all areas of Los Padres National Forest except in the designated target ranges at Winchester Canyon Gun Club and the Ojai Valley Gun Club.

Zone "A" rifle deer season, which includes the majority of Los Padres National Forest, opens August 11, 2018. Zone "D-13," which includes the Mt. Pinos Ranger District and parts of the Ojai Ranger District, opens October 13, 2018. A person hunting during open hunting season for a game bird or mammal as specified in the laws of the State of California and having a valid California hunting license in his or her possession may discharge a firearm at legal game birds or mammals.

A violation of this prohibition is punishable by a fine of up to $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six months, or both. Law Enforcement Officers will be strictly enforcing this Forest Order in all areas of the Forest.

This restriction will remain in effect until the end of fire season in late autumn.

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Channelfog Jul 10, 2018 08:55 AM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

The public is welcome to shoot at the Winchester Canyon Gun Club on weekends for a small fee. Members can shoot anytime during daylight hours except on the Solstice. The Glass Factory is an unregulated, often dangerous, disgrace to shooting enthusiasts. The Gun Club is a safe and sane place to shoot without risking fires, or endangering anyone. After being challenged by the Sierra Club W.C.G.C., spent considerable funds for environmental tests. These tests showed that lead contamination is contained on the site in the berms and is not escaping into the National Forest. This is arguably the most responsible and safe place to shoot. Join and support the club.

macpuzl Jul 09, 2018 02:30 PM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

Farther down in the same article, accompanied by a photo of a fire retardant drop: "Target shooting caused nine wildfires at the Glass Factory site between 1995 and 2016. This site has the highest frequency of shooting-caused wildfires in the forest, costing millions of dollars of taxpayer funds to suppress and threatening residents in Santa Barbara just a few miles away. In this photo, a helitanker drops water on a fire at the Glass Factory in October 2011."

a-1542392605 Jul 09, 2018 09:15 AM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

No guns, no machinery, no nothing that causes a spark or anything capable of starting a fire. Pretty simple, quit whining about it.

RHS Jul 09, 2018 08:29 AM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

Gun nuts confirm the suspicion that they are just that when they complain about restrictions on their shooting in high fire risk areas on the theory that the chance of fire is small. They are apparently above the community obligation that others accept as part of society.

Concerned4Calif Jul 08, 2018 10:52 PM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

I would have thought shotguns were a bigger risk given the powder load. It seems not so easy to start a fire with a gun though. Think about the number of rounds fired at the 3 ranges - especially the happy canyon range or the even more at glass factory. Maybe 100's of thousands, yet I can't remember any fires at these ranges.

macpuzl Jul 09, 2018 07:37 AM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

To refresh your memory, here is an excerpt from a Los Padres National Forest document (https://lpfw.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Forest-in-the-Crosshairs-Final-for-web.pdf). ================================== "We identified 12 target shooting sites within the Santa Barbara Ranger District. These sites are located primarily along Camino Cielo Road, just a short drive from the cities of Santa Barbara, Goleta, Montecito, Carpinteria, and the Santa Ynez Valley. Even though this area contains a privately-managed shooting range under permit with the U.S. Forest Service, and three other designated (but unmanaged) shooting sites, much of the surrounding forest lands are littered with dispersed shooting areas. The “Glass Factory” at Arroyo Burro is the most popular shooting area in the forest, and it is regularly littered with broken glass and household appliances. Several wildfires caused by target shooting have occurred there."

Concerned4Calif Jul 08, 2018 05:41 PM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

I would like to see a test to see just how hard or easy it is to ignite a grass fire with gun fire. You could get a fire truck to stand by and fire different types into targets & rocks with plenty of combustible grass around and see if anyone can actually get it to ignite.

a-1542392605 Jul 09, 2018 12:20 PM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

The tab is to be paid by the tax payers. The gun lovers are entitled to anything they want, at the expense of all others in our society, simply because over 2 centuries ago, our founding fathers decided we should keep that right to protect ourselves from tyrannical, occupying forces, armed with muskets.

macpuzl Jul 08, 2018 05:58 PM
Target Shooting Banned in Los Padres Forest

Very easy with steel core ammunition at high velocity like your typical NATO 5.56 round, from hitting both rocks and the old washing machines favored by the less-than-conscientious types that populate the casual shooting areas.

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