Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

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Dr. Susan Salcido, County Superintendent of Schools (courtesy photo)
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By Jerry Roberts of Newsmakers

Santa Barbara County Superintendent of Schools Susan Salcido frames her campaign for re-election as a choice between “bringing folks together” on local education concerns and a “national playbook” wielded by conservatives in the politically polarized culture wars.

A five-year incumbent, Salcido was elected without opposition four years ago, after being appointed in 2017 to serve the final year of her predecessor’s term. On this year’s June 7 ballot, however, she faces a challenge from outspoken Santa Barbara teacher Christy Lozano, who has used social media, plus interviews on Fox News, local TV and Christian and pro-homeschool niche online programs to capture attention for her aggressive attacks on “woke” education.

A contested race for the county school post, a job which is largely administrative, is rare in Santa Barbara; before Salcido’s 2018 election walkover, former Superintendent Bill Cirone was elected to nine – 9, count ‘em, 9 – consecutive four-year terms, consistently without opposition.

Now, however, local public school conflicts across the nation - most notably in Virginia and Florida -- over Covid vaccines and masks, anti-racism instruction and curricula that includes discussion of transgender and LGBTQ issues have generated a volatile political atmosphere and revealed deep community divides over these and other hot button disputes. And Santa Barbara has not been exempt from heated and uncivil discourse over Covid safety measures and heated strife over sex and race in education.

“There is a political agenda that's getting pushed into races and elections, like County Superintendent of Schools,” Salcido told Newsmakers in an interview.

While avoiding direct mention of her opponent, she added: "This is not the time for this politicization in education, the divisiveness. We're seeing it. We're feeling it. We're hearing it. We're experiencing it...

"It is not the time for a national playbook of aggressive agendas that have nothing to do with collaboration and working towards something actionable to support our students," she added. "I'm about bringing folks together. Really, this is the time. We have been through such crisis..

In the first in-depth interview of her campaign, Salcido also provided a crash course in the duties, responsibilities -- and limitations -- of her office; discussed the overall poor performance on state's standardized achievement tests of the county's 70,000 public school students; and offered prescriptions for improving literacy and mathematical learning through "individualized instruction" and "expanded learning opportunities."

Speaking in torrents of words, rippling with edu-speak and coursing with cross-currents of cautionary qualifier clauses, she also answered critical questions about the fall-out of Covid and school shutdowns during the past two school years -- from a surge in absenteeism, increased behavioral problems and a spike in student mental wellness concerns, to "learning loss," staff shortages, teacher "fatigue" and morale problems.

"We've lost time," Salcido said, in describing the educational impacts of Covid. "The online environment, while it worked for some, was very challenging for many, or most. And so now we need to make up that time.

"So you're going to see more summer school offerings, longer school days that aren't required or mandatory, but they're after school. Those are the ways in which we're addressing supports for students that are going back and helping to accelerate learning...And so what's happening, what needs to happen, is that individualized support."

Christy Lozano is scheduled to be interviewed on Newsmakers TV this week.

By way of background.

In 1879, the California Constitution (Article 9, Section 3) established the elected office of County Superintendent of Schools in each of California's 58 counties.

Ever since, some Californians have scratched their heads, trying to figure out exactly what these 58 education leaders actually do. As our friend Nick Welsh recently put it, the job is "the most important, least understood elected office nobody ever heard of."

Key point: County Superintendents are separate and distinct from the superintendents of local school districts, each of which operates independently; think Santa Barbara Unified, Goleta Union and Carpinteria Unified, which are just three of 20 local districts in the county.

"I think that's an area of need for explanation," Salcido acknowledged. "So all the 20 school districts have a district superintendent and a school board. And there, at that local level, they're making decisions around their schools. So for example, curriculum, materials, their goals for their schools, how they're going to spend their funding, the budget, all of those are local decisions, including who they hire, what their salary schedules are. They hire their superintendent, for example, that's part of what a local board does."

In her post, the 48-year-old Salcido earns $278,000 in annual salary and benefits to manage a county educational bureaucracy that has 550 employees and a total budget of about $104 million.

Overseen by a low-profile, seven-member county Board of Education elected by district, the County Education Office in large measure is an administrative government agency, acting on behalf of local school districts as a clearinghouse, pass-through, analyst, interpreter and liaison with California's maddeningly complex state public education system.

The California Education Code, longer than War and Peace and more stupefying than Moby Dick, contains 69 Parts, each with between one and a dozen Chapters, each with a multiplicity of Articles -- and the Governor and Legislature never cease amending, adding to, deleting from, meddling with and tweaking it. Part of the job for the Superintendent and her staff, is to be familiar with the policies and regulations set forth in the Code, not only in support of the local districts, but also in pushing back on their behalf against Sacramento.

"The work that I do.....really requires experience and understanding of complex systems," Salcido said. "We're working with complex systems of goals and accountability, (and) we've got to have that experience in order to do that."

Salcido and the Board have a raft of other executive responsibilities, such as reviewing and signing off on district budgets; making site visits; preparing annual required reports on some districts; completing the credentialing process for teachers, and providing professional development programs for them.They also adjudicate appeals of student expulsions and inter-district transfers, as well as charter school applications.

Further, the County Education Office identifies, applies for, disperses and oversees outside educational grants, often worth millions of dollars, that help support local districts with programs that range from mental wellness to technical, vocational education.

“We need to identify what's really needed, know what the systems in the state are, so that we can go for those grants and then partner with regional partners in Santa Barbara County and provide them for our schools on behalf of our students," Salcido said.

The role of the County Education Office in direct teaching and classroom instruction is relatively limited, but crucial. Perhaps most significantly, county professionals tend to the education of about 700 students with disabilities or special needs who attend classes in small school districts.

"My staff are serving within schools for students with disabilities from Cuyama all the way down to Montecito," Salcido said. "That's one area of direct student support. Another one is, we operate preschools...my staff are operating 10 preschools within Santa Barbara County for low-income families.

"And then a third one, that I think is very commonly known for county education offices around the state, is serving students who are adjudicated youth. So those in the Santa Maria Juvenile Justice Center, Los Prietos Boys Camp...that's my principal, our team, our staff who are serving students there."

Born and educated in public schools in Santa Maria, Salcido earned a BA and a Master's degree at UCSB, followed by a Phd from USC's School Education. She worked as a teacher and principal before joining the County Office of Education in 2006, working her way up to Deputy Superintendent under Cirone.

When he retired in 2017, the Board of Education followed his recommendation and appointed Salcido to fill out the final year of his last term, and she was elected to her own, four-year term the following year.

Now, for the first time, she faces an opponent.

"I really do hope our voters will rehire me," Salcido told us, "because I have work I'd love to do on behalf of our students and districts in Santa Barbara County."

You can watch our complete interview with Susan Salcido via YouTube below or by clicking through this link. The podcast version is here.

Some key quotes, edited for length and clarity:

On dismal test scores in SB County schools. "Well, we can look back and historically around the results of students in literacy and in mathematics and in science. But I want to say those are point in time exams. They're happening right now in our schools, for example. They're multiple days long. Students to opt to take them, or parents will opt them in or out to take them.

"And it is an indication, but it isn't everything. I think it's really important that we frame or reframe students and their learning. Let's not use a sweeping generalization of, "They are failing" or "Teachers are failing," or "Schools are failing." I think it's really important to say, 'Let's think about our classrooms.'..

"...But it's really, really important that we individualize instruction. That's what the sophisticated profession of teaching is all about, is to see how are our students doing in my class, on this subject, on this unit, and then understand how we can progress and support. But I'd say that literacy and reading, mathematics, essential. We've absolutely need to focus there."

On strategies for literacy. "It really is dependent upon each district and what approach they adopt...Curriculum decisions, instructional models, are all decided upon by a (local) school district. And so Santa Barbara Unified School District will have implemented their approaches to reading and literacy different from (others)...They'll have their own approach. And so it's difficult from me to say... I really cannot say why they chose what they chose, but I can say that statewide, and including countywide, we're really looking at literacy in a different way...

We really want to say, "Okay, what are the different approaches there are? What are the ones that are most successful? And let's really dig into that learning, and work with experts in the field of literacy, and then implement that, and actually support the implementation of that with school districts. So it's not that the county office would say, 'Here's how you all have to do it.' That's just not our role. That is just absolutely usurping a local school board's role.

But what we can do is say, 'Here are the methods that we know from the statewide research, the research we've done, that can support your district as you are thinking about implementation of literacy and reading in your district.".

On pandemic "learning loss." "When schools reopened, and they reopened in different spaces, time, it was very, very different across the county...Frankly, what I was hearing about mostly was the behavioral shifts of our students… What happened was, after being away from an in-school environment, students actually needed to learn again what it was like to be in person. And behaviors were really, really challenging to where we had to learn again how to go from class to classroom, how do you communicate in a classroom with others. It was a really huge... something that I think we didn't expect, but needed to address is that those behavioral shifts needed to occur.

On what to do about it. “We really are focused as a school system around extended learning opportunities for students specifically for this purpose...What needs to happen is that individualized support. So there's tutoring after school, for example. Really targeted supports for after school, before school….

"The special piece is to really focus in, as school systems across California, but in Santa Barbara county to say, 'All right, (district) superintendent, school leaders, 'how are we going to support our students in extra ways?' And that's really what we're focused on. There's expanded learning opportunity grants, really there's extra funding for after-school supports. It's not just only play time or extracurricular after-school supports. We're talking about focused, focused literacy support, tutors in that are trained in support for students in mathematics specifically, or literacy specifically there...

"Right now we're shifting to using the language of community schools so that we can have more resources at schools to support that, what you've been calling the learning loss. We really need to have more. We've lost time...so now we need to make up that time. So you're going to see more summer school offerings, longer school days that aren't required or mandatory, but they're after school. Those are the ways in which we're addressing supports for students that are going back and helping to accelerate learning...

On declining student enrollment and attendance. "I think in terms of the attendance rates decreasing, I'm reading the headlines as you are reading the headlines and it's across California. I'm also speaking with our superintendents about the shifts in attendance, there's unknown information and then there's known information. We know that in public schools, many families chose to have their children attend private schools. The charter schools, which are public schools, their numbers increased as well. People moved away, moved out of California and out of the districts. We don't have great tracking for when they move out of a district. Once they move out, we aren't able to track from state to state. So there's some unknown data as well."

On spikes in chronic absenteeism. "I think the rates for COVID, people were not wanting to report that they had COVID so they aren't reporting attendances. I think that is a bit bumpy as to an explanation there. We need to look more into what were the reasons for additional chronic absenteeism. That's something we do track. We have great partnership with the District's Attorney's office as well with the truancy program. That's something we can circle back and get more information about.

On the teacher shortage. "I am so concerned about the teacher shortage and the staffing shortage in our schools, because everything that we spoke about...what work we have done, are doing, want to do for our students, you have to have staff to do it. Every (economic) sector that I, well I don't want to generalize, but I've heard from so many sectors that they also have shortages, but in teaching and special education, it is incredible...

"We have the money to hire individuals. We need the individuals to hire, in order to make a difference in our schools. It's a bit of a catch -22 right here, because we need to have people that are trained and qualified to support our students. And we are lacking significantly."

On teacher morale. "The morale right now is something that is tender. And I'm really, really mindful of that. . It is an absolute reality around teacher morale....We've been through a lot in the education system. Like it or not, we've been through a lot in the education system. And our teachers, when we first were on Zoom, boy, they got a lot of credit. You heard families and celebrities were coming out and saying, 'Oh, these teachers are heroes.'

"And right now, they're fatigued. They are expected to do so much more than in their classroom. And they've become COVID monitors, and they're supporting their students in their emotions as well. The criticisms that we are hearing about 'failing schools' that we just talked about a moment ago, and 'what are you all doing?'...That framing is really challenging for teacher morale.

And let's hook it back to the need for more staff. We need to have more staff that are highly qualified, that are excellent individuals and instructional staff for our students. Is this the environment right now that individuals want to come into, that they want to enter into?"

On student mental health. "I don't have this scientific data yet, but I think we'll have that soon. I'm hearing from counselors at schools across the county that their referrals from teachers for mental wellness supports for their students has, in many cases, doubled. So there's double referrals happening.

"Coupled with that is that we need to have places for the students and the families to go. So when I talk to the psychologists and support people and external providers like CALM and Family Services Agency, they are booked. They have many, many individuals on a waiting list so that they can serve these students really well. So it's a traffic jam. The need is high. These individuals want to provide service, but they too are having a staffing shortage.

On the risks of too much student screen time. "I'm going to say this is a sensitive topic for a lot of families, really, because I think what's happening is we're experiencing way more screen time at home than we even want to admit in terms of our children being on screens. And I think what has happened is, and I speak for myself included, I have two kids at home, it's we have our parameters around being on the screen, but it is hard. It's so tempting. The students and youth are so tempted into being online, being on screen time, social media.

"We were so reliant on it two years ago. Everyone had to have these devices. And then we talked about connectivity as a utility, just like water and electricity. I mean, there was such a focus on it, and it was celebrated. 'Ah, we have connectivity. We have devices.' And so now we insisted our students, kindergarten, all the way up, use devices all day. I mean, we were saying, 'That's what you have to do.' And now we're at a place of, 'Wow, there's a lot of extra screen time.'

On social media and students. "Not every parent can sit right next to their child while they're on the screen all day. Oftentimes, what'll happen is the screen's over there and the family's over here, so it's not being monitored carefully. And I say that, again, not generalizing, and I don't want to accuse anybody, but what I'm saying is, what is on TikTok now, and what's on Instagram now, and what's on social media in Snapchat, are things that aren't necessarily visible to all of our parents and guardians. And I think that's an area where we've got to really, really watch.

And I know, for sure, that ways in which youth are enticed are through those social media modalities that we are not always on. Some of the grownups, we're on Facebook. Children, youth, they're not there. And so we've got to be really, really careful about the screen time, for sure, but also what is being watched, and what social media inputs there are external for our youth."

On Fentanyl and other drugs in schools. "It's a real crisis that we need to focus on right now. That is an area of crisis right now in the nation, in the state, and in Santa Barbara County, an absolute crisis of which we need to focus as a community. And this is an area where I think that having a broad understanding of the resources around the County are so, so important, in school, but also in many different sectors.

To me, it's important that we educate. It's really about educating our school people. I've already spoken with our superintendents to speak about, 'Let's get this education to our school folks, really, to our parents, to our community members.' And that's an area of focus that we really need to be looking at quickly."

On the politicization of education. "This is not the time for this politicization in education, the divisiveness. We're seeing it. We're feeling it. We're hearing it. We're experiencing it. There were families who were genuinely concerned about the masks and vaccines. I completely understand that. I hear that. I hear it. I listen to it. I understand that they're concerned. It's gone beyond that. There is a political agenda that's getting pushed into races and elections, like County Superintendent of Schools.

It is not the time for a national push playbook on agendas that have nothing to do with collaboration and working towards something actionable to support our students. We cannot have that national playbook push in these aggressive agendas in our schools. We need to focus on students, on teachers, on parents, listening to their voices, and making really good decisions so that our students can be, as we talked about, successful."

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fitz Apr 28, 2022 07:59 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Some conservative extremist group called New California State seems to be pushing the opponent as 'phenomenal' as quoted on our local Next Door. They mention her speaking after Bill Brown at some 'forum' that wasn't well-publicized. So she has her acolytes. In this election, if you support competency. experience, and public education, you should vote for Salcido.

GoletaisGood Apr 28, 2022 02:27 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Ummm. Duke, Salcido did not shut down schools. Each school district made decisions related to the county and state health orders... and remember that the first closure order came from the governor.
The article (or SBCEO's website) does a pretty good job of explaining the functions of the county ed office. Their functions include managing district payrolls, IT support, overseeing mandated school/district reporting requirements like LCAP, running early childhood education programs and providing support for moderate or severely disabled kids which includes all of the kids across the county who are not yet school age. So, I'd say that competency and experience of managing such responsibilities are important.

sacjon Apr 28, 2022 01:49 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

DUKE - eh, maybe we would have. Hard to tell. But, would that alone cause you to vote for a Superintendent with zero experience who supports banning discussion of LGBQT issues, wants to prohibit teaching the truth about American History in terms of white privilege, etc? I know you're kinda conservative, but really? You really think our children (and the children of others who might not be white and straight) will benefit from Lozano?

dukemunson Apr 28, 2022 12:54 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Sac - Of course I would have done better...and so would you! We both strongly agreed that schools should be opening in the Fall of 2020, like they were at virtually all private schools (plus rich public schools like Cold Springs). There was a literal worldwide consensus that schools needed to stay open as long as possible, and reopen as soon as possible. Sb and Goleta school districts though (like much of California) ignored all reason and logic and closed. GUSD took over 10 million on federal reopening funds in Summer of 2020 and then...didn't reopen! Didn't make any effort to reopen either. So yes... I could (and would) have done better, as would you have. Our school districts completely abdicated their duty and failed our children. That doesn't mean this other candidate is worthy or good...but to defend the school board as "experienced and competent" is ridiculous and completely divorced from reality.

Voice of Reason Apr 28, 2022 09:55 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

The CDC had a game plan for various levels of pandemic both below, and well above, the mortality of Covid-19. Even in the worst case scenario, where they assumed millions would die per year and where they assumed it would impact children severely (unlike covid), their recommendations were to keep schools open as much as possible and in the absolute worst case, they should close for nor more than a few weeks when community case rates were extreme. They threw the playbook out the window for Covid.

SBStoner Apr 26, 2022 06:10 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

I never learned a second of CRT in schools (SB Unified mid 2010s). I don’t think that school should be particularly politicized towards either side of the table.

I think a simple solution would be to have an easier process to review performance (of students, teachers, all the way up to the admins) and then vote when things need fixing.

They say why fix something when it isn’t broken but nowadays it seems a lot of conversations are had behind closed doors or policies are enacted without participation from the general public.

sacjon Apr 27, 2022 10:23 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

GOLETAISGOOD - EXACTLY. CRT is not, as a subject/theory, etc, taught in K-12 as part of the curriculum. What IS being taught though, is American History and sometimes with discussion of racism and how white privilege played a part in our nations development. That is not necessarily "CRT," but the right continues to portray any mention of racism or truth about whiteness in America as "CRT." It's similar to how they, even here on this thread, cry foul about teachers "teaching sexuality" to "6 year olds." Teaching and discussing are two different things, both of which would be banned by the "Don't Say Gay" bills being pushed by ONLY Republican governors.

This is the problem with these people, they hear "racism" and scream "stop teaching CRT!" They hear a teacher discussing why some kids have 2 dads or 2 moms and they scream "stop teaching homosexuality!"

GoletaisGood Apr 27, 2022 09:40 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

SBSTONER - like you said, you did not experience CRT being taught in the schools you went to. Because it is not. Yet, certain media outlets will keep saying that it is - over and over again. They completely misrepresent what CRT is and want to convince their viewers that it is rampant in public schools and supported by "lefty libs". This repetition works in spite of contrary evidence - They do this to influence you - to get you angry, angry at the "libs" so you get out and vote the other way. Sadly, we've confused listening to pundits as listening to the news.
K-12 Teachers are faced with engaging their students in the curriculum, managing their classroom environments to be a respectful place, getting students to do homework and classwork so they learn the material etc... - there is no concerted effort or even interest for them to add the university level framework of applying CRT to examine the historical or societal conditions of what they are teaching from a race based perspective. People that think that this is a significant issue in public schools are either disingenuous or gullible. Kind of like the "stolen" election...

gcheadley Apr 26, 2022 04:22 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Last I checked the dictionary, the opposite of "woke" is "slept", "lay dormant", "dozed off", or "vegetated". Slang definition or not, the opposite of "woke" also seems to imply "un-educated", "unwilling to get an education", "racist", homophobic", "facist", and "mysoginistic", you name it. Message to all of you un-wokers, there is still time to get your GED, get a university degree, travel and to learn how to experience the world with your eyes open.

sblocal1967 Apr 26, 2022 01:22 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

There are two sides to this debate. One side led by people like GT who want our educational system to fail and produce more lazy uneducated liberal voting lefties who rely on government handouts. The other that just wants kids to learn so that they can grow up and become productive adults regardless of their political affiliation. Anyone who thinks the current K-12 leadership in CA is doing a good job is completely delusional. I think Trump is an orange idiot as are many of the idiots that stormed the capital and that think Corona Virus vaccines has micro-chips. Salcido started this debate by slamming parents who just want their kids to be educated and calling this some divisive "national playbook". What a clown. I will take an inexperienced person like Lozano with common sense over someone like Salcido anyday.

Voice of Reason Apr 28, 2022 02:34 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

First, straight is a sexual orientation, and a biological male identifying as he/him is also gender identity. Straight, gay, trans, whatever, K-3 public school isn't the place for that type of discussion. But yes Sacjon, as disturbing as it is you've made it very clear you think it's okay for teachers to talk about sexual preferences and sexual identity with kindergarteners. I strongly disagree.

sacjon Apr 28, 2022 01:43 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

WRONG, absolutely 100% WRONG. Show us where in the language of the bill it says "sexual issues." Here, I'll help you. It doesn't. Here's the language: " prohibiting classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity" and " instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity" https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF

It's absolutely HILARIOUS that you come here crying about "propaganda" and then make up your own lies and propaganda. This bill DIRECTLY affects LGBGT students. Sexual orientation and gender identity are strictly non-straight issues. Stop lying man.

To answer your irrelevant question about me supporting teachers, I've already explained that. FIRST of all "6 year olds" and "kindergartners" aren't the only ones affected. That's only ONE FOURTH of the kids being affected, so stop with the hysterics. SECOND, teachers should be able to discuss and address issues/questions etc that come up with regard to these issues without fear of losing their jobs or being sued by the parents. Question is, why do you support this discriminatory bill?

sacjon Apr 28, 2022 09:20 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

VOICE - are you seriously asking for examples of how the Republican party has attacked education? Take a look at the article you're commenting on for some examples. Pushing to ban books, "Don't Say Gay" bills, cutting funding for private education at every chance they get, Betsy DeVos (everything she stood for), attacking the teaching of aspects of American History under the guise of "CRT," the list goes on......

Of course, your response will be it's all "leftist propaganda" yet you'll agree with the policies, thereby negating your claim that it's merely propaganda that they exist. The cycle continues.

Voice of Reason Apr 28, 2022 08:25 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Please explain how in Democrat controlled CA, where they have a super majority and total control, where the state not the feds have total control over the public education system, how exactly the "republiclowns have denigrated education, increased its cost, and pandered to the lowest common denominator for decades"? Seriously, I would appreciate understanding how they had anything to do with the current state of our school system here in CA!

edney Apr 27, 2022 07:34 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

"Obviously, you see education as some sort of credential that entitles you to a certain salary
Not al all. You have it exactly backwards. Education entitles you to zero.

"That's why an advanced degree in basketweaving may qualify you for a satisfying job in many fields " Satisfying as long as you are willing to be amongst the highly credentialed, working for subsistence pay.

"Money isn't everything" Correct. Then why do they want their College loans forgiven?

edney Apr 27, 2022 01:29 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Incorrect.
I see credentialed people feeling they are worth more than the plumber, yet society will pay the 24 year old plumber $125HR and masters degree basketweavers $50K or $25HR, burdened with school debt of $71,300 . The plumber has used zero public resources and has debt for Truck, maybe a home One can deduce from there our society doesn't have enough plumbers, but it has too many basketweavers.
Yes that advanced degree may qualify you for a satisfying job in many fields, but unless that field is basketweaving, you are 6 years behind the curve.
They maybe "show discipline and an ability to think" but you've left out "overthinking".
I've worked around Univesity types before and many absolutely waste way too much time overthinking and not enough time producing
There are 2.7M college students in CA so about 650,000 graduate into the work force every year that at best are marginally better educated than a German High School student and at worst are behind where a high school graduate should be in reading writing and math

Voice of Reason Apr 27, 2022 08:34 AM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

GT, if "far right" policies means being against anyone but parents talking to 6 years olds about sexual identity, wanting our legislators to change immigration laws rather the throwing our borders wide open ignoring our current laws, preferring our state and federal governments have less control over our day to day lives with governmental decisions being made at the most local level possible, and in favor of free speech and expression even for things you don't agree with, then yeah I guess I am far right. Crazy how so many terms commonly used for decades have had their definitions changed the past few years....

a-1651035327 Apr 26, 2022 09:55 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

6:50 - As is your wont, you're projecting. Obviously, you see education as some sort of credential that entitles you to a certain salary. Education, especially higher education, has as its purpose exposing you to new ideas and honing your critical thinking skills. That's why an advanced degree in basketweaving may qualify you for a satisfying job in many fields - by achieving it, you show discipline and an ability to think. A plumbing credential won't get you there.

Money isn't everything, you know? At least not to people who think.

edney Apr 26, 2022 06:50 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Educated in what?
Many college degrees these days aren't worth the booties your "uneducated" plumber uses to keep your carpet clean.
If you want to pursue a trade, if you go to university, you will be 4 years behind people who went into apprenticeship at 18.
Your credential as a Social Justice Major may actually reduce your ability to compete. and excel in an apprenticeship.

If you don't want to pursue a trade and instead get a degree in Social Justice, go to work for a non profit (where all the "profit" goes to the CEO and VP's) you go to work there for $50K a year and can't afford the $125HR the plumber who didn't go to college charges

What you are describing is not education, it is a credential.

GeneralTree Apr 26, 2022 06:40 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

VOR, you regularly defend far right policies . Sorry bud, fact and in the record. And mind you I typically use the term far right which is substantially different than right or typical conservative so your assumption that I feel everything on the right is bigoted or fascist is incorrect. The far right are fascists. I agree that both parties have lost touch with many of our needs. I have many friends on the right who are still angry about the January 6th assault on the seat of government and peaceful election transition.

Voice of Reason Apr 26, 2022 06:01 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

Pushing back on one sides extremism doesn't equal defending the other sides extremism as the far reaches of both parties are out of touch with the average American. If you could set aside your bias and remove the disdain for everything right of left-of-center, you would see that. This approach you and others here take of rejecting anything associated with the right by calling it racist, bigoted, corrupt, fascist, etc. is simply inaccurate and a manifestation of your own extremism. At least I can recognize neither side has all the right solutions and bipartisanship will yield the best results for the most Americans.

thirdtimesacharm Apr 26, 2022 03:39 PM
Seeking New Term, County Schools Supe Decries "National Playbook" Fueling "Educational Divisiveness"

SBLOCAL1967 if you haven't, I would encourage you to watch the interview included within this article. The reference to said playbook starts with a question around 51:00. She does not slam parents; quite the opposite actually. She also does not directly name nor malign Lozano. I am certainly receptive to the idea of someone with a new perspective effecting change on our local educational institutions and their youth-serving partners. However, that someone needs to have a sense of the full county landscape. SBUSD has different opportunities and challenges than does LUSD. Los Prietos Boys Camp is not DP High School. Managing a classroom of children is not the same as collaborating with YouthWell, Behavioral Wellness, and building out career and technical education programs nor is it the same as budgetary oversight. You get the idea.

I am eager to watch Lozano's upcoming interview, because from what I've seen so far she has very little understanding of this position's responsibilities. Her inexperience will require a great deal of patience on behalf of parents and other residents that we simply do not have the time for. In my mind, it would make far more sense for Lozano to run for a local school board where she can more directly influence curriculum and disciplinary policy, which seem to be her primary focus areas.

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