SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

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Santa Barbara County District Attorney Joyce Dudley speaking at a PAGV event (courtesy photo)
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Source: Office of the Santa Barbara County District Attorney

[Last Monday], founders and co-chairs of (PAGV), Los Angeles City Attorney Mike Feuer and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr., have announced that they will step aside after seven years of service.

“Gun violence claims lives and destabalizes communities across the country,” said Feuer and Vance. “As we move on from our roles as co-chairs, we leave PAGV in very capable and experienced hands with Santa Barbara County District Attorney Joyce Dudley and The Bronx District Attorney Darcel Clark, as the incoming co-chairs. We look forward to this exciting new chapter in the life of PAGV.”

In accepting the role of co-chair Dudley stated, “Mike and Cy did a brilliant job creating, maintaining and growing PAGV. I am honored to have been chosen, along with my esteemed colleague DA Darcel Clark, to begin a new era for PAGV in the afterglow of all of their successes. Tragically, my county has been devastated by acts of gun violence. Although most gun owners in our communities are both safety-conscious and law-abiding, others, who often possess guns unlawfully, have negatively impacted the lives of many. While in this volunteer position, I hope to reduce gun violence both locally and in our neighboring counties and states.”

PAGV is an independent coalition of prosecutors representing over 60 million Americans in 24 states that is working to end gun violence. The group brings together prosecutors to discuss policies, legislation, and strategies to help prevent and confront gun violence in their jurisdictions. PAGV has held a dozen national forums on a range of topics, from gun crimes committed in the home, to safe storage, to illegal firearms trafficking, to mass shootings. PAGV has issued a nationwide blueprint on removing guns from domestic abusers, and a resource guide on preventing mass shootings and prosecuting mass shooters. The organization has also filed amicus briefs in several important cases, including those pertaining to ghost guns and gun licensing.

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a-1632850968 Sep 28, 2021 10:42 AM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

They can't. Gun control of illegal weapons is over, as far as I'm concerned. 3d printing and online availability of legally produced parts are both irreversible game-changers. Sucks. All we can do is make strict rules for those purchasing legal weapons, though even then, it all seems for naught..

buckwheat Sep 28, 2021 10:37 AM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

The U.S. has been uncivilized regarding gun violence compared to other nonthird world countries. I attribute this in part to our relatively short history compared to other developed countries. Maybe the day will come when become civilized enough to enact appropriate gun control.

Chip of SB Sep 28, 2021 12:23 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

Buckwheat, the US is uncivilized in many ways, and guns are just one example. More civilized countries have outlawed racist and hateful speech, yet here in the US we actually protect it. More civilized countries have banned fake news, but again here in the US we protect those who spread misinformation. We need to move forward, and if that means we need to reform the Supreme Court or form partnerships between the government and large corporations to shut down people who act in an uncivilized manner then so be it. The era of “free-dumb” is over. We need broad regulation going forward to make sure everyone adapts to a more civilized lifestyle. Our little experiment in individual liberty in this country ha been a disaster, it’s time to move on.

Channelfog Sep 29, 2021 10:26 AM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

Covid has shown us that the Ministry of Truth does in fact, reign supreme. George was only off by 4 decades. BTW, smart TV's have the microphones and camera capabilities of the screens Winston endured and yes, there is a hack for the mike and camera. Big Brother and any other hacker be in the house!

MarcelK Oct 01, 2021 01:28 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

1984 was a warning against totalitarianism, not a satire. And George Orwell was a socialist--he would have been appalled by the modern GOP and the rise of the right wing here and elsewhere in the world. // Chip writes bad satire that embodies slippery slope fallacies, moving from sensible things like Germany and other European nations banning hate speech due to their history with fascism, to absurdities like "partnerships between the government and large corporations to shut down people who act in an uncivilized manner", which actually is fascism: https://chipublib.bibliocommons.com/list/share/204842963/1292628717

Boarder760 Sep 28, 2021 12:41 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

How about enforce the laws and make criminals pay for their crimes. It's great to see all these ridiculously stupid comments regarding legal gun ownership which is a God given right enshrined in our constitution. Guns keep me safe from a government which is defunding police and trying "alternative policing".

sacjon Sep 28, 2021 03:35 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

BOARDER - "Guns keep me safe from a government" - how many times have you used/needed a gun to protect yourself from the "government?" Do you prefer pipe bombs like those placed around our capitol building last January or agricultural fertilizer and diesel fuel, like McVeigh?

MarcelK Oct 01, 2021 01:15 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

Guns are nowhere mentioned in the bible, the Declaration of Independence ("all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"), nor the Constitution (which doesn't mention gods or creators, due to the influence of Thomas Paine, whom Teddy Roosevelt called "that dirty little atheist", although he was actually a deist) and its amendments. The Second Amendment was written by James Madison, and it makes no mention of guns, only "arms", which are tools of war (thus armor, armory, coats of arms) ... Madison's original draft makes this clear even to modern readers: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, a well-armed and well-regulated militia being the best security of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.” Although the need for militias was largely obsoleted by the Constitution granting Congress the power "To raise and support Armies" and "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States", Madison included the 2nd Amendment in order to secure ratification from the southern states, which were concerned that the federal government would prevent them from maintaining their militias that served the purpose of keeping slaves under control and capturing them and returning them to their owners. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/opinion/second-amendment-slavery-james-madison.html http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/slave-patrols-and-the-second-amendment-how-fears-of-abolition-empowered-an-armed-militia/

The only place that a right to personal gun ownership appears is in the Supreme Court decision District of Columbia v. Heller, penned by Scalia and joined by Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito. It ignored history and precedent--it was pure "judicial activism".

MarcelK Oct 01, 2021 02:48 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

P.S. https://www.etymonline.com/word/arm "arm (n.2)

"weapon," c. 1300, armes (plural) "weapons of a warrior," from Old French armes (plural), "arms, weapons; war, warfare" (11c.), from Latin arma "weapons" (including armor), literally "tools, implements (of war)," from PIE *ar(ə)mo-, suffixed form of root *ar- "to fit together." The notion seems to be "that which is fitted together."

Meaning "branch of military service" is from 1798, hence "branch of any organization" (by 1952). Meaning "heraldic insignia" (in coat of arms, etc.) is early 14c., from Old French; originally they were borne on shields of fully armed knights or barons. To be up in arms figuratively is from 1704; ==> to bear arms "do military service" <== is by 1640s."

This is what Madison and his peers meant by "bear arms". Scalia and the rest of the so-called "originalists" completely ignored the intended meaning.

MarcelK Oct 01, 2021 03:02 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

@RHS: that statement was about taxation. Jesus was big into swords, though: “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword”, “if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one". (For those who wish to point out that the language is not literal but metaphorical or taken out of context ... so is the whole book.)

Babycakes Sep 28, 2021 06:31 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

To those who fear guns and fear those who misuse them: Don't buy a firearm. Don't have a firearm in your house. Don't let others have a firearm in your house. Done! All good...problem solved in your household. What someone else decides to do is not your biz, so bug out and MYOB because it's out of your control. All I can say is that if you spend time in my home, we definitely will keep you safe....even if you disagree with us about "you know what." If you don't feel safe at my place, go hang out with the anti-gun pols and celebs because they are all surrounded by multiple armed guards. Other than that, Santa Barbara is quite nice out this evening...very nice (about a dozen surfos at Leadbetter, and only two or three at Campus Point...small waves...great venues).

Alexblue Oct 01, 2021 02:30 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

Oh my Gosh, Babycakes, the surf has been so good lately. Too bad that after a nice relaxing surf in California you are more likely to be murdered by a person with a gun than pretty much anywhere else in the first world.

Beyond that, Babycakes, still waiting on you to tell me exactly who "my people" are. You're such a tease.

MarcelK Oct 01, 2021 01:37 PM
SB County and Bronx DA's to Lead National Gun Violence Prevention Organization

This press release never even mentions what PAGV is: https://prosecutorsagv.org/ "Prosecutors Against Gun Violence (“PAGV”) is a non-partisan group of leading prosecutors focusing on gun violence prevention strategies ranging from policy advocacy to improved enforcement of existing laws. In so doing, PAGV will seek as much common ground as possible among the many voices on this pressing national issue.

Working together, prosecutors across the United States can play a leading role in promoting and implementing measures to combat the gun violence that threatens our public health and safety. Prosecutors bring unique insights and credibility to gun violence prevention efforts that cannot easily be dismissed, given our central responsibilities in the justice system." // Which makes responses like "How about enforce the laws and make criminals pay for their crimes." seem rather absurd.

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