SB Act Homeless Services Video

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SB ACT uses a research and evidence-based approach to assist marginalized populations in Santa Barbara. The collaborative effort brings together service providers from different agencies to streamline efforts to house individuals and provide supportive services.

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bosco Sep 01, 2021 01:17 PM
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While this video shows some insight in what is going on with trying to tackle the problem, I think it also highlights some of the issues. With so many organizations involved I can't help but think that there is an extreme amount of inefficiency and poor direction in the system. Someone in video mentions that there can be 8-10 different agencies working with a homeless individual. How can you have 8 - 10 agencies working with someone that is still living on the street? That is not success, that is a failure and waste of resources. How many of these agencies are actually getting people off the street rather than just supporting and sustaining people living on the street? This is the Homeless Inc. that is so often mentioned here on edhat.

While ACT may be trying to heard cats with all the Homeless Inc. organizations, the problem keeps getting worse. They claim the public isn't aware of all the work that's being done. Guess why? because we don't see the problem getting better. We see more homeless camps, more mentally ill people wandering the streets, more trash and human waste. COVID or not, we need to get mentally ill homeless people off the street and into treatment. So far ACT seems to be more of a paper pushing organization than an organization actually getting the job done. I get that it's complicated and I don't have an answer, but I'm not sold. Enough with the plans, proposals, powerpoint presentations, feel good free lunches and complaining about how "it's complicated". Give us examples of how many people were permanently homed? How many camps cleaned up? How many people taken off the street? How many transients moved out of the area? Are we trending up or down? Show us actual results.

Byzantium Sep 01, 2021 01:59 PM
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The public also sees the employment of more Homeless Inc staffers, now invested in their own jobs which would end if they every solved this underlying problem. The 10 Pear Plan to End Homelessness, initiated well over a decade ago under Mayor Helene Schneider's guidance, also identified this vast diffusion of staffing efforts and promised to consolidate them under a single command and control structure and one "homeless czar". Never happened, 10 years long past and even more of a time and money completely unaccountable, except for the continuing growth of vagrant camps and Homeless Inc staff; while noticing little growth in outlying areas not blessed with the top-heavy staff Homeless Inc we keep supporting for reasons unknown.

AwareHuman Sep 01, 2021 09:02 PM
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Agree with Bosco & Byzantium. All of the programs have minimal, if any, success....except for the directors with pretty hefty paychecks, and the enablers/ social workers. Many nonprofits support staff but not their target populations.... including the Safe Parking Program. It's almost criminal

letmego Sep 02, 2021 10:00 AM
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I don't think you can say that they don't have any success. The thing that most people probably don't realize is that it takes a lot of WORK to be successful. Many homeless are resistant to getting help and trusting people, and it takes a LOT of contact before it works out. Like making little kids try new foods.

It was just on Edhat a week ago or so, the link to a documentary about programs that work. https://vimeo.com/579979038/17df4d22a9

But we all need to be clear. These programs are costly. Many of the homeless will get off the streets. They will cost a lot less money because we won't be paying for police intervention or ER bills. It still won't be free. These programs do require staffing and intervention. Call it "Homeless, Inc" or whatever, but in the end, proper supportive programs WORK and they are cheaper than the alternative.

bosco Sep 02, 2021 11:18 AM
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I think the point is it doesn't feel like there is any success. I live downtown and the homeless situation is arguably much worse now that it was years ago (regardless of COVID) from my personal experience. The increase presence of camps and fires supports that. A lot of time, money, and energy went into a PR video that failed to actually communicate any results. I'm sure these programs get some wins here and there. But obviously it's not enough or (as I would argue) there is too much bureaucracy and misdirected resources. From what I see is a lot of the organizations feed off of people's good intentions and take the easy route, that is providing homeless with resources. Giving homeless people resources (food, clothing, medical care, phones, etc.) is easy. It makes people feel good. But giving out resources does not get people off the street. It just continues supporting the problem. How many of the "homeless inc." organizations are just supporting a homeless lifestyle vs. actually getting people off the street? That is what we all want to know. We need organizations and people that are willing to do the hard work and get their hands dirty. This means ACT and other organizations also need a "tough love" approach. Force people into long term care, move transients out of town, shut down camps, and lobby for laws making possible. I'm not sure if that's in their plan, but it sure wasn't highlighted in their PR video.

a-1630593215 Sep 02, 2021 07:33 AM
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I get it - these well-intentioned organizations are wasting resources and funds. But, there must be a solution to homelessness in a society that spends so much effort trying to help. My question to the edhat community is, what do you think that solution is? Certainly there are many intellegent locals on this site who can offer real and practical suggestions. Hint: Blaming the local government or recalling local officials isn't one of them - that is a machine that just keeps rolling along.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 02, 2021 09:32 AM
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One easy solution is to force every church in town to house and feed the bums. If the churches refuse, then tax them as they are clearly not acting in the interest of their God, or any organized religion for that matter, but are instead political clubs masquerading as churches to avoid taxes. Unless these churches can cite their scripture where they are instructed "To not feed or house the poor or the sick". If they can point to those lines, then by all means, they're free to go about their ways ... We can also pass a state law that makes it illegal for Churches to refuse services to people and also encourages citizens to turn in their local church goer for violating their faith's covenants and the law. God's law that is. After all, according to the Christians in TX, all lives are sacred and its their duty to uphold God's will regardless of the reality of the situation.

Ahchooo Sep 02, 2021 10:05 AM
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Nice idea, but the government doesn’t get to tell the church people what to believe, nor how to act on their beliefs. I am all for taxing churches, but this ploy won’t get us there.

bosco Sep 02, 2021 11:29 AM
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Obviously, no one here has an easy answer. But, I'd start with changing laws around mental the mentally ill. People with serious mental illness should not be allowed to live on the street... period. There should be forced care and institutionalization. That exists in many countries and used to in the US. Yes, institutions had their problems, but obviously letting people live on the street is not the answer.

Byzantium Sep 02, 2021 11:31 AM
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The Bible says very clearly: you don't work you don't eat. Which remains an excellent Sunday school lesson to repeat. Local churches did try to serve this population and quickly burned out. They also created unsustainable pressures on their surrounding neighborhoods. Good story to investigate -what did we learn from local churches who in good faith did try to take in transients. What can we also learn about the success of the Salvation Army and Rescue Mission operations. Why did we need to create and fund the highly unsuccessful Homeless Inc web when we had good programs already in operation that had a proven track record and efficient handling of resources?

Chevy67 Sep 02, 2021 11:52 AM
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You lost me at "The Bible." Separation of church and state, remember? A lot of states seem to forget this, look at Texas.

a-1630638680 Sep 02, 2021 08:11 PM
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The problem with that is that our mental institutions are jails. Very little care is provided and the conditions worsen people in distress.

a-1630638834 Sep 02, 2021 08:13 PM
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Byz, churches also offer parking to the Safe Parking Program.
There ARE working people living in their cars. I haven't heard of any " unsustainable pressures on their surrounding neighborhoods."
In part because they work with the city and police department.

a-1630640283 Sep 02, 2021 08:38 PM
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Byz @ 11:31, I'm culturally Jewish and an atheist, but didn't Jesus say what you do to the least of us you do to me?

Or “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

Didn't he care for the poor and sick?

a-1630640432 Sep 02, 2021 08:40 PM
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Local churches also still run warming centers in winter time. And I assume do work we don't hear of.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 02, 2021 08:34 AM
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If there was nowhere for these people to camp, they'd move along... If there were not 100's of people who make their living from Federal, State, County and NGO grants, who use the majority of funds to pay their salaries and commercial rent, then most of the bums would be elsewhere. In fact, there are several cities in the desert where one can live for free, without hassle. But you cant panhandle from other bums and you cant get a free lunch or a 40oz every single day. So instead, they come here. Where they get everything they need, for free. Stop pandering. Start punishing. Fence off every campsite. Start fining private property owners who allow camping or blight on their property and shut down the dozens of agencies and orgs that exist under the false pretense that they're "here to help".... Forget the orgs, just give the cash directly to the bums. Easier and less of a lie. In fact it would be cheaper to buy each one of these folks an old RV, give them a tank of gas a few weeks worth of food, a map and then point them east. Problem solved at a fraction of the price.

a-1630599843 Sep 02, 2021 09:24 AM
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Observer, if we gave them each an RV and sent them away, we’d have an endless stream of people coming to town to get their free RVs. Even your tongue-in-cheek solution is full of holes. But I do like your suggestion to fence off campsites. It would be a boon to the fence companies, but might actually help in some areas. Will need to allow space for the possums and skunks to squeeze under the fences.

Byzantium Sep 02, 2021 11:36 AM
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For the price of a few Homeless Inc staffers, you can buy most of the empty land and houses in all of Trona, California. Time to start this funding reallocation and location diversion program is right now. Liquor store and state health facilities in town.

sacjon Sep 02, 2021 03:02 PM
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BYZ - How much does Homeless Inc pay its staffers? Did you find that on Glassdoor or something?

Olde Mann Sep 03, 2021 11:23 AM
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Trona could work if you have to stay in the State. Although people in Trona might not like it. It's the right idea though. If we can recall Newsome, it could possibly happen.

Notebook_1 Sep 02, 2021 02:56 PM
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Not all homeless people have the same issues, therefore must receive different solutions. I will speak now only of mentally ill. They need to go to state hospitals where they can receive long term care, treatment & medication. To give them short term & release them back onto the street does no one any good. California has shuttered state hospitals that once existed & has no plans to reopen them, thus contributing greatly to our huge homeless problem. Speak out & vote to OPEN HOSPITALS. They would be professional, accredited, accountable, used & necessary.

a-1630641060 Sep 02, 2021 08:51 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree, but it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars and require many, many professionals.

This is why jails function as mental asylums:

The entire state of CA has 6 hospitals.
https://www.dsh.ca.gov/Hospitals/index.html

Current online info about Los Angeles State Hospital:
"The hospital operates approximately 826 beds."

The patient population breakdown for DSH-Metropolitan as of 11/7/2016 is listed below.
https://www.dsh.ca.gov/Metropolitan/index.html#patient

Notebook_1 Sep 03, 2021 02:13 PM
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Fewer hospitals than you think for the general public. Some are for men only. Some are filled with IST patients/incompetent to stand trial and/or convicted criminals. California counties can't open psychiatric (locked) facilities with more than 16 beds because they won't be reimbursed by State & Fed for Medi-Cal patients for more than 16. That is why SB County has one locked short term/long term facility with 16 beds that is supposed to serve our County population of over 400,000 people. That is why ill people are in jail and on the street. We need hospitals and treatment centers to treat them.

Notebook_1 Sep 03, 2021 02:16 PM
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Fewer hospitals than you think for the general public. Some are for men only. Some are filled with IST patients/incompetent to stand trial and/or convicted criminals. California counties can't open psychiatric (locked) facilities with more than 16 beds because they won't be reimbursed by State & Fed for Medi-Cal patients for more than 16. That is why SB County has one locked short term/long term facility with 16 beds that is supposed to serve our County population of over 400,000 people. That is why ill people are in jail and on the street. We need hospitals and treatment centers to treat them.

bumblebee Sep 02, 2021 04:02 PM
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Problem is that there is a fine line between nurturing and enabling.

And it wouldn't hurt if the governor would stop early releasing prisoners. At the very least, he should wait until the support services were in place for the newly released prisoners so that they just don't end up in homeless camps.

Notebook_1 Sep 02, 2021 07:34 PM
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I was very angry at Cox yesterday 9/1/21. Supposedly after much searching on Cox & everywhere else and finding no info, in the evening talked with a person at Cox who said TV had gone out in my zip & others around 8am & should be back up around 1:30am. Could find no explanation, info or outage maps all day, other than Cox saying on the screen that it was their problem. Then this a.m. nothing on the news about it. So it seems it was several zip codes from Goleta to Montecito. I want more info next time from Cox or the News.

a-1630639939 Sep 02, 2021 08:32 PM
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I read a lot today about SB County homeless policy re: pallet housing. I think I'm going to donate. Here's what was helpful to me.

I got into details from the links in this article:
https://www.noozhawk.com/article/santa_maria_encampment_cleared_ahead_of_adoption_of_new_resolution

I would donate here: https://dignitymoves.org/santa-barbara/

And I read up on YPO: https://www.ypo.org/
YPO on Charity Navigator: https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/650957170

Yes, I question not knowing more about the ideology, but I like the project a lot.

Olde Mann Sep 03, 2021 11:20 AM
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I would donate to Elect Larry Elder. That's probably the best bet for doing something about the homeless.

Byzantium Sep 02, 2021 09:22 PM
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Invariably every discussion of vagrants always triggers mentions of the ACLU court-mandated closure of former state mental health institutions. In response to those closures 30 years ago, nearly 20 years ago voters also also passed Prop 63 Mental Health Services Act (MHSA) which has raised over $15 billion dollars to compensate for the closure of the former state care facilities. What happened tol that money? Why has this mental health population only grown on our streets since the passage of this Mental Health Services Act. How much MHSA funds the Homeless Inc revolving door? Will Senator Monique Limon or Assemblyman Michael Bennett be held accountable for those ongoing funds and lack of expected results? Why has the use of this money only grown the mental health street population. What are we now doing wrong with those funds and how can we start doing something right? One thing our elected representatives keep getting wrong is refusing to reform the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act severely limiting the ability to remove these people from the streets for their own safety and for the safety of every one else. .........From. the MHSA website: "Thirty years ago, the State of California cut back on its services in state hospitals for people with severe mental illnesses, without providing adequate funding for mental health services in the community. Many people became homeless.

To address this issue, Proposition 63 was approved by voters in 2004. Proposition 63, also called the Mental Health Services Act, was enacted into law on January 1, 2005. It places a 1% tax on personal income above $1 million; since that time, it has generated approximately $15 billion.

Proposition 63 emphasizes transformation of the mental health system while improving the quality of life for Californians living with a mental illness."......

Byzantium Sep 03, 2021 10:09 AM
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For emphasis, MHSA own language....... (The tax the rich $15 billion dollars MHSA raised) s: ......."Proposition 63 emphasizes transformation of the mental health system while improving the quality of life for Californians living with a mental illness."...... Translation: "Transformation of the mental health system" -means funding Homeless Inc and their continued failures. "Improve the quality of life for Californians" Translation - enable, coddle and keep on the streets those with mental conditions while totally destroying the quality of life for everyone else as those with mental impairments destroy down town retail centers, public parks, libraries and all public spaces to the peril of everyone else living near by. And Homeless Inc grows fat on the guaranteed Prop 63 income stream. Prop 63 has become a total money sucking fraud. Accountability for Prop 63 now, Limon and Bennett!

Olde Mann Sep 03, 2021 11:15 AM
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You can tell it's a boondoggle by the double-speak used to say what they do.
Which is nothing.

Byzantium Sep 03, 2021 11:41 AM
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Trona for sale - $54,900: ........"

Move in or invest and rent out this cozy home. *** 3 Bedrooms and 1 Bath home with nice updates. Laminate flooring throughout. Spacious living room and kitchen. Lots of cabinet space. The 3rd bedroom can be used as an extension of the master bedroom or as a nursery. The water heater, natural gas wall heaters, and evaporative cooler were replaced recently. The clean and well-kept front yard has easy-to-maintain water-saving landscaping and is fully fenced. The side yard can accommodate an RV or any larger vehicle. Ther is a detached garage with access from the front or through the backyard. The exterior and the garage needs some TLC but the home is ready to move in. This property also has great rental potential for investors. Trona is located near Ridgecrest, a 30-minute drive from the Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake, Super Walmart, hospital, dining, and other shopping options.

Olde Mann Sep 03, 2021 12:40 PM
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Locations available to build affordable housing, the solution exists:

https://cadgs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=392e5e687e9041bb8f20e3acc5b211c7

Gavin Newsome needs to be recalled.

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