Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

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Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State
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Source: City of Santa Barbara

The queuing from Chick fil-A’s drive-through onto State Street, (3707 State Street), continues to create serious traffic congestion as well as hazardous conditions for pedestrians. City Staff has reached out to Chick-fil-A emphasizing the significant safety concerns posed by the excessive queuing and is working with representatives on a solution to restore circulation, and most importantly, to preserve public safety.

Chick-fil-A representatives are actively pursuing both short and long-term options, including outside order taking and car service, to mitigate the traffic back-ups.

You can help too! The City is asking for your help to prevent traffic collisions and congestion.  Please do not stop on State Street to queue into Chick-fil-A. In addition, please avoid blocking the sidewalk and bike lane. Blocking sidewalks and bike lanes poses safety concerns for bikers, pedestrians, and especially people with disabilities.

Queuing in the street is not only dangerous and a blockage to normal State Street travel, but it is also illegal. Violators may be subject to citation.

 
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ZeroHawk Nov 19, 2021 03:23 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

have to agree with you there...really seems stupid. just put a traffic cop out front and give him extra pens.
sorry, but IDC why you're in line at some crappy fast food place and you think you have a right to impede traffic. you don't. yall need to keep your artery clogging habits to yourself and not impede traffic on the road.
My traffic cop friend says that it's really pathetic, the excuses and attitude given by those people when they do get cited. its like they think they are A-OK to be in the way of the rest of hte town that's trying to drive past.

ZeroHawk Nov 19, 2021 03:26 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

yeah? 10 at once? Funny. I call BS on that. I happen to know many of them and they aren't going to pull 10 cars off of the road and park at that place.
just for a snack. especially in a black and white and bikes too. LOL..
me thinks someone is telling a very tall tale....and in fact. i paused this and got my buddy on messenger. he's a motorcycle cop in town. he immediately laughed and said flat out no. Not only is that excessive, "it's a lie". there ya go Kid.

fitz Nov 19, 2021 10:44 AM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

This was just poor planning. All this was predicted during the permitting process. The City needs to shut down the drive thru until there is a solution. i really don't see a solution except to shut down drive thru permanently.

jak Nov 20, 2021 05:56 AM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

380, that’s the American way. But it will be unlikely to ever happen on State Street. Do note that a number of the alternative designs for that Chick fil A would have allowed for much better traffic flow. But the planning committee didn’t want better traffic flow because they thought bad traffic flow would limit how many people would want to use the drive through feature of a restaurant that typically has a huge fan base for drive through. So now we are stuck with the results of perverse planning. By the way, CFA has locations in many areas far busier than upper state that have little or no impact on the traffic on the roads around them so they have a track record of being able to pull it off.

a-1637426929 Nov 20, 2021 08:48 AM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

Jak, SInce Chick-Fil-A took over a previous fast-food outlet that already had a drive-through don't you think that they and the City thought that the traffic patterns would continue the same? Do you think that perhaps the popularity of CFA wasn't anticipated?

jak Nov 20, 2021 03:27 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

You hit the bullseye. The city’s goal at the time of early planning was no increase in drive through traffic. CFA always seemed to know better but was stuck with an oddball planning and permitting process that only allowed them to have a drive through if they built in place of an existing drive through. Anyone remember the previous drive through? I want to say Arbys but I’m probably not remembering correctly.

Babycakes Nov 19, 2021 11:56 AM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

Let's face it, the traffic issue is pretty minor considering the big picture. I've been stuck in the line ONE time, learned my lesson NOT to get in the left lane in that stretch of road. I don't have a melt down over something so minor. In my own opinion, people have a political bone to pick because six years ago or so Chick-fil-A donated money to support the cause to preserve traditional marriage. Get over it people. Many/many/most businesses would LOVE to have cars lines up each day. FYI: I am a huge fan of their chicken, homemade lemonade, waffle fries, and mac-n-cheese. Some people crave the booze, crave the weed, crave this and that, and a lot of people crave this fast-food chain. That's it. Small potatoes....get o-v-e-r it for goodness sakes, or at a mimimum, avoid the area. Okay?

Ahchooo Nov 19, 2021 12:58 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

If you know the situation in advance, you can plan to be in the left lane. If you don’t know, you are likely to get stuck. Traffic flow should not be reliant on everyone being already familiar with every block they ever drive on. The business has space on the other side of their building. They should reconfigure their operations to prevent the backup. It should be up to them to fix the problem.

bicyclist Nov 20, 2021 01:10 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

As one of the "closest to the curb" idiots (bicyclist) coming into that area is a nightmare. So as you (self) approach that spot & the AUTOMOBILES stopped on/in the BikeLane or even lined up on the street puts you (self) in a NO win situation. At any point the vehicle in the right lane decides to just move way more to the right (happens alot!) are you supposed to pass on the left? Or passenger decides NOW would be a great time to exit as you (self) arrive... [only some of the personal experiences, there's more but]

a-1637483180 Nov 21, 2021 12:26 AM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

I don't have that figure. I said these street/sidewalk users were impeded, not injured. I make eye contact with drivers before I walk past and between cars, have had to once or twice. One must be very alert, when crossing a crosswalk when left-turn drivers are around, too.

Shasta Guy Nov 19, 2021 02:02 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

Always be in the left lane when approaching Chick-Fil-A.

Always be in the right lane when going north on Mission when getting off 101.

Always be in the right lane when approaching BevMo when going east on State St.

I don’t like getting stuck behind predictable traffic, so that’s what I always do. It would be great if other EdHatters could share their traffic avoidance tips.

a-1637533659 Nov 21, 2021 02:27 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

Never exit 154 South at Foothill in the morning and afternoon hours when la Colina Jr High is out. You will never be able to turn left. You will have to turn right and flip a quick u turn which really makes everyone in line mad. Good thing they will never catch up to you..

SBLetsGetAlong Nov 19, 2021 02:47 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

It’s a successful business, good for them.
It’s drive thru in an age of Covid concerns. Might explain the lines.
The lines go quickly, just more & more customers go there.
If the City would like to pay to relocate a successful business they may be open to that
The landlord might not be happy about it.

Just like traffic on the 101 through rush hour traffic & construction. Stay away from the area during congested times.

SBLinda Nov 19, 2021 04:07 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

This morning around 8:30 AM, cars exiting 101 S. Bound at the 154/South Street exit repeatedly blocked the box at that intersection, so an MTA bus (and everyone behind it) had to wait through 4 green lights to cross the intersection and get in the left turn lanes for the 154. How can so many people think it is okay to block the box in an intersection?

a-1637646041 Nov 22, 2021 09:40 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

another "hit & run" poster, so to speak. I'm still trying to figure this out myself. All I can picture is people getting off the 101 sbound. I doubt they're blocking Goleta-bound Hollister between 154 area & the train trestle/Modoc!

Or does she mean that all the traffic coming off 154 /State St. exit southbound pile into the left turn lane headed toward the 154 x Foothill onramp? which is the intersection that starts on Hollister and passes over the freeway at 154 x Calle Real?
I hate to gloat, but I am so glad I'm partially retired and don't have to deal with commuting!

But I really would like to know what posters mean when they discuss local issues.

a-1637646205 Nov 22, 2021 09:43 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

Nov. 19, 4:35, I assume "block the box" means to block an intersection, so as to impede any movement when a light changes.
As when someone blocks the portion of pavement near an intersection that says "DO NOT BLOCK."

a-1637646872 Nov 22, 2021 09:54 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

I take it back -- I can imagine people blocking two lanes of east/Goleta bound traffic on Hollister, before Modoc/train trestle, as terrible as that is.
This kind of driving may get you or others killed. It just ain't worth your life. Put on some good music, leave 5-10 minutes earlier, or picture getting home to your family without an accident.
And drive defensively. Never aggressively. It's not worth an expensive accident and/or car repair and insurance costs, let alone hospitalization, disability or death.

Chill Out, Peace Out, listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdlTA5n2h8

a-1637649839 Nov 22, 2021 10:43 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

The link is to Vince Guaraldi Trio Christmas, the soundtrack to a Charlie Brown Christmas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdlTA5n2h8

Or pick your favorite music so you have something to do, to think of, to mellow your mood, to make you think of your family, to value life, while you drive!

Nicole55 Nov 19, 2021 04:55 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

I also saw the same kind of back up of traffic at the drive thru Starbucks on Turnpike (cars were basically stopped up to the intersection/corner). Maybe if they can figure out how to fix one they can apply the solution to the other!

Babycakes Nov 19, 2021 05:25 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

For those of you who love and crave CFA, I suggest you purchase double or triple your normal order, and simply put it in the fridge or freezer. This eliminates the need to make multiple weekly trips, reduce the traffic congestion, and the amount of time you have to wait to consume your food. Air fryers and mini convection oven heat up CFA quite nicely!!!

SBZZ Nov 19, 2021 07:29 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

The City is as much at fault here as CFA - they approved it. "City Staff has reached out to Chick-fil-A..." - what, as they handed them chicken sandwiches? Never seen the PD writing tickets for all the times I drove by those lines of cars.

Zenyatta19 Nov 21, 2021 02:33 PM
Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

Why is everyone blaming CFA and the city? Isn’t it the responsibility of the driver to follow the rules of the road? It’s ridiculous. I’ve never been to CFA and don’t plan on it but I would never block the road if I did. I won’t even turn left out of a parking lot if it’s going to hold a bunch of people up. I’ll turn right and go around. People are so entitled. Same with those that block the driveway at Turnpike Shell to use the car wash.

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