Santa Barbara Works to Reduce Chick-fil-a Traffic on Upper State

have to agree with you there...really seems stupid. just put a traffic cop out front and give him extra pens.
sorry, but IDC why you're in line at some crappy fast food place and you think you have a right to impede traffic. you don't. yall need to keep your artery clogging habits to yourself and not impede traffic on the road.
My traffic cop friend says that it's really pathetic, the excuses and attitude given by those people when they do get cited. its like they think they are A-OK to be in the way of the rest of hte town that's trying to drive past.

It wouldn’t matter if they were picking up gourmet food from a three-star restaurant. The issue is not the food quality, only the road blocking.

yeah? 10 at once? Funny. I call BS on that. I happen to know many of them and they aren't going to pull 10 cars off of the road and park at that place.
just for a snack. especially in a black and white and bikes too. LOL..
me thinks someone is telling a very tall tale....and in fact. i paused this and got my buddy on messenger. he's a motorcycle cop in town. he immediately laughed and said flat out no. Not only is that excessive, "it's a lie". there ya go Kid.

The solution is to stop crying about it, develop a fast food place that is preferable to Chick fil-A. Problem solved!!!

380, that’s the American way. But it will be unlikely to ever happen on State Street. Do note that a number of the alternative designs for that Chick fil A would have allowed for much better traffic flow. But the planning committee didn’t want better traffic flow because they thought bad traffic flow would limit how many people would want to use the drive through feature of a restaurant that typically has a huge fan base for drive through. So now we are stuck with the results of perverse planning. By the way, CFA has locations in many areas far busier than upper state that have little or no impact on the traffic on the roads around them so they have a track record of being able to pull it off.

Jak, SInce Chick-Fil-A took over a previous fast-food outlet that already had a drive-through don't you think that they and the City thought that the traffic patterns would continue the same? Do you think that perhaps the popularity of CFA wasn't anticipated?

You hit the bullseye. The city’s goal at the time of early planning was no increase in drive through traffic. CFA always seemed to know better but was stuck with an oddball planning and permitting process that only allowed them to have a drive through if they built in place of an existing drive through. Anyone remember the previous drive through? I want to say Arbys but I’m probably not remembering correctly.

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OMG GT and I agree on something and back a similar movement?
i think i threw up a little just now....but hey....why not.

Good on you Hawk!

Boo hoo hooo. Get the rest of your libs friends to boycott like they say they will so the rest of us can get our food faster.

Thank you, General Tree! Neither do we. We don't support hate.

Jimbo11, there aren’t any liberals left in Santa Barbara. They all moved to Canada when Trump got elected. Or perhaps they came back when Biden was elected?

Then that would just leave the racist rednecks to occupy the city?

If you know the situation in advance, you can plan to be in the left lane. If you don’t know, you are likely to get stuck. Traffic flow should not be reliant on everyone being already familiar with every block they ever drive on. The business has space on the other side of their building. They should reconfigure their operations to prevent the backup. It should be up to them to fix the problem.

Also, bicyclists and pedestrians are impeded and put in danger.

So… How many bicyclists and pedestrians get injured here over the course of a typical year as opposed to, Trader Joe’s?

As one of the "closest to the curb" idiots (bicyclist) coming into that area is a nightmare. So as you (self) approach that spot & the AUTOMOBILES stopped on/in the BikeLane or even lined up on the street puts you (self) in a NO win situation. At any point the vehicle in the right lane decides to just move way more to the right (happens alot!) are you supposed to pass on the left? Or passenger decides NOW would be a great time to exit as you (self) arrive... [only some of the personal experiences, there's more but]

I don't have that figure. I said these street/sidewalk users were impeded, not injured. I make eye contact with drivers before I walk past and between cars, have had to once or twice. One must be very alert, when crossing a crosswalk when left-turn drivers are around, too.

Cakes, the traffic issue affect more people than just you, and some in cars, on bikes, and on foot, cannot avoid it. Just wanted to point that out.

How can you turn to the right for Chick-filet when you're in the left lane of State Street (unless you mean the left lane as you're heading west?)

I never go to Chick-Fil-A. I always stick to the left lane so I don't get stuck behind the people going there. I hear it's tasty food, but I'm not a fast food person.

Shasta, I was having such a laugh reading your comment as I also militantly follow these exact location-specific rules. Right on.

Never exit 154 South at Foothill in the morning and afternoon hours when la Colina Jr High is out. You will never be able to turn left. You will have to turn right and flip a quick u turn which really makes everyone in line mad. Good thing they will never catch up to you..

Agreed. Their food isn't good, the other fast food options have just gotten much worse.

Agreed. Unhealthy mediocre fast food with a side of homophobia and hate. NO ThANK YOU.

What does “blocked the box” mean?

another "hit & run" poster, so to speak. I'm still trying to figure this out myself. All I can picture is people getting off the 101 sbound. I doubt they're blocking Goleta-bound Hollister between 154 area & the train trestle/Modoc!

Or does she mean that all the traffic coming off 154 /State St. exit southbound pile into the left turn lane headed toward the 154 x Foothill onramp? which is the intersection that starts on Hollister and passes over the freeway at 154 x Calle Real?
I hate to gloat, but I am so glad I'm partially retired and don't have to deal with commuting!

But I really would like to know what posters mean when they discuss local issues.

Nov. 19, 4:35, I assume "block the box" means to block an intersection, so as to impede any movement when a light changes.
As when someone blocks the portion of pavement near an intersection that says "DO NOT BLOCK."

I take it back -- I can imagine people blocking two lanes of east/Goleta bound traffic on Hollister, before Modoc/train trestle, as terrible as that is.
This kind of driving may get you or others killed. It just ain't worth your life. Put on some good music, leave 5-10 minutes earlier, or picture getting home to your family without an accident.
And drive defensively. Never aggressively. It's not worth an expensive accident and/or car repair and insurance costs, let alone hospitalization, disability or death.

Chill Out, Peace Out, listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdlTA5n2h8

The link is to Vince Guaraldi Trio Christmas, the soundtrack to a Charlie Brown Christmas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdlTA5n2h8

Or pick your favorite music so you have something to do, to think of, to mellow your mood, to make you think of your family, to value life, while you drive!

But Starbucks is a totally different situation. We like there politics.

Their union-busting politics or their meaningless political opinions?

Oh, definitely their meaningless political opinions. Let’s not dirty our thoughts by considering actual issues.

Why is everyone blaming CFA and the city? Isn’t it the responsibility of the driver to follow the rules of the road? It’s ridiculous. I’ve never been to CFA and don’t plan on it but I would never block the road if I did. I won’t even turn left out of a parking lot if it’s going to hold a bunch of people up. I’ll turn right and go around. People are so entitled. Same with those that block the driveway at Turnpike Shell to use the car wash.