Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

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The Santa Barbara County Public Health Department (PHD) stated 49% of residents age 16 and over have received at least their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Approximately 23% of residents are fully vaccinated, "wonderful statistics to celebrate," said PHD Director Dr. Van Do-Reynoso in a recorded video.

She went on to state that vaccination is the best tool to stop the spread of the virus in the community as herd immunity will require about 80-90% of the population to be vaccinated. 

Santa Barbara County will be able to move into the orange tier on Tuesday if the COVID-19 case rate per 100,000 population remains under 6. As of Friday, the county case rate is 5.2.

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RHS Apr 16, 2021 06:32 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

SB County is not going to get to 80-90% when huge populations in the North County are so resistant. We know that vaccines went begging in Santa Maria and Lompoc. What can be done to educate these folks into participating in a simple act to avert this crisis?

Minibeast Apr 16, 2021 07:01 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Start handing out vouchers for free stuff. I bet people would swarm to get the jab if 1/2 to 1-lb of See's Candies was on the menu. (If it takes bribery, so be it.)

ParvoPup Apr 16, 2021 07:36 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Excuse me cowboy, but where do you get your opinion about Lompoc? We have had a number of successful vaccination clinics with huge numbers of patients. Drop by the Hospital on any given day and look at the line of people waiting for their shot.

Now, if your statement is a thinly veiled opinion as to the take rate among non-English speakers, then you may have a point of discussion.

Ahchooo Apr 16, 2021 07:47 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Parvo, I don’t know the comparative rates of vaccine uptake, but I find it curious that south county appointments filled up instantly, prompting south county residents to make appointments in Santa Maria and Lompoc. Are the North County residents less connected and therefore less able to secure appointments? Are they just slower about making appointments? Are they less interested in getting the vaccines? Or were more appointments made available up there, per capita?

Chip of SB Apr 17, 2021 09:36 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

RHS, getting to 80-90% is going to be a real challenge and may not be possible since many people will choose not to get the vaccine. Maintaining that level of vaccination will be even harder. Most people still believe this is going to be over once everyone is “fully vaccinated.” That is not the case. Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have already made clear that additional booster shots are going to be needed and that Covid shots are likely to become an annual like flu shots. They are already developing new vaccines to address some of the emerging Covid variants. People will be extremely frustrated once they realize this is where we are headed. Fewer and fewer people will continue getting additional Covid shots in the years ahead, and the “immunity” provided by this first round of vaccines will diminish over time.

letmego Apr 17, 2021 03:22 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

I think we need to go to them...mobile vaccination buses. Go to their churches, neighborhood parks, and go to the elementary and high schools during drop-off and pickup, and do drop-in. No appointments necessary.

I did not find it easy at all to sign up for my vaccine (a friend sent me a direct link, instead of going through the 5 layers of signups, that never had any openings), and my spouse went to Lompoc. I was never successful finding any openings at the local pharmacies, despite every website saying they had doses available...but again, it's several steps to go through, only to find no available slots.

dukemunson Apr 17, 2021 08:46 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Just go to the myturn website... there are tons of appointments available all day everyday next week from Tuesday to Saturday at Goleta cottage... it’s really REALLY EASY! Book and get it everyone!

https://myturn.ca.gov/location-select

Channelfog Apr 18, 2021 04:43 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

I predict a 50-60% max vaccination rate. Mutations are way too fast and unpredictable to keep up with and many people understand this and wish not to be lab rats. Please note that places like Chile with high vaccination rates are not seeing a reduction in cases. Vaccine efficacy claims are suspect and it is too soon to know the risks of same. Big pharma has a horrible track record of lies and injuries for profit, but trust them right?

a-1618758758 Apr 18, 2021 08:12 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

SARS-CoV-2 has a relatively low mutation rate, especially compared to influenza. The way to combat the variants is to vaccinate as many people as possible. Vaccines have an enviable track record as centuries of data show, and vaccines are among the least profitable medicines around. Too many ignorant people want to return to the dark ages.

MarcelK Apr 18, 2021 09:36 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

"fog" indeed. Unlike older technologies, mRNA vaccines are easy to tailor to significant variants--mutations happen all the time but few are relevant, so neither are the facts that they are fast and unpredictable. That mRNA vaccines are very effective is a matter of scientific observation, not "trust in big pharma", which is a propagandist's bogeyman. Chile is using Sinovac, which has a lower efficacy, coupled with Christmas gatherings and New Year's festivities, and a sustained push to reopen all schools and shopping malls due to an anticipated sense of safety given the rapid pace of vaccinations. It's the same sort of letting down the guard that folks like Dr. Fauci have warned about.

a-1618769689 Apr 18, 2021 11:14 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Influenza is absolutely not a coronavirus. You are basing your dangerous opinions on misinformation from conspirational social media.

Channelfog Apr 18, 2021 02:52 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

"elk" I absolutely agree about masks, hygiene etc. China admits Sinovac has limited efficacy. Uruguay was stellar at the onset of Covid then the new right wing govt. dropped the ball and Uruguay now finds itself with stats like Brazil. We'll see how vaccination plays out, but a healthy diet/lifestyle and avoiding unnecessary contacts is prudent regardless.

gcheadley Apr 19, 2021 06:45 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

As of this weekend.
Chile vaccination rate 28.6
United State vaccination rate 25.7
I would not call either of those high vaccination rates. Only higher in comparison to other countries - but not high enough to do more than show a minor decrease in infections at this point.

PitMix Apr 19, 2021 09:31 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

RHS, when that statement was made originally, I checked the SM appts and they were all booked except one lonely appt (prob a cancellation). Bet you can't provide your statement is true.

MarcelK Apr 19, 2021 10:14 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

By "fog" I meant that's what you're laying down. I refuted your previous statements and now you're changing the subject ... I didn't say anything about masks or hygiene, just your false claims about vaccine efficacy, mutations, big pharma.

letmego Apr 19, 2021 11:58 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

@DUKE. I have my second dose this week at Goleta cottage. However, when I was trying to get my first dose (as soon as they expanded to 50+), there were no openings to be found, even via myturn. Myturn would SAY there were slots, but each thing you clicked on would take you somewhere and you'd go through the steps, and there were no slots... I think there was a big rush for the 50-64 year olds that first week.

dukemunson Apr 19, 2021 02:29 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Letmego - Maybe just bad/good timing. Last week there were tons of first shot slots available at cottage to anyone over 16 (like pretty much every day/any time) and when I checked back this weekend there were tons of slots for this week (Tuesday to Saturday) at Goleta Cottage. What a difference a week or two makes! Glad you got yours...cheers!

biguglystick Apr 17, 2021 03:37 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

I had to drive all the way to Oxnard to find an opening. A lot of people getting vaccinated and then acting like they are A-OK, when we know that we have to wait two additional weeks after the SECOND shot to be safe to visit in close contact with family. It's not a 100% cure all. Still be careful and social distance, still mask up when you're in public.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 17, 2021 06:33 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Maybe if we spent a bit more time holding accountable the people who are responsible for the initial outbreak, and less time criticizing those resistant to a life of indefinite vaccinations, and we won't find ourselves facing a similar mess in the near future.

Channelfog Apr 18, 2021 04:50 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Very good point CHEM, the Corona virus Pandora is out of the box, but what else are they concocting in theses biolabs? Conducting experiments to see how to make viruses jump species is exceedingly dangerous (stupid?)

Channelfog Apr 18, 2021 08:37 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

It would not be the first time that a virus escaped from a Chinese biolab. There is no conclusive evidence that this came from a lab other than its' extreme rate of mutation which is uncommon in nature. Wuhan Wet Market or Wuhan level 4 lab? My bet is on the lab.

a-1618769600 Apr 18, 2021 11:13 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

8:37 - SARS-CoV-2 does not have a high rate of mutation, so you're misinformed right from the start.

8:49 - Social media is not a good source for information on this topic.

Taras Apr 18, 2021 11:23 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

CSF, Love your posts. On a personal note,(probably none of my biz) Have you had any Vax. I was fully vaxed ( Pfizer) a month and a half ago. No problems so far.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 18, 2021 05:28 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

TARAS: I have not had the vaccine. I'm young, healthy and without any pre-existing conditions. Therefore I'd prefer to leave my allotment of the vaccine for those more at risk, particularly since it sounds like some people will be requiring at least three doses, plus boosters for variants, etc. I'm generous like that. So I'll wait, particularly since none of the vaccines are technically approved by the FDA for general use and I'm not interested in priming my immune system to be more easily infected by one of the more dangerous variants.

a-1618793354 Apr 18, 2021 05:49 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

5:28 - You're still spewing that misinformation. There is no way the vaccines make it easier for you to be infected by variants. In vaccinated people who do manage to contract COVID, more of them proportionally get a variant because the vaccines are less effective against some variants. But, the overall proportion of people who get COVID if vaccinated is still less than 0.0005%.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 18, 2021 06:35 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

One of the hallmarks of Antibody-dependent enhancement (Ref. 1) is non-neutralizing antibodies. Pfizer acknowledges in a recent paper, titled "Neutralizing Activity of BNT162b2-Elicited Serum", that the antibodies from their vaccine are no longer neutralizing against the South African variant (Ref. 2). Now it seems that people given the Pfizer vaccine more susceptible to infection from the South African variant than people who never had the vaccine (Ref. 3). Taken together, this is a very bad sign, but go ahead and deny the science---including the science from Pfizer's own research.

(Ref. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement
(Ref. 2) https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2102017
(Ref. 3) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.06.21254882v1

a-1618797833 Apr 18, 2021 07:03 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

I guess you're not too good at statistics. The study in Ref 3 you are basing your misinformation on had participants who were all infected, vaccinated or not. There were limited participants, especially because so few vaccinated people got infected. Because the variant can evade some of the antibodies produced by the vaccine, of course more of the vaccinated people (proportionally) who got sick had the variant. You're just spreading FUD.

A quote from an interview with Reuters by the authors: "The researchers cautioned, though, that the study only had a small sample size of people infected with the South African variant because of its rarity in Israel. They also said the research was not intended to deduce overall vaccine effectiveness against any variant, since it only looked at people who had already tested positive for COVID-19, not at overall infection rates."

No signs of ADE were seen. The paper hasn't been peer reviewed, either, so spreading fear is unjustified. What happened to your mantra of "peer reviewed, or you don't GAS"? I guess it's another manifestation of only seeing what you want to see.

MarcelK Apr 19, 2021 10:19 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Real scientists don't offer up silly quips when faced with a legitimate and thorough refutation. Pseudoscientists don't understand basic statistics; they can find papers but they can't understand them.

Alexblue Apr 19, 2021 10:55 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

LOL, Freak, "we" spent a LOT if time holding people accountable for the initial outbreak, "we" tossed the orange administration on the dust heap of history where it belongs.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 01:49 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

How does one thoroughly refute data from the vaccine makers themselves? I guess you didn't read the publications. Too challenging?

a-1618865793 Apr 19, 2021 01:56 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

1:49 - Simple. You read the whole paper, and don't cherry-pick only what you want to see. To quote from the paper:
"Neutralizing activity against the B.1.351 lineage virus was robust at a geometric mean titer that was much higher than that obtained after one dose of BNT162b2, when strong efficacy was already observed in the C4591001 efficacy trial.1-3 T-cell immunity may also be involved in protection,4 and BNT162b2 immunization elicits CD8+ T-cell responses that recognize multiple variants.5 Ultimately, conclusions about vaccine-mediated protection that are extrapolated from neutralization or T-cell data must be validated by real-world evidence collected in regions where the SARS-CoV-2 variants are circulating."

Voice of Reason Apr 19, 2021 03:01 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Alex, one thing we've learned very well over the past year is how much we don't know about the virus. Nothing anyone else in the White House could have done would have prevented covid from spreading like wildfire throughout the US. Hindsight has showed us that the best we could have done is isolate and protect the elderly and at-risk (not throw covid positives into nursing homes, big oops there), kept schools open (failed), and provide the necessary resources to develop and distribute a vaccine as quickly as possible (success!). The fear mongering media (see Bill Maher's monologue from the weekend) and the the politicians (on both sides) knee-jerk responses, only made this much much worse.

Alexblue Apr 19, 2021 04:47 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

VOrR—“nothing” could have been done differently by the WH to make a difference?

So you think that calling coverage of the virus a hoax and Trump refusing to wear a mask along with most of the WH leadership had no impact on behaviors by the US population?

Could honesty about the threat have made a difference?

a-1618882263 Apr 19, 2021 06:31 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

3:01 PM - One thing we've learned over the past year is just how much you don't know, and refuse to learn, about viruses, epidemiology, and economics.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 07:11 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

06:31 PM - One thing we've learned over the past year is that you don't know the difference between stannum, stannic, stannous, finite vs. infinite potential energy wells, and science in general. Ever figure out those pesky oxidation states of the transition metals yet? You desperately want to run with the adults, but just can't quite keep up. I'd like to say that I admire your persistence, but you are too unsure of yourself and choose to hide your handle instead of confronting people in the open.

Alexblue Apr 19, 2021 07:55 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Freak, you’re just as anonymous as 6:31, unless the name on your CDL is Chemical Superfreak, which, considering your hyperbole and lack of rigorous thought outside of your narrow area of (self-proclaimed) expertise might not be a big surprise after all.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 08:01 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

My hyperbole? Really? I'm not the one who had a full meltdown and got banned over an octopus. That was one for the books.

MarcelK Apr 19, 2021 09:55 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Data is not an argument, it must be interpreted, and doing so correctly requires certain kinds of knowledge. The arguments you make are not arguments made by the vaccine manufacturers ... they understand statistics. You think that if 8 times as many vaccinated people in a study are infected with the variant as the number of unvaccinated people, then one can extrapolate that to the population at large--even when the criterion of the study was that *everyone in the study was infected*. Anyone with a basic understanding of statistics (which is essential to do "real science") knows you can't do that, because the number of vaccinated infected people is much smaller than the number of unvaccinated infected people. Since the vaccine is less effective against the variant than the original strain, of course a sample of vaccinated infected people will be dominated by the variant, whereas among unvaccinated infected people the percentage of those with the variant will resemble that of the population from which the sample was drawn. You can't compare percentages--which is what you're doing if the size of the vaccinated and unvaccinated samples are the same--and conclude anything about absolute numbers. The fact is that far more unvaccinated people are infected with the variant than vaccinated people are ... the claim that 1/8 as many are is absurd and wrong.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 10:47 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

"a significantly higher proportion of B.1.351 was observed in FE cases vs. unvaccinated controls (OR of 8:1, one-sided exact McNemar test, p=0.02)."

8:1, FE (full effectiveness): unvaccinated.

You seem to have trouble understanding this study.

a-1618916301 Apr 20, 2021 03:58 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

10:47 - Again demonstrating that you either have poor understanding of statistics, or very poor understanding of the English language.

a-1618916689 Apr 20, 2021 04:04 AM
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People who routinely exhibit egotism and gratuitous sociopathy, make absurd assumptions to construct straw man arguments, veer off on odd tangents when cornered, and assiduously cherry pick to reject data they dislike do not exactly radiate scientific integrity. The same goes for those whose contrafactual opinions are based on tribal social media under the guise of keeping an open mind.

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