Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

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The state and local COVID-19 guidance dictate restaurants are only able to serve delivery and takeout meals until the lockdown is lifted. I've seen several restaurants downtown and in Montecito serving outdoor diners, and in one case indoor diners. What's going to happen to these businesses if they continue to rebuff the rules?

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Crystalandmaui Jan 12, 2021 07:33 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Outside dinning was going pretty well, I saw more tables outside with people then I ever saw inside.
Santa Barbara was the place to travel to again. So all the tourists were here, but the people Here from Santa Barbara kept saying restrict outside residents , the tourists are the ones bringing the covid here. Well those were obviously the ones also keeping the restaurants alive and the retail.
I did see the restaurant’s over crowding their spaces , people were not 6 feet apart. Your not wearing a mask to eat or drink. And food handlers are not disinfecting their hands or the condiments touched by everyone. You do not know till 3 days later if you were exposed by someone. Good luck tracking it down and if you do then what? I drove around town Saturday night, it was sad to see all restaurants closed and a once very busy town with happy people no longer here. Yes the retail stores were open this time but that was it. It was very dismal, and I do have to wonder how can any business survive this? Wow this is truly the worst thing that has happened to the USA and the world. This is a war . And people just don’t know how to handle it because it’s invisible at first. So how do you cope? We never had a Germ warfare war.
We don’t know how to accept it, fix it, or believe it. Now we just want to fight with each other. This is just the second year, it’s not over. Maybe 3 years to make any head way . This is crazy.
Most of us don’t know how long a recovery after a war takes.
I will keep pushing along with hope and my mask and sanitizing wipes as long as it takes.

[email protected] Jan 12, 2021 07:42 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Open up all small businesses, now you crooks, and anyone that doesnt support this shouldnt shop at costco, home depot, walmart, target, etc. cause the science doesnt apply to commodoties and big Corp.
Montesano should open up all his doors cause they're going out of business eventually if not, and the workers in his restaurants go homeless, Id rather allow natural selection and herd immunity take place ...

NostraChumash Jan 12, 2021 07:54 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Funny..everyone except the commentors on this forum..Are Wrong!!
All the answers can be found right here, if only science & humanity would listen & follow their recommendations!.
How is this possible..or, am I reading mere opinion, which is as valid as..nothing?

theaaaron Jan 12, 2021 08:37 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

I take Covid and Covid safety VERY seriously. However outdoor dining, properly spaced should be allowed. It may not be 100% safe but driving on the 101 is not 100% safe. Indoor dining is another thing and probably should be banned.

Ahchooo Jan 12, 2021 08:51 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

The problem seems to be that people meet up with others from outside their household. Dining outside is not safe if you are mingling with others while doing so.

420722 Jan 12, 2021 10:56 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Ahchoo- people are still meeting up anyway. Restaurants have been closed for over a month now. It’s more than obvious outdoor dinning was not the problem.

ZeroHawk Jan 12, 2021 04:35 PM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

420722 incorrect. people dining amounst strangers, maskless and sitting within a few feet from each other is no different than how we were 2 years ago...just outside. If i'm 3 feet from you at Baja Sharkees (yuk), and i have covid and sneeze, guess what...you have it too as do about 10 other people within the 'spray zone'. your statement is just mind numbing dumb.

Voice of Reason Jan 12, 2021 04:40 PM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Zero is incorrect. Restaurants / bars were doing an excellent job keeping spacing among strangers outdoors. Not that you actually need to be too concerned about a stranger passing by 3ft away outdoors, remember the CDC says 6ft or closer, indoors, for over 15 minutes. Besides, in your scenario you're the a-hole for sneezing on everyone.

clawmarks Jan 12, 2021 08:38 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Stay-at-home order aside, the restaurant regulation is very short and leaves a lot of space for gray. “Restaurants may remain open for take-out and delivery.” It doesn’t say that patrons may not eat their takeout on the tables outside. Anyone been to Pismo recently? Take-out counters at every restaurant and people enjoying their take-out at the outside tables in the sunshine and bussing themselves.

ZeroHawk Jan 12, 2021 09:30 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

Gene the owner of Joes and several other diners is doing this. I've already had a few choice words for him. This is quite ridiculous. These people are not health officials, nor are they anyone with authority to OK this. Putting their staff and servers at risk and poisoning minds of potential customers that it's "safe". It is not safe. Dinning, maskless, in a closed room with strangers is anything but safe or smart. I personally feel he should be fined heavily and have his license revoked. This is just dangerous and reckless. I don't care about who you vote for or what kind of money you make. This is about stopping a virus that is spreading like wildfire. This is about protecting those you care about. Just because YOU are in good health doesnt mean others around you are, nor does it mean that you can go about freely and disregard common sense and logic. Is eating out that important to you? So important that you would bring your staff back in and expose them to potential harm? Same for your clients. Is it worth it? We are all in this together and we are all suffering in one way or another. Gene, you're a fool.

horsegirl Jan 12, 2021 11:37 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

yeah GREAT lets shut down more small businesses. I always wanted Santa Barbara to be filled with chain restaurants taking the place of local restaurants who have been closed, especially when they replace classics like Joe's.

sacjon Jan 12, 2021 11:52 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

HORSEGIRL - should we allow them to violate the rules and perpetuate the spread of a deadly virus? The rest of us are obeying the health orders, why shouldn't they? My kids can't go to school, our income has tanked due to a family business being completely shutdown since March, we haven't visited any family out of the area, kids aren't playing sports at out of state tournaments, etc etc.... why should my family lose money and suffer through the orders, while others ignore the rules and contribute to the risk?

ZeroHawk Jan 12, 2021 04:33 PM
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horsegirl....seriously? ok so let them violate set in place rules by those that have degrees way higher than both of us, spread the virus around more, maybe infect a few of the employees? Just so a few random townies can eat at a restaurant and a business owner can get some more cash. How about...no! Also....Joes quality went way down when Gene took over. Besides the point. I do not care one bit if a restaraunt is open or not, but i certainly care if my fellow Santa Barbarians contract COVID, even you. The business owners need to fall in line and revamp for to go orders and expand their menu and ordering hours if they want to make cash. Period. People like Gene have spread himself so thin that he thinks exposing his employees to COVID is ok as long as he gets his $$. If our businesses are that stretched, perhaps they need to seriously rethink how they are operating. My friend JJ and his ship were affected. In fact, he had to close...and guess what...he reopned with a different menu and name and is doing much better with to go and delivery orders....just a suggestion....and really is it the end of the world if you can't go out at dine at Joes cafe or the Sandbar? Nope, but it will be the end if you catch COVID. Fact.

NostraChumash Jan 12, 2021 12:00 PM
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See?..the proof is in the downvotes..
"How DARE a person expose our selfishness"
I was'nt born entitled, so it's easier for me to view from outside of the circle of immaturity.

Voice of Reason Jan 12, 2021 04:41 PM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

I'm still at a loss for an answer to my original question. Can someone please explain to me how CA has been having an insane spike in cases with no indoor dining for 6 months, no outdoor dining in nearly two months, while FL (among other states) has had unrestricted indoor dinning since end of September and their cases (per capita) have been significantly less than ours since they opened?

PitMix Jan 13, 2021 07:26 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

VO?, why do you keep posting misinformation? Shouldn't you be on Parler? "But wait! Isn’t California much bigger than Florida? Indeed. California has nearly 40 million residents; Florida, about 22 million. Control for the difference and the picture changes. Florida has more cases per 100,000 residents. More deaths, too."
https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2020/12/12/is-florida-better-than-california-at-containing-the-coronavirus-analysis/

pstarSR Jan 13, 2021 08:07 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

I really want to know your "agenda" why do you keep trying to derail this issue with false information. what do you gain from this? im guessing you own a restaurant or something. because the MAIN thing you post is outdoor dining. Sorry your restaurant is closed VOR, but seriously. its for the betterment of everyone. its called being part of a community. not being part of a singularity.

Voice of Reason Jan 13, 2021 08:36 AM
Restaurants Opening Outdoor Dining?

There is zero misinformation in my post. Oh, but CA tests more! Well, to date CA has performed 895 tests per million residents, FL has performed 1241 per million residents. Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111716/covid19-us-positive-tests-by-state/ _____FACT: CA has more covid cases per capita than FL:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker ______ So I will ask again, ____"Can someone please explain to me how CA has been having an insane spike in cases with no indoor dining for 6 months, no outdoor dining in nearly two months, while FL (among other states) has had unrestricted indoor dinning since end of September and their cases (per capita) have been significantly less than ours since they opened?"_____ Instead of grasping at straws trying to argue with me I recommended opening your mind a little. This is my third time asking this question, still now answer....

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