Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

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Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings
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By the City of Santa Barbara

The City of Santa Barbara (City) is removing the green bike markings on the State Street Promenade. The purpose of the green markings were to channel cyclists to the center of the street and pedestrians to the sides of the street so user movements were more predictable.

While the green markings were effective positioning cyclists near the center of the street, the green markings were less effective positioning pedestrians to the sides of the street. Because of this, the city is removing the green markings and exploring other options for cyclists and pedestrians to coexist in the promenade.

Please expect traffic detours and delays at State Street intersections from Ortega Street to Victoria Street on Thursday, October 20 and Friday, October 21, while the markings are being removed. To minimize impacts to the public, work will start each day at 6 a.m. and should be complete by 5 p.m.

As a reminder, please continue to be SAFE ON STATE: All road users to be alert, stop at red lights, keep a safe distance, watch your speeds, and be respectful.

For more information, please watch: youtube.com/CityofSBTV


By NatureBoy

So after spending all that money to paint the (strangely sporadic) green bike lane markers on State Street, the city has apparently decided to spend even more money to erase them by oiling them over. Anyone know what gives?

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a-1666282420 Oct 20, 2022 09:13 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

Why no cost estimate for this decision? The attempt to cater to bicyclists is increasingly expensive and takes resources from the 99% of us who don't use self-powered bicycles. (I exclude the electric bike crowd as they should be subject to the same laws as all non-people powered vehicles.)

Bird Oct 20, 2022 09:44 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

@9:13, a propos of catering to bicyclists, this is what Goleta intends for the Old Town section of Hollister Avenue:
"The Project addresses parking, speed, and safety concerns in Old Town, and includes:
One vehicle and bike lane in each direction
A non-traversable painted median
Back-in angled 90-minute parking along the north side of the street
Parallel 90-minute parking along the south side of the street ..."

bosco Oct 20, 2022 09:55 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

This goes to show why we can't have nice things. Too many people just don't care to follow simple instructions anymore. People are too self absorbed to see how their actions affect others around them.

That said, there is no reason people need to bike down State Street. Better bike lanes on side streets would be a better method.

Ehdat Oct 20, 2022 12:33 PM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

@Bosco "no reason people need to bike down State Street" lol. Why should State have stores? You can buy stuff on the internet. Why are there places to get food? Can't you get something to eat at the grocery store?

Sensibly Common Oct 20, 2022 01:40 PM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

There are no bike lanes on Anacapa or Chapala. Adding bike lanes to those streets would probably mean parking removal which doesn’t seem like a good idea.

halibut52 Oct 20, 2022 10:19 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

@Bosco, But no, think of the precious visitors to SB who won't get to experience the joy of biking on State st & window shop the multitude of businesses there.
Now if I can just get my tongue out my cheek.

a-1666308047 Oct 20, 2022 04:20 PM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

FYI: Skating or skateboarding has never been allowed on State St. There used to be signs around. Don't know if they are still around. Laughable, I know.

a-1666297416 Oct 20, 2022 01:23 PM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

Bike, skate, or hide! This is the loud and clear message from cyclists, skaters and government. Electric bikes, boards and scooters have deliberately zipped past from behind nearly touching us many times walking the "promenade" and demanded the right of way in vehicle lanes. Cyclists have done it occasionally but less on State, and sometimes even obey the red lights. Electrics of all kinds are far worse, all over the street including sidewalks and moving at vehicular speeds with no clue how long it takes to stop much less avoid a pedestrian who doesn't see and can't hear them especially approaching from behind. How is it we haven't heard of any injuries? Maybe none serious enough yet to get media attention? Maybe nobody has sued the city yet? As it is now, only people indoors or sitting and watching it all in the new street sanctuaries are relatively safe. Just be sure to look both ways when you exit, because now you're stepping into busy, fast, inconsiderate, and inattentive traffic.

Nature Boy Oct 20, 2022 10:35 PM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

“ FYI: Skating or skateboarding has never been allowed on State St. There used to be signs around. Don't know if they are still around. Laughable, I know.”

Actually, the law and the signs state (i think) that skateboarding is not allowed on the SIDEWALK. My friend has one of those signs that are attached to every signpost on State.

swarfmaster Oct 21, 2022 08:19 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

Electric bikes along that part of State are moving at most car speeds. That and their weight means eventually someone is going to be seriously injured or even killed by one of these things doing 25 mph or so.

a-1666376693 Oct 21, 2022 11:24 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

A-1666366233, That never happens with any government agency. They spend like there is no limit and if they screw up or overspend on their project there is NO accountability.

Gimli Oct 21, 2022 09:23 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

I myself still walk on the sidewalks on State St. because even though there are times when I crossed State St. around mid block, I have been very close in getting hit by a bicyclist or a skateboarder. I say it is time for the restaurants to remove the parklets and open up State St. for vehicles. The restaurant owners have to pay the city rent for having the parklets on State St. And and top of that they have to pay a lot of insurance for each seating in case someone slips, falls and might get injured. That is one reason why it costs so much to dine and have alcohol beverages, as well as the high cost of the lease.

letmego Oct 21, 2022 09:45 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

It seems like for safety reasons, maybe a separated, dedicated bike path is the answer? So, if you want the bike path to be in the center, use concrete or other barriers that only allow pedestrians to cross at certain locations.

When I think of the other places I've been where cycling is a lot more normal, and lives harmoniously with walking...the two areas are distinctly separated. Sidewalk. Bike lane. Road.

a-1666376883 Oct 21, 2022 11:28 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

LetMeGo, I've visited many European cities with numerous bikes as well as pedestrians, without separations, and they all seem to deal OK with it. Why are they able do it but we can't?

letmego Oct 24, 2022 09:37 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

I have also been to Europe where they live harmoniously - but the areas are distinct (if not with a barrier) - there are definite sidewalks, roads, and bike lanes.

Stray Oct 22, 2022 08:49 AM
Removal of State Street’s Green Bike Markings

Gimli, in re: "it is time for the restaurants to remove the parklets and open up State St. for vehicles." Think back to State Street circa 2019. State Street was becoming one closed storefront after another with car traffic, and populated by homeless folks camping on doorsteps. The foot traffic model of shopping at Paseo Nuevo anchored by Macy's and Nordstrom's was dying due to mail order shopping. The pandemic just enhanced their demise. The patient (State Street) was dying (as a business district). The successful surgery was turning it into a pedestrian zone and bringing folks back downtown again. No doubt State Street now has its aesthetic problems, but bringing cars and parades back (4 x year?) was and is a losing economic proposition.

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