Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

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A bipartisan group rallied in Montecito in support of recalling Gov. Gavin Newsom Friday, September 10, 2021.

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SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 14, 2021 08:37 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Jacobson v. Massachusetts - 1905 SCOTUS. Read more VOR, learn more and stop pretending you understand when the evidence is overwhelming liking up against your supposition...

Voice of Reason Sep 14, 2021 08:25 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

There are other options than public school, like private school, or home schooling and even states that don't require immunizations. Our president would like to force everyone in the US to inject themselves with something if they want to hold a job. Except of course the White House, congress, USPS, they're exempt because "Science TM"!

Voice of Reason Sep 14, 2021 07:39 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

I like this part of your quote 1660, especially alongside the fact that we can’t control a virus no matter how much we want to (or blindly follow politicians who claim they can). “ To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy.”

Voice of Reason Sep 14, 2021 06:53 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Please tell me, is there any other “responsibility” that forces you to inject something into your body to participate in society?

x01660 Sep 13, 2021 05:48 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Also (once again):

" And THAT was the soft spot which destroyed what was in many ways an admirable culture... their citizens... glorified their mythology of 'rights'... and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure."

~Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

yacht rocked Sep 13, 2021 05:33 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Out on the road today, I saw a "Elder" sticker on a Cadillac
A little voice inside my head said, "Don't look back. You can never look back"
- Apologies to Don Henley

localSBtown Sep 13, 2021 03:46 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Let's go Elder! So encouraging to see that there are enough sensible people in California to get this recall on the books and a chance for a terrible governor out of here. California will be red again one day if the democratic party keeps their destructive (and self destrutive) habits up. The libs should be happy too since Gavin's most possibly replacement is African American!

dukemunson Sep 15, 2021 06:55 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

It was a waste, but newsome has been terrible. He was saved by the lunacy of elder and the inability of a moderate Democrat to viably enter the race.

MarcelK Sep 15, 2021 06:36 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

" enough sensible people in California to get this recall on the books and a chance for a terrible governor out of here" <- it was the arch opposite of sensible.

TheKid5 Sep 13, 2021 03:41 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Elder will not wake up on September 15th as governor because Newsom will not be recalled on September 14th!

Mas Gaviota Sep 13, 2021 02:51 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Uhhh Tom Bradley, a person of color ran for governor in 1982 and 1986 in a normal general election. Memo to the Pro Recall protestors: making the traffic worse than it already is with your demonstration is a horrible way to get votes.

CoastWatch Sep 13, 2021 01:29 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

I find it entertaining if anyone posts ANY political viewpoint other than the DOMINANT Democrat rule, and I mean 95% ruling political party in now, a very changed California, the comments are down voting and ridiculed at "Trump" voters... LOL~ I guess everyone's political GOAL is 100% domination over the people... That is scary.

forrealnews Sep 13, 2021 12:59 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Really??!!! People are surprised that there are right-wingers in over-the-top-wealthy-white Montecito?

RHS Sep 13, 2021 12:57 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

This is a pretty small group. Looks like maybe 2 dozen. They seem to be the crowd that follows Elder around. Probably paid to do so but may be just enthusiasts. One cannot trust any of this anymore as we know that politicians regularly hire folks to make a showing. (The ethics of those taking the money is another question--Trump began his candidacy with hired NY models and actors watching him descend the escalator. Pretty likely he also hired the "Black for Trump" persona that was de riguer at every rally right behind him.) So don't be too impressed by this sort of small event.

MarcelK Sep 15, 2021 06:32 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

"the FBI released their report regarding 1/6, and it doesn't match your false rhetoric" <- lying, as always, "the looting, rioting, and burring of police stations egged on by ever member of the left that was looking to score some woke political point" <- lying, as always.

sacjon Sep 14, 2021 08:39 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

OGSB - Thanks, but my comment about Trump was in response to the TDS comment on Sept 13, at 1:03pm so no, it was not "whataboutism" and my subsequent comments to VOICE were not hypocritical in the vein.

OGSB Sep 13, 2021 07:45 PM
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Sac, 1st: Not siding with or saying anything that happened at the capital was okay. That said, Yeah, read the transcript... or just a non-right-wing media fact check.
AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s call to action distorted in debate
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-us-capitol-remarks-221518bc174f9bc3dd6e108e653ed08d
Just a bunch of crazies that got riled up, just like the riots. I'm 100% against ALL of it. They should all be rounded up and prosecuted! At least the capital ones are, but they all should be. Unfortunately, it's all political.
#2: You can't have a conversation go from a hand full of people holding signs to get people to vote their way, then to trump, then accuse another about whataboutism.

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sacjon Sep 13, 2021 05:13 PM
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VOICE - just this and I'm done. Trump may not have said to his followers (no one else was listening) to "drink bleach," but his comment about injecting it sure influenced them....

"A new survey from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that 4% of respondents consumed or gargled diluted bleach solutions, soapy water and other disinfectants in an effort to protect themselves from the coronavirus......The survey, which consisted of more than 500 participants, was conducted in May – after President Donald Trump's widely criticized coronavirus task force briefing in April in which he pondered the use of disinfectants to treat the virus." ---- https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-05/cdc-some-people-did-take-bleach-to-protect-from-coronavirus

sacjon Sep 13, 2021 05:10 PM
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VOICE - whataboutism, your favorite and, usually only, response. Not engaging with this level of dishonesty.

But, since I can't just walk away (as you tend to do), here you go: "The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result" ----- yep, read that again. It has NOTHING to do with, nor does it conclude that Trump in no way instigated, encouraged, supported, failed to stop, etc etc the violent insurrection against our democracy. In fact, that it was not an organized and planned, premeditated attack, lends even MORE credence to the idea that the insurrection was the result of an inflammatory and bombastic event (gee, I wonder what....) that fed lies and paranoid rhetoric into a crowd of agitated and gullible rioters who were clearly ready for violence. To say Trump had nothing to do with the cowardly attack on my government is intellectually dishonest and treasonous, if you ask me.

And I don't give a rats &&^ about every word in his speech, he knew what he was doing. He'd been doing it for over 4 years. His people wanted to fight, he told them to "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" and "We're going to the Capitol!" as if to rally them behind him. Sadly, the poor fools thought they were truly an army of patriots being led into battle by a pathetic cowards.

No man, you're just wrong.

Voice of Reason Sep 13, 2021 04:54 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

In case your google is broken, I think that link says Reuters, not Fox News.... https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

Voice of Reason Sep 13, 2021 04:54 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

I bet you still think he told people to drink bleach and colluded with the Russians to get elected....

Voice of Reason Sep 13, 2021 04:52 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

It must be nice living with hands over your eyes and fingers in your ears ignoring half of reality, you didn't even google FBI 1/6. No wonder you guys think everything is hunky dory in CA and our governor has done a good job. Sac when you bring up violence against police instigated by politicians, the summer riots and associated violence that was openly encourage by current members of the house and senate is absouteltly fair game and not whataboutsim. You also clearly haven't actually read anything about the timeline from 1/6 and continue to parrot snippets from the media. I bet you didn't even listen or read his speech that day in full, just a few 5 second soundbites carefully selected by the talking head you so on TV so now you're an expert and know more than the FBI.

a-1631572886 Sep 13, 2021 03:41 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

OMG Voice of Unreason, there is no FBI report regarding 1/6 that has exonerated Trump or his people of guilt for attack on the capitol. All that you heard about on Fox News was information from "sources" in the FBI. Baaaaaa baaaaa sheepie.

sacjon Sep 13, 2021 02:48 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

VOICE - 1) This isn't about the summer riots. Whataboutism, so stop it. 2) attacking our capitol was insurrection. No, Trump didn't say "go attack the capitol," but he sure as heck took his sweet time telling them to stop after he whipped the low-IQ fools into frenzy saying Congress is "stealing" their election. Nuances and subtleties, man. They're important.

Voice of Reason Sep 13, 2021 02:44 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

OMG Sac, I don't think you could put more hypocrisy and false information in two sentences. You do know the FBI released their report regarding 1/6, and it doesn't match your false rhetoric? And were you camping out of internet range all last summer to miss the looting, rioting, and burring of police stations egged on by ever member of the left that was looking to score some woke political points? I can't even with you....

sacjon Sep 13, 2021 02:18 PM
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"TDS" or whatever you want to call it is a good thing. No true American should be OK with fomenting insurrection and violence against our law enforcement officers.

a-1631566615 Sep 13, 2021 01:56 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

TDS is still here because the orange moron is still around, and still just as deranged.

Chip of SB Sep 13, 2021 11:58 AM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

Wow! I would not have expected to see that in montecito. This is very encouraging and gives me hope. Way to get out there and make a difference! Hopefully we will have a new governor soon.

ZeroHawk Sep 14, 2021 12:09 PM
Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

hahaha I'm just a realist Sac...i sit in the middle of the aisle, and my chances would be as good as Jello Biafra's chances when he ran against Jerry Brown in the 80s (Jello was/is the front man for the Dead Kennedys punk band from SF, very politically motivated). Plus...my hair isn't nearly as cool as Newsomes, nor do i have as many blind followers as Eldar.

ZeroHawk Sep 14, 2021 10:58 AM
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um Chip....that all sounds good to you? easing mandated mask requirements? so you want a state like other red states that have soaring COVID deaths? Really? Go to Florida then dude. Or Texas. Stay there. So is Elder going to talk to the clouds and make more rain happen and more el ninos? no he can't and won't. Improving forest management? How? Following that idiot Trumps suggestion of raking the forest? It's caused by drought. Also by weather. Also by idiots playing with fire. It's random. So no, Elder can't stop or controll that either. Next item, freeway infrastructure? our freeways have been under improvement construction for over 25 years. So that has already happened under someone else's term. Reduce restrictions on property development. Ok, so build build build. Then what? Wait for a rainstorm to destroy the big homes that were freshly built on cliffs and protected bluffs and in protected open space areas? Right. Just turn it all into concrete so the developers can build more housing that very few can afford or want, being built on once protected lands. Reduce the cost of gasoline? By removing all of the emission controls we have in our fuel? Yeah let's erase any positive progress that we have made in 20 years, just so you can save maybe $3.00 per station visit. Right.
You ask what Newsome has done to improve our lives? Well let's see, i'll start and end with the same point. He forced idiots like yourself to wear a mask, even though you think you know more than doctors and scientists and virologists, so others don't get the virus and die. I DON'T CARE THAT HE WENT TO A FANCY DINNER. Good for him. That's on his time, he can do what he wants. You're also trying to grade newsome during a pandemic when everything has fallen apart and during a 4 year terrible presidency that bashed our state and tried to withhold funding. Newsome is managing the 5th largest economy on EARTH. He's doing as good as anyone can. The points you make are baffling but predictable considering you think Trump was a good president.

sbmh2015 Sep 13, 2021 09:04 PM
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Along with getting rid of minimum wage, all mask rules, all vaccine rules, paying slave owners for loss of their "property", etc., etc.
Should be great ...NOT

sacjon Sep 13, 2021 03:55 PM
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CHIP - those things sound good, good luck with that! Does Larry have a great forest sweeping plan? Maybe an "in" with some broom manufacturers?

But seriously.... "ease covid restrictions and mask rules" --- why? How many restrictions do you see in place these days? Kids are back in school, youth sports are back, pro sports are back, all businesses are open. So, again, what "covid restrictions" still need easing? Are people really still whining about muh freedoms?

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