Public Safety Power Shut Off Recap

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On Saturday and Sunday, Southern California Edison (SCE) enabled the first-ever Public Safety Power Shutoff due to warm temperatures, red flag warnings, and high wind warnings. 

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a-1567965160 Sep 08, 2019 10:52 AM
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I’m still without power as of 10:50 am Sunday. According to their website, they’re still “analyzing the problem” but I’ve heard they shut the power down in my area due to weather (Off Patterson just west of Cathedral Oaks.) The communication hasn’t been very good in my opinion and the resources they provided in terms of information have been lacking.

a-1567966110 Sep 08, 2019 11:08 AM
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"Public Safety" would be better served leaving power on. Only 9% of fires start from downed power lines; turning off power in advance is an extreme measure. Noleta residents couldn't decipher Edison's plans from their website.

Channelfog Sep 08, 2019 11:44 AM
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Unreliable utilities are a hallmark of third world countries, check. Third world countries primarily export raw materials and import finished goods, check. Third world countries run up astronomical debts at all levels, check. Third world countries cannot care for their lowest castes, check.

MountainMan4865 Sep 08, 2019 11:47 AM
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We, in Painted Cave, were informed yesterday that we were no longer being considered for the shut off, but the power went out abruptly a little after 6pm. Power is still out, with a planned outage all day tomorrow to replace pole, and another on Thursday to replace another pole. We're still listed in the very first stage of "Outage reported" on the Edison website. This is coupled with the fact that the batteries in the phone box for the community are dead - so we are also without phones mountain wide. The word 'boondoggle' comes to mind.

a-1567968548 Sep 08, 2019 11:49 AM
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Our local powerful residents in certain communities know the owners and Board members of Edison, and probably own stock, and pay the huge bonuses. Shame on you. SHAME on you! Your neighbors should be asking you questions.

SBSBSBSBSBsb Sep 08, 2019 11:52 AM
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You should leave them channelfog. Santa Barbara would be much better off without all the complainers

Channelfog Sep 08, 2019 11:59 AM
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SBSB........, Santa Barbara is nothing like it was decades ago, and unfortunately that goes for the Nation as well. Yes, we sold and moved to another third world country where the power is reliable and the down trodden receive at least basic care. We do have to speak Spanish here though :-)

a-1567968950 Sep 08, 2019 11:55 AM
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Three-card monte, shutoffs by Edison -- is a confidence game in which the victim, or "mark", is tricked.

rwelsh Sep 08, 2019 12:24 PM
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Wow, what ultimate control these utility companies have. Very scary. What if the people were having a protest? Or the government didn't like something we were doing? "Oooopppps. Your power is out. You can't open your garages, charge your phones/computers, keep your food from spoiling, use your fans, buy stuff at stores, etc, etc, etc..." No, its not horrible so far. But the ability for absolute control is in their hands. Fear is a powerful tool.

a-1567971399 Sep 08, 2019 12:36 PM
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Power is still out. No update and no clear idea when power will be back on. That is some BS. At least give us some information instead of (literally) leaving us in the dark.

MT Sep 08, 2019 12:46 PM
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Power back on in the Trout Club. Generator kept the food cold and devices charged. Those that are concerned about Edison’s control over your power, suggest you invest in a small portable generator, very handy to have around. Portable batteries are also great, look at GoalZero. Inexpensive with portable solar charging as well.

Channelfog Sep 08, 2019 02:40 PM
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MT, Kudos for taking responsibility for your own interim power needs. This is a good example of what capable people do. The "Daddy fix it" crowd are SO screwewd1

Shasta Guy Sep 08, 2019 03:16 PM
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I’m with CHANNELFOG, excellent job MT. This was a baby outage compared to what will happen when we get a 3-5 day area wide outage comparable to the event that led to the Thomas Fire. You’ll only have three choices: 1) be prepared like MT to keep your fridge cool and devices charged 2) have some ice blocks ready in your freezer to keep things cool for ~24 hrs until you use them up 3) don’t do anything, let your fridge stuff melt & spoil, and be without communications in the dark. Don’t whine, get better prepared, and do your best to assist your elderly neighbors.

SBSBSBSBSBsb Sep 08, 2019 12:47 PM
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I’ve lived here for my entire life and I can count the times the power went out on one hand. He have extremely reliable utilities. Go to Haiti for a week to see what unreliable utilities are like.

a-1567972264 Sep 08, 2019 12:51 PM
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You must have a lot of fingers! :)

I’ve been here all my life as well (except for a short period away), and there have been plenty of power outages from fires, repairs, and general failures. Though this is the first time it’s been off as a preventative measure. I’m curious what Edison is doing to bury their lines so we don’t have this problem anymore...

tagdes Sep 08, 2019 01:34 PM
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Edison is not burying and will not bury the lines. Any regular here knows the story, but briefly...our mountains are made of stone; limestone, sandstone and shale, not topsoil. There is no way to get through the boulders and rock formations up there and recoup the cost let alone have it done in our lifetime.

Shasta Guy Sep 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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They will never bury the lines. It’s impossible to bury the 200kV main transmission lines that snake to us from Ventura through the mountains and chaparral.

Channelfog Sep 08, 2019 03:20 PM
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You make a very good point Shasta Guy, the cost to bury such a high potential line is higher than SCE stockholders would consider. It is technologically dooable even under todays' strict environmental requirements and serves long term public good, but not short term stockholder good. And so there we are.

a-1567995248 Sep 08, 2019 07:14 PM
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TAGDES: Although 20 years ago, who would have thought we'd all be "conversing" instantaneously, at no cost (apart from paying for devices and WiFi), and have so much data and social interaction right at our fingertips? Who knows what we shall see accomplished "in our lifetime?"

a-1567972316 Sep 08, 2019 12:51 PM
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I'm hoping John Wiley, SHASTA GUY, or somebody good at calculations will put together a chart of where power outages have happened, Patterson, Trout Club, Painted Cave, #154, Foothill/154. We all need to know what has happened, and ask our Supervisors and County Government CEO and Dept. Heads what they plan to do to protect us in the future. If you can't do the job, we'll get somebody who can. Are you REALLY ok with this?

Z Sep 08, 2019 01:54 PM
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What a bunch of crybabies. "ask our Supervisors and County Government CEO and Dept. Heads what they plan to do to protect us . . ." "Wow, what ultimate control these utility companies have.""Noleta residents couldn't decipher Edison's plans" "I’ve heard they shut the power down in my area" "Our local powerful residents in certain communities know the owners and Board members" Local governments have little or no control in these matters. If you've got a bitch take it to the Public Utilities Com mission. As for "Wondering if all Edison customers will receive a discount . . ." you have got to be kidding, you pay for kilowatt-hours delivered. The PSPS shutdown was on the Gaviota coast, the other shutdowns were caused by damage from high winds; unreasonable expectations are at fault for virtually all the complaints.

MT Sep 08, 2019 02:40 PM
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Says the person who tries to hide their handle behind a black bar... No cause was ever identified for the 154 outage. There was even an Edison helicopter flying over the area this morning, probably inspecting the lines. I suspect Edison shut off the Noleta area and called it “Equipment Failure” after they told everyone they wouldn’t get a PSPS shutdown. Power came back on exactly at 1230pm per their estimate, despite them never identifying a problem and dispatching a repair crew.

Z Sep 08, 2019 03:17 PM
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I'm not hiding "MT" my handle is "Z." Is it really suspicious that they made a good time estimate? What do they get out of shutting off Noleta electricity? They may not have dispatched a repair crew; they contract out a lot of their maintenance/repair/installation work. What's so suspicious about a helicopter? Are you hiding something?

Flicka Sep 08, 2019 03:25 PM
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Good grief, they warned of turning off power. Take precautions when warned, block ice in fridge, battery lamps. What do you suppose our ancestors did when there was no electricity or phones. Somehow they survived or we wouldn't be here. Of course they are taking precautions when there are high winds predicted and excessively dry conditions. If their lines started a fire there would be screaming . Supposedly the Thomas fire was caused by lines blown down. Want a repeat?

Channelfog Sep 08, 2019 03:43 PM
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I suppose that our ancestors had a level of capacity to survive, and a level of "Common Sense" that has virtually evaporated today. My grandparents and great grandparents (3) explained plenty of what survival required of them. Survival. We now live in insular worlds, worlds that requiresreconnection.

a-1567984252 Sep 08, 2019 04:10 PM
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@ Flicka it's easy for you to talk while sitting in a house with electricity on in this heat. Do you have A/C on too while eating frozen ice cream? Our fans can't work without power and our ice cream has melted! Speaking of the Thomas fire, why aren't there any planned outages in Montecito or Carpinteria? Then you would you be complaining too. 3-5 days no power is way too long for anybody to endure in this heat!

a-1567994900 Sep 08, 2019 07:08 PM
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A-1567994590 2 4 SEP 08, 2019 04:10 PM-----Agreed. 3-5 days is a punishment. Our refrigerator has been acting up for a while and just trying to keep food from spoiling is in itself extremely stressful, nevermind attempting to stay cool ourselves. 3-5 days is too long. We should be thankful cooler days are coming.

Potif Sep 10, 2019 02:10 AM
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Our ancestors didn’t live in homes packed together, or apartment houses. They didn’t have medical items, air conditioners, fans, freezers, or refrigerators that were dependent on electricity. They had a totally different life style, based on their surroundings, and what was available at the time. As a society in today’s age, (which is what we’re dealing with) we are now pretty much dependent on these items now. Makes it a lot harder to do without electricity for long periods. And, stores and restaurants are also affected... imagine their freezers, and refrigerators shutting down for extended periods. And, trying to get prescriptions from a store without power. There are multiple problems that are created by a lack of power, and no simple fix for many of them. Generators can be dangerous... especially if not properly used, and also add to pollution. And, how would one set that up in an apartment complex?

Shasta Guy Sep 08, 2019 09:11 PM
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LOCALMATT: you said it perfectly, self reliance is the key. In the end, your degree of self reliance and preparation is the only way to offset discomforts associated with one of these extended power outages. SCE’s communication was terrible and inconsistent. I’ve started freezing my blocks of ice in my garage freezer. I definitely need more battery powered LED lights, and I figure I’ll charge our phones in our cars. My neighbors are elderly. From MT’s posts I am seriously considering a small generator now. Rant and complain if you want, but you better think about what you’ll do when we get a PSPS outage that lasts >24 hrs, possibly shuts down grocery stores, and perhaps shuts down credit card transactions. This was the baby outage with less than 1000 affected for only 24hrs.

a-1568051066 Sep 09, 2019 10:44 AM
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Costco has on sale battery magnetic hanging LED lights: they are well worth $20. Rooms, closets are brighter than my normal lighting.

winter Sep 08, 2019 09:13 PM
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I guess a lot of you think we are living in the "wild west ", happy to live like the ancestors.
Well, I am not....survived losing my house in an earthquake...been through tornadoes, hurricanes, and blizzards..
Just never thought I would have to worry about my family, pets, the elderly, I take care
of...because of a power shut off...
Not everyone is good health...can camp in the
house...not everyone can afford a hotel.

Shasta Guy Sep 08, 2019 09:48 PM
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Voice your concerns to the Public Utilities Comission, the Governor, our representatives in Sacramento and Washington. Anything less than that is next to useless. I believe that some elderly and health compromised people will not survive an extended power outage as happened in France a few years ago during and extended heatwave. It’s not just about having a stiff upper lip facing discomfort, but for some it will be a life or death situation for the sole reason of pleasing insurance companies and shareholders.

Z Sep 09, 2019 08:54 AM
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Gaviota coast power came back on about 2:30 PM Sunday. Big winds didn't start a conflagration; SCE won. ,Little Honda generators were big winners too. A nice feature camping out at home is that you have all your stuff close at hand and you don't have to shuttle back and forth to feed the critters.

winter Sep 09, 2019 11:29 AM
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I am fully prepared...because of the Northridge quake...in 1994.

Have full supplies from Harbor Freight, Ventura , S.O.S, Van Nuys...
I have camped on my lawn for 5 days, even dealt with looters...
Everyone is helpful here but I take care of the elderly...am an advocate..
They arn't going to buy even extra water, much less a generator..
Just punchy...sorry...you all are right, you need to prepare...
I have goggles, tarp, food, buckets, crowbars, helmets, straps for t.v.s,
lanterns...probably over prepped...just saw a lot of medical, emotional disasters with this...for my neighbors, and people I take care of....

Shasta Guy Sep 09, 2019 12:29 PM
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I had friends who lived in Nothridge during that quake, and they said it was the most terrifying thing they ever experienced. That’s why they moved up here when the right job opportunity opened up for them.

a-1568006571 Sep 08, 2019 10:22 PM
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We live near the Mission so the power was on. But friends were driving back on the 101 from Pismo to S B and they said the winds were very very scary. Sounds like the shutdown was the right thing to do.

rustydad Sep 09, 2019 09:42 AM
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Well I guess this is the new reality, Red Flag called and the power goes off until it is lifted. I ordered a generator from Home Depot. But I have to wonder if the danger from the power lines is less or more than the danger from hundreds of us living in the boondocks running gasoline powered generators? I remembered that the 1955 Refugio Fire that burned 85,000 acres was caused by a generator.

jak Sep 09, 2019 10:48 AM
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The danger from the generators is far higher. This isn’t about safety. It’s strictly about liability. If you kill your family with carbon monoxide from your generator or it starts a fire that burns down your neighborhood that’s a tragedy but not the fault of your power supplier.

Z Sep 09, 2019 02:42 PM
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Gaviota fire was started by a poorly-maintained generator installation. If I recall correctly, the makeshift exhaust system ignited an open container of gasoline in the generator shed. Keep your generator outside, away from doors and windows. Maintain a fire watch while using a portable generator; read and follow the instructions.

a-1568062103 Sep 09, 2019 01:48 PM
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The European death toll in 2003 was 70,000 people, mostly seniors without cooling. "In France, 14,802 heat-related deaths (mostly among the elderly) occurred during the heat wave…August, 2003.” Thank you, WINTER, SHASTA GUY, and others who are standing up for seniors. You are what God intended. To the accusers, please change your hearts; it’s not too late, yet.

Shasta Guy Sep 09, 2019 09:18 PM
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1:48 PM, thanks for the date and the stats. I knew this occurred but I couldn’t recall the year but I knew there were lots of deaths of senior citizens.

winter Sep 09, 2019 02:29 PM
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Thanks to Matt, and Shasta guy....
Instead of complaining, maybe I could meet with CERT, fire departments to educate seniors....
Used to run a nonprofit.....

a-1568067559 Sep 09, 2019 03:19 PM
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Ban generators; they start fires. That makes as much sense as pre-emptively turning off power. "Buying individual generators to provide power during a PSPS is not a viable solution. Generators can be expensive and a cost many people cannot afford. They require special wiring that, if not done right, may backfeed power into the grid where it, too, could cause a fire.” https://www.noozhawk.com/article/will_shutting_off_power_to_prevent_wildfires_inflict_more_harm_than_protect

a-1568135054 Sep 10, 2019 10:04 AM
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5,038 reads, 58 comments. Lots of good comments, I've learned so much and thank each of you.

a-1568135522 Sep 10, 2019 10:12 AM
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WINTER, educate the county. Cooling centers needed for seniors. Rides needed to cooling centers. PSAs needed on tv to tell seniors why they need to stay cool. Ask neighbors to give rides to seniors.
Free open doors at movie theaters for seniors ONLY, for safety? Don't ask seniors to go to Red Cross, because Red Cross has to allow street people, and seniors are rightly so afraid.

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