Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

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Protesting the Larry Elder Rally
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By Marian Shapiro

There were 100-200 masked and quiet people on Anapamu St. in front of the County Administrative Building, at Anacapa Street. The Larry Elder Rally taking place in the Sunken Garden probably had  5 to 10 times as many people.

The NO on Recall protesters were local activists, but I suspected many of the Larry Elder Rally attendees came from out of town, especially the activists who were in several big trucks parked along the curbs in front of the Vote No protestors. The Elder demonstrators were very confrontative, yelling at the masked and silent Vote No sign holders.  The Elder activists had bull horns and were screaming that the silent sign holders were communists, that they were against what America stands for, like freedom and children’s health and their children’s right to go to school.

The Elder activists yelled that the Newsom supporters were stupid, believed in a lot of lies, and were thoughtless followers, never checking the truth of what their left-wing leaders told them.  Then two Elder supporting women came right up to the masked Vote No protesters and yelled a lot of accusations, clearly frustrated that their yelling questions got no responses.

They yelled, “Why don’t you respond?  You have no answers!  You are blind, stupid followers who don’t care about your own rights, your freedom, your health.  You are so stupid, you can’t answer. How can you possibly support this Governor?"  The protestors had been advised not to engage in arguments with the other side and to just stand quietly, however it’s extremely difficult not to respond! Occasionally a Newsom supporter would answer the yelled accusation, for example saying, “We’re not Communists!”  

Then a Newsom supporter and leader observed that one of her group was arguing with an aggressive, accusatory Elder supporter.  Michal Lynch decided to interrupt the argument and lead the interaction in a less confronting direction. 

Michal explained,  "I stepped in, and changed the subject, by asking her a question. Then anything she said, I found a way to acknowledge it or stated what part I agreed with, and asked her questions. We had a good time, laughed about how ludicrous all the polarization is, commiserated that both 'sides' are not what we truly want, and compared what we like. It's not hard to find points to agree on, when you’re not yelling.”

Michal was successfully using the skills taught by Dr. Tania Israel in her book, "Beyond your Bubble."

Most people want to tell the other side how wrong they are, but Ms. Lynch showed amazing self control and wisdom in finding things they could agree on. The hostility evaporated and they looked like they were having fun.  But know that for most of us, it’s quite hard to do.

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a-1631324237 Sep 10, 2021 06:37 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Gregorio, you don’t like how the shutdown damaged valuable businesses and their employees, and I understand that. But surely you understand that nobody knew what was the right thing to do at the beginning of the pandemic. People were dying in droves in Italy and New York. Maybe Newsom made a bad call when we look at it in hindsight. But you must realize he had no intention in damaging businesses. And this whole recall is wrong-headed. You could have saved almost $300 million if you had just waited and voted him out next year.

SBSand Sep 10, 2021 05:05 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

It's just a restaurant, not a human life lost to covid. This Elder guy says he would lift covid restrictions and if that happens then chances are you'll lose more than your parent's favorite restaurant. We live in a bubble here because we have such great medical systems and have been super covid cautious. That could change so fast. I'm sad that is a risk that you, and others with your beliefs, are willing to take.

Byzantium Sep 10, 2021 04:44 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

The Larry Elder event was happy and positive. This individual report is purely a side issue and protesters came to be provocative. They got what they were looking for apparently, though few of us even saw or heard them. Due to the looks of their pre-printed signage, yard signs and door drops the No on Recall people seem to have very deep organization and a material stake in this election outcome. Of course, they will try to generate negative publicity, and smear the other side with these few one-off personal encounters. Glad I was at the rally so I could see how the local write-ups treated this overwhelmingly positive event. Yes there were GOP clubs in attendance from around the county - it was a pleasure to have Larry Elder make this last minute stop in our county.

sbmh2015 Sep 10, 2021 11:56 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Maybe in your part of the rally but there was a large contingent of rally attendees screaming, acting very aggressive, etc. to the 'no on recall' folks. They were constantly approaching us and refusing to move. This article is absolutely correct

a-1631337835 Sep 10, 2021 10:23 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

I agree, the Newsome supporters were the ones trying to cause a stir by honking and yelling. Mr Elders crowd and the speaker himself were calm and the crowd was positive. Fun times. Surprised this report even made it to Edhat!!

GeneralTree Sep 10, 2021 04:41 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

It's definitely hard to have a conversation with folks who push Trump's "Big Lie", are against women's rights and don't support racial equality or the LGBTQ community. The Far Right has been pushing conflict into the streets for several years now and trying to make conflict the norm. Very nice write-up. I will look into the book you mentioned Dr. Tania Israel, "Beyond your Bubble."

Basicinfo805 Sep 10, 2021 04:31 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Everyone’s free to protest peacefully whatever they want, but if you go to “protest” a rally don’t be surprised if there’s some trouble.

OGSB Sep 10, 2021 06:31 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

4:33 What exactly? Respect for the law regarding freedom of speech? I do get the "Cons" like he's a convict or conservative, you choose.

a-1631316826 Sep 10, 2021 04:33 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Yes, cons like the Elder supporters tend to be unruly and have little respect for the law when it comes to freedom of speech.

Happy2BeSB Sep 10, 2021 04:24 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Ms. Lynch's actions need to be the norm. People just want to be heard and acknowledged. Asking questions is the first step toward showing you acknowledge them as a fellow human being (and American). It disarms the fight-or-flight response and enables the logic and reason parts of the brain to take over. That's when more common ground can be discovered.

SBSand Sep 10, 2021 05:01 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Her response should be the norm, on all sides. Sadly not the case with the person yelling. What does yelling at people who have different beliefs accomplish for anyone? Makes me sad that was the case but I'm glad that there wasn't any violence!

a-1631315475 Sep 10, 2021 04:11 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

The cons have been pandering to the lowest common denominators in society for decades. This is the result.

a-1631428988 Sep 11, 2021 11:43 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

It is indeed scary that millions of people country wide voted for the orange moron in the last presidential election, and that so many ignorant people exist among us in California that Elder has even a ghost of a chance. But, as with the national election, sanity will prevail.

Byzantium Sep 11, 2021 09:43 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Lompoc GOP group was there. Is that out of town? It is a statewide election so every vote counts regardless of legal residence. But most I saw were local or from surrounding SB county locations. Does it unerve you there are in fact so many local conservatives? Elder had an earlier fundraiser at a local ranch just a few weeks ago, and there were hundreds who showed up for that at $250 head. So Elder is locally popular and well-supported. And people were willing to travel from north county to see him, as they do vote more conservatively than in the south county.

doulie Sep 10, 2021 10:42 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

5373 @ 04:09 - What evidence do you have to confirm the "lackeys were from out of town?" I'll believe you if you provide evidence. I'm guessing you made an idle statement as you don't support Elder, right?

sbmh2015 Sep 10, 2021 04:04 PM
Protesting the Larry Elder Rally

Thank you for this. I was also a 'No on recall' supporter. Being yelled at for over an hour was such fun (not). The people in the trucks and with the large yellow flags were so aggressive. They simply wanted us to respond and start trouble.

I'd like to have a meetup next Wednesday with them and see what they have to say when recall fails !


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