Out of Control Parties on Foothill

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The Sheriff's department responded two times last night and the 6th or 7th time over the last few months to a home in the 3700 block of Foothill Road for large parties with supposed underage drinking. There have been reports of trespassing to neighboring properties and late-night disturbances by numerous people who appear to be intoxicated.

There have been several 911 calls to the sheriff's department regarding the same issue with no lasting resolve. Is there anything that can be done?

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yacht rocked Aug 08, 2021 05:01 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

IANAL, but see: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/small-claims-book/chapter2-9.html

SBSand Aug 08, 2021 06:05 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

That's so crazy! You would think that law enforcement would site the parents and they would do something about it.

a-1628472411 Aug 08, 2021 06:26 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

There is provision in California to file private nuisance lawsuits. These can be filed in Small Claims Court. The owners of this property are responsible for the conduct of the tenants assuming you have complained. In any event, responding to a lawsuit will certainly get the attention of the property owner.

Byzantium Aug 08, 2021 08:43 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Small claims against the property owner does work. Each person can file up to $10,000 each - husband, wife, a few neighbors and you are quickly up to $60,000 plus in damages claimed.

ParvoPup Aug 08, 2021 08:16 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Easy. Go over to their electrical panel, lift the lid and throw the main breakers. No power. No party. And believe me, it takes hours for drunks to figure out what happened.

surfbum Aug 09, 2021 08:53 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Excellent! However, you get unexpected consequences. We shut off the main to control a party on Del Playa in IV. They lit candles and continued drinking. The turned a roll of toilet paper on its end as a candle holder in the bathroom and it subsequently ignited the resin countertop.

pstarSR Aug 09, 2021 02:33 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

surfbum , play stupid games, win stupid prizes. hope no one was hurt. you would think college students would be smarter fire wise.

surfbum Aug 10, 2021 09:03 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Yes, it takes a certain kind of smart to get into the University, I worked at UCSB Fire and it was typical to respond to fire alarms being set off at dorms and off-campus housing at 2 AM.

Randy Parks Aug 08, 2021 08:56 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

The problem with Small Claims is that them being sued know who you are, with that the potential of retaliation. In any event, you need to go after the owner of the property, not the renters. If you go to small claims and after judgement, it continues, consider hiring a private attorney, have them make it clear that you will be seeking attorney fees, plus mental anguish, and other health issues...

Minibeast Aug 08, 2021 09:24 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

First step would be to document any and all of this nuisance activity-----whatever you can get on tape/in photos, etc. Maybe even written testimonials from other neighbors? Second step is to find out who owns the property. Highly likely the homeowner has no clue about these goings-on. ---------- We had a similar problem on our lovely, always quiet at night street. A few of these late night sessions and that was enough of that. ------------I went down to County Clerk's office and found the phone # of the out-of-town homeowner. She returned my call and told me another neighbor had "complained" to her already, but that she thought he was one of those perennial fusspots and blah blah blah. I replied, "Whatever John told you, he certainly didn't exaggerate." Then I informed her that I had photos of some of her tenants walking around atop the flimsy corrugated plastic "roof" of her carport. "It would be a real tragedy if one of those kids fell down off that carport," I told her. (Liability, anyone?) That got the job done. The owner wasn't happy, but adíos and farewell to those noisy, partying till 3:00 a.m. pee-pee boys and their foul-mouthed screeching skeezy gal pals. Sometimes you just have to take back the quiet nights.----------IF it turns out the homeowner lives at that address, then I would take this issue up with County Sheriff-Coroner Bill Brown. Tell him you want this nuisance ended and NOW. If he gives you any grief, call County Supervisor Gregg Hart (you're in 2nd District, right?) and tell him what's been going on with lack of enforcement.

Alexblue Aug 10, 2021 10:06 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

PSTARSR, yeah but it wasn’t an AirBnB.

I’ve had a legal AirBnB in a residential area for years, hundreds of stays and not a single complaint or any type of issue. My AirBnB pays taxes to
the County which benefits you.

edney Aug 09, 2021 08:30 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

At least there wasn't an encampment fire.

Lets see.
Drug and alcohol use
Noise until very late at night
Fights
Urination and defecation
Trash everywhere
Property stolen from neighbors
Fire hazard

Lets be consistent and send a social worker to contact the people at the party house, lets not tow their vehicles or touch them or their stuff.

edney Aug 09, 2021 08:36 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Think of the encampment off away from the rest that doesn't have the drunks, the addicts.
They have a rager next door all day, everyday.
Can they be NIMBY's?
No. Because people who live in actual houses and apartments with running water, electricity etc have decided that it is compassionate to let their mentally ill, drunk, addicted neighbors run wild.

Welcome to the Jungle. Don't like it when its at your house? Call a social worker

buckwheat Aug 09, 2021 08:48 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

If you're intending to sue due to public nuisance it will help if you have support from several neighbors.

Roger Aug 09, 2021 10:26 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

If and when my Neighbors parties get to the point where they are bothering me I tend on placing my speakers out the windows and cranking some good wholesome Black Sabbath up their Wa Zoos!

ZeroHawk Aug 09, 2021 11:25 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

but Roger, Sabbath rules...if you did that to my party, i'd just kill my music and invite you over to join us. ;)

ZeroHawk Aug 09, 2021 03:40 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

earl warren? i know some amazing bands came through in the late 70s. my coworker saw Zep and the Doors in SB at earl warren

Roger Aug 09, 2021 09:05 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Fort Wayne, Indiana I got booted out of a Petra concert and saw Black Sabbath all in one night. I'm from Indiana got here in 1980..

bicyclist Aug 09, 2021 09:35 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

1974 San Antonio,TX while stationed at Fort Sam Houston (Pharmacy Training) I had the pleasure of going to the June 4th concert: Ten Years After; Robin Trower; & King Crimson
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/1974/municipal-auditorium-san-antonio-tx-3bd884a4.html was life changing? Best part was that my two Army buds went also, one drove his car & they were up front, I got the back seat to myself... Pretty messed up passing the "Doobe's" back & forth @ 1 point being pretty baked I tossed it out the window (thinking the had given me a cigarette!), they cut me off right then no more passing to the backseat...
But Fantastic concert!

Roger Aug 10, 2021 08:51 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Edgar Winter, Rick Derringer, and the James Gang...That was a great concert minus getting drop kicked in the chest off the stage for stealing Edgar Winters beer...

sfgac055 Aug 09, 2021 11:13 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

OP: Have you posted this on Next Door? You may get support from other neighbors nearby also being affected. I guess that isn't the place if you prefer to remain anonymous in the matter, but if that's not a concern I'd definitely try there.

edney Aug 09, 2021 11:29 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

I have always started work at 7AM. Some new neighbors moved in and on Sunday they were drinking all day and playing Banda music which I find to be an acquired taste even though I've worked with Mexican people since I was 15. Around 11, music goes off and I drift off to sleep and then they start tuning up the electric guitar and start playing, singing their own songs, drunk as all hell.
Worked out though. Talked to them and it never happened again. Lucky

ZeroHawk Aug 09, 2021 11:30 AM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

so young people are having parties? good lord what shall we do? we are doomed.
joking aside, this happens. Were you not young and carefree at one point in your lives? You never went to parties or held your own 'ragers'? We did, and did so often in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00's. Yeah it can be a pain in the rear when you're in your 50s and living next door and are tired from being woken up at 3am to a fight or a car peeling out or music, but really, this is what kids, teens, 20somethings do and i'm very sure you all did too at one time. I feel for you, but it is what it is. Have you tried to talk to the home owners? Or have you merely popped online to complain to the Edhat whiners for support? Go talk to the parents, or the owner of the property. You'll find that simple, basic human interaction and communication can resolve most things from the beginning before negative feelings begin to fester. I remember a party we had at my dads house off of Fairview in Goleta back in 87. The next door neighbors on either side of us come over and complained. They never left. We invited them in, gave them a beer cup and some pizza, they hung out for 2 hours and left happy. That wasn't the case all fo the time, but just talking to people can make an impact.

LooseCannon Aug 09, 2021 03:49 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Totally agree SHMONK.

Some people forget they were young once. Others, I suppose, were just losers then, and losers now.

Stray Aug 09, 2021 03:25 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

If loud and unreasonable noise persists between the hours of 10:00 PM and 7:00 AM Sunday through Thursday and between 12:00 midnight and 7:00 AM Friday and Saturday, call 911 and report it. In our case, it was 1:00 am at the house near us. I gave the address to the SBSO Dispatch. They asked if I would sign a complaint. I responded affirmatively and I gave my name. A short time later I saw two units drive up to the house. The noise was so loud the partiers didn't respond to the knock by the deputies on their front door. The deputies walked to the back yard. They observed the 415 PC, disturbing the peace misdemeanor themselves. and ordered the hosts/guests to shut it down or be cited. A profane response from the hosts, but then immediate quiet. We never had another problem with that house again.

ZeroHawk Aug 09, 2021 03:42 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

actually no, do NOT call 911 about a noise complaint. 911 is for actual emergencies where people are in danger. a fun yet loud party isn't for 911. just call the SBPD main line and ask for dispatch

ZeroHawk Aug 09, 2021 03:46 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

So i have read, re-read and even posted a somewhat constructive and somewhat polite piece on this. Now I just saw a post that really made me think. He's right. Let the kids party ya old timer. I mean really, look at all of these wanna be cops, standing around taking notes, logging down times and blah blah blah. Either go talk to the home owner, or get over it. I had a few huge parties at my place downtown, our band played too. Until 2am. I notified all neighbors a week prior, inviting them, i even gave them ear plugs if they chose not to. the cops came, sure, they were cool. in fact, i happened to know both of them. we stopped to talk to them of course, but we started right back up. I also told the cops we would be doing so because the party was ending after one more tune. Guess what!!! EVERYONE LIVED. EVERYONE KEPT THEIR JOBS, EVERYONE WAS OK. So you too will be ok. Again, it's kids partying, just like you did when you were young.

edney Aug 09, 2021 03:48 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Things not to do.

A friend was at a large loud party in La Conchita. He'd fallen a few days before and broken a leg and an arm..
He was sitting on a masonry wall in the back corner of the property and his friends were bringing him beers.
The neighbor had enough and got out his garden hose and started spraying over the water over the fence at the backyard party, which was dumb because he just got a bombardment of bottles and cans for his efforts.
Neighbor goes inside gets his .22 rifle and tries to shoot it in the air while under bombardment, slips and shoots my friend with the two casts through the cheek (his mouth was open and it went right through in and out through his open mouth.
So he's really lucky say the Ventura Sheriff but not 100% lucky. Broken leg, broken arm, goes to a party and gets shot in the face and lives lucky

Seabird Aug 09, 2021 09:19 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

@Edney, what on earth? That's one of the oddest stories I've ever heard. 1 - sincerely hope that the neighbor was charged for acting like an animal, felonious neglect, attempted murder, whatever. 2- Your friend should stay home for a while. With a broken leg and broken arm, I'm sure he was on pain killers and in no way should have been drinking. There is something deeply wrong with some people.

Andrea Smith Aug 09, 2021 04:14 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Whatever you do don't listen to ZEROHAWK. We have to live together and these people are not good neighbors, community members or decent people who care about others. Take them to court, get them arrested, whatever it takes to stop it. Once in awhile is no biggie but constant, yeah no. People either need to learn to respect other's needs too or learn that they cannot be part of this society.

a-1628551263 Aug 09, 2021 04:21 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Yes. You only have to look around at all the anti-mask idiots to see that we have become a society that only thinks of "me, me, me first".

edney Aug 09, 2021 06:52 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Google Obama 60th Birthday party to learn more about masks.
Then Google Rashida Tlaib to learn more of the same.

You do know our leaders don't wear masks when they think no one is looking right?

a-1628560796 Aug 09, 2021 06:59 PM
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6:52 - I gather you didn't have room to list all the Republicon Senators and Representatives, governors, etc.

Sail380 Aug 09, 2021 08:11 PM
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Aug 09, 2021 06:59 PM
The big differences is Republican leaders do not pretend when the public is watching.

Sail380 Aug 10, 2021 03:09 PM
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Aug 09, 2021 08:33 PM
Again. The big differences is Republican leaders do not pretend when the public is watching.
Easy to find pictures of Liberals only putting on masks when there might be photos taken. How's Nancy's hair looking these days? Last week AOC puts on a mask for a photo after mingling mask less moments before.

edney Aug 10, 2021 06:20 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

1. Those two hypocritical events were within the last week.
2. Obama is probably still the most prominent member of the "mask up" party
3. Tlaib is very vocal mask up. A do as I say, not as I do person

As someone pointed out, on this issue, Republicans are pretty consistent, and unless I'm put off by all your numerals, you have written posts excoriating DeSantis for not masking and for being too "open society".
Google hypocrites and apply it to virulent maskers. Republicans are equally hypocritical as a whole, but not on masks.

a-1628646057 Aug 10, 2021 06:40 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

Yeah, the cons have been consistent in pandering to the least common denominator for decades.

buckwheat Aug 09, 2021 04:25 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

I get a kick out of commenters who say "talk to the home owners". It reminds me of a time when the neighbor of one of my dad's rentals called him in the middle of the night to complain about the tenants dog barking. My mom and dad were awake because they were just leaving home to go to the airport for a vacation with friends to Hawaii. My mom thought it was one of their friends and said " aloha!",
cheerfully. I'm sure the caller didn't expect that. My dad got on the phone and told the caller to call the police!

edney Aug 09, 2021 07:00 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

The owner needs the paper trail to do anything.
Its not enough to say all the neighbors complain... they all need to complain, on the record.

If the tenants take it to court and you show up with a bunch of police reports from multiple neighbors the eviction is easy compared to "yeah, well I have some texts from neighbors... huh, your honor um how do I prove those are neighbors ? I wrote down their addresses... um so yeah I hear you, anyone can write down a bunch of names and addresses, and I get that is not proof." Yeah, out past the bailiff... OK"

MountainDen Aug 09, 2021 07:17 PM
Out of Control Parties on Foothill

It's actually in "the books" regarding this:
https://library.municode.com/ca/santa_barbara_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=CH40NINORE
Have referenced same myself and SBSD handled it.

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