Ocean Advocates Applaud Biden Administration’s Actions on Ocean Protection

or....stop using oil. it's outdated energy.

Solar, wind and hydro are our future. Burning oil and gas is ruining our planet. Time to change for good. Big oil has been controlling our lives and health for too long already.

VOR try a little common sense for once. First, we are a net exporter. Second, we don't need to pump oil off the coast, there's plenty available under dry land and when you have a pipeline break on dry land it's a LOT easier to contain and clean it up than if you have a spill in the ocean. Seriously, try thinking once in a while

Alex, speaking of common sense, do you know why we are a net exporter? If we stop drilling our own oil, where do you think it will come from?

VOR - no need to stop drilling our own oil, just stop drilling in our oceans where a spill is catastrophic, not just an "inconvenience." We do not need that much oil that we need to jeopardize our oceans. Wind, solar, hydro, oil from land wells, we can do it...

VOR, try and track with the conversation. We don't need to be a net exporter to meet our energy needs, that's just about making money. This discussion is specifically about offshore drilling. Offshore drilling is a small fraction of production and is not needed to retain energy independence, it is simply about making money. Why are you so desperate to continue offshore drilling when there is plenty of oil under dry land? What's the deal, a dolphin bite you on the ass when you were little?

I can see your point, offshore is more risky than on shore. But at the same time, we're banning drilling on shore as well.

no he's not LOL. that's just politcal rhetoric. Can you provide factual data to support that statement?

seriously Zero? You don't think canceling the Keystone pipeline cost people their jobs?

BDM facts don't matter to several here but thank you for sharing. (i.e. "seditious traitor")

Actually, it was the trumper's non-response to the pandemic that furthered his demolition of the economic powerhouse that President Obama bequeathed him. Historically, if you follow the data, the economy does better under Democratic administrations, and stagnates under the Republicons.

By what contorted definition is trump not a seditious traitor?

Unlike the contortions used to define a bunch of hooligans' lead by a guy in furs and a Viking helmet as an "insurrection"?

VOICE OF TREASON - why the hell do people keep saying he was wearing a viking helmet??? It was in no way shape or form a viking helmet.

Now, aside from that.... why do you think the attempted overthrow of our democracy was just the antics of "hooligans?" You truly are remarkably on the wrong side of decency.

Cries of “Hang Mike Pence” don’t disturb you? Tell me, how do YOU define an insurrection?

Among the myths he firmly believes is the one about Viking helmets having horns.

During trump's time in office, the US lost 3.9 million jobs.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trumps-numbers-preelection-update/

Trumpists need to check their facts before continue the same misinformation. We're just tired of hearing it. Check the internet, it is easy, according to Forbes magazine, "Obama’s Last Three Years Of Job Growth All Beat Trump’s Best Year." And read the article. Trump was the biggest loser.

VOR: Enough misinformation. According to the FBI, these clowns were avid Trump supporters egged on by his big lie that the election was stolen. Hooligans they were, and breaking into the capital and threatening elected officials in order to stop the final election process of Joe Biden is an insurrection.

VOICE OF TREASON - Gaslit? Dude, I was watching it unfold. They went in there violently with the clear intent of stopping the vote and harming lawmakers. Some may have been just being stupid and following the crowd, but most were there to cause harm in their "fight" to "save their country" from a "fraudulent election." The SOLE reason they were there was to disrupt the process, our DEMOCRACY. They went to rob us of our choice. Explain the para military guys and gals with zip ties and bulletproof vests? Just "hooligans" to mess around and take silly photos in the Capitol? Dude, stop defending and excusing traitors!

VOICE OF TREASON - oops, missed something. At no point did any BLM mob scream in unison, WHILE attacking the Capitol of the United States, "Hang Mike Pence" after having erected a gallows outside, while also searching for Nancy Pelosi, all fueled by a violent and treasonous conspiracy theory for which many have professed they would die for. No, NOT the same as people rioting out of anger and frustration that people are still treated disparately based solely on the color of their skin.

To compare the fight for racial equality with a mass temper tantrum based on verifiable lies from a sitting president is wrong and you KNOW it.

A mob of neo-nazis, white supremacists, and Q-tards defiled our Democracy. VOR, you're trying to explain away and justify a violent cult.

Of course they believed it, Q-tard. Trust this--the next year or two will bring unprecedented domestic terrorism from the radical right wing of white supremacists, neo-nazis, and cultists. There will be more blood In the streets and apologists like you are enabling these lunatics

Whatever kind of hat/helmet he was wearing (pretty sure it had horns), you are all gaslit big time if you think if you think the people who went into capital were going to overthrow anything. You know the capital building isn't a game of king of the hill, whoever is standing behind the podium (or takes the podium) doesn't get to rule the USA? Sac, clearly most were just being stupid and following the crowd (they were let in by the police), it was a small fraction who came with intent for violence. You may excuse violence, riots, looting, destruction if you approve the cause, I think there is no excuse for it no matter your affiliations. There is always a better way.

Alex, fringe groups from the far corners of our society, from the extremes of the entire political spectrum, do not define the other 99.999% of us.

VOICE OF TREASON - yes, it had horns, but it was not a viking helmet. It was modeled after Native American headdresses with bison skins. Vikings didn't wear bison skins. Come on, get it straight!

Okay, I apologize for calling it a Viking helmet.

VOR - thank you. I feel way better now about everything lol :)

What a dummy. It's not about what WE think they were able to do or were planning on doing, it's about what THEY think. Yes, a bunch of these psychos think that they are going to murder a bunch of politicians in the streets, along with all the people they consider troublesome or inferior, i.e., non-whites, Jews, LGBTQ people, etc.. You've never heard of "The Day of the Rope", I guess. Google it.

VOR, if you vote for them, if you give money to them, if you try and justify their violence...then it absolutely defines you.

Accept responsibility for your actions. What is the deal with so many right wing professional victims these days? Everything is someone else's fault. You want to egg on the psychos by joining in to their fantasies and conspiracy theories but when the lunatics start killing people, oh, it's nothing to do with you. Right.

VOICE OF TREASON - you absolutely ARE defined by those you defend and support. Although you yourself weren't there trying to kill government officials and beating police officers because you were mad about losing an election, you still defend them and make excuses trying to downplay what we all know they were doing.

Excuse me! I specifically said there was no excuse for violence, anytime, and absolutely no where did I ever defend the people that ransacked the capital building. But by all means, ignore all the other violence that occurred the past year and the inciteful rhetoric that came from your preferred political party.

Happy to be on the side of reality. To curry more favor with the EdHat nanny currently experiencing pangs of unevenhandedness and faktriolic outrage, I will wish you a good day and hope we never have the misfortune of meeting.

Fact check: True.

You do realize that tariffs are paid by the American consumer, don't you? And trump was a swampier creature than the late, great Mary Lou. Your other talking points are equally steeped in alt-reality propaganda - true doublespeak.

Nothing you said Coastwatch was steeped in alt-reality propaganda - true doublespeak. I’m not ever really sure what that means.

coast. nice info copied from some right wing media outlet, based on nothing more than words from a failed president. the terminology and ideology that you are regurgitating on this thread, is just that...political hyperbole and rhetoric.

Many of us pay a lot less to fuel our cars, either we have hybrid or electric vehicles. Many more of us will in the future. My hybrid gets close to 50 miles a gallon and my next car will be electric.

To sum up your philosophy--changing things is hard. So why bother, let' just wait until there's not enough oil left to fuel our current manufacturing and energy models and then, uhhhhhh, we can, uhhhhhhh, I dunno--oh, wait, I do know! We get to go to war for the last drops!

COASTWATCH - change is hard, I know, but we can't continue consuming and polluting the way we do now. It's not sustainable. Renewable energy IS sustainable. That means, it will never run out. Coal will, as well as continue to pollute our air and water. It's very simple. We have to change, might as well get used to and quit kicking and screaming.