No More Choices Cartoon

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dukemunson May 07, 2022 09:16 PM
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Thomas john - what are you hoping for, or asking for or going for with that comment ?

dukemunson May 07, 2022 09:28 PM
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TJ - why are you trying to dictate what an artist draws? Seriously… it’s rather odd…

edney May 06, 2022 04:09 PM
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How many states would have a total ban on abortions?
Even CA bans abortions beyond viability and there are only three states that allow abortion for any reason at any time in the pregnancy.
A clear majority of Americans oppose most abortions that occur after 16 weeks and that number climbs rapidly from there.
Texas has one of the most restrictive laws to take effect, but even there they allow abortion in the first 6 weeks.
Personally, I do not think 6 weeks is enough time to find out about pregnancy and get an abortion and if it goes to a popular vote within texas would probably get extended to 12-16 weeks.

Lawyers, lobbyists of all stripes are going to make a lot of $$$

Snoodely May 06, 2022 12:21 PM
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Keep it up, C.B. — Your work is appreciated and valued!

Luvaduck May 06, 2022 11:31 AM
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Link it to the right to get Viagra and watch no-abortion laws go away in a heartbeat. The loudest harrassers of the unintentionally pregnant are past-peak-reproductive time women and can't-get-pregnant ever, men!

Gimli May 06, 2022 10:58 AM
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The U.S. will soon become just like in The Handmaid's Tale. "Have a blessed day."

jak May 09, 2022 05:49 PM
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Nope, the USA will become like Europe, though a few states will likely end up up with significantly less restriction than even the most liberal European countries. On one hand you have a handful of countries that pretty much ban all abortion (though even these have limited health exceptions) and on the other you have Britain and Sweden that allow all abortions through most of a pregnancy - the Brit’s even do most of them on the taxpayer’s nickel.

fitz May 06, 2022 06:57 AM
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Please forward this to 4th District Supervisor Bob Nelson, the only one on the BOS to vote against this year's resolution in favor of women's reproductive rights.

a-1651822543 May 06, 2022 12:35 AM
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These scenarios are all possibilities.

"Texas Governor Ready to Challenge Schooling of Migrant Children
Gov. Greg Abbott may target a 1982 Supreme Court ruling that requires schools to educate undocumented children. Some conservatives see an opening for a fresh look at old precedents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/texas-schools-undocumented-immigrants-supreme-court.html
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As an appeals court judge, Samuel A. Alito Jr. repeatedly drew criticism from his colleagues for disrespecting precedents and established understandings of the law. Fellow judges said, for example, that one of his dissents ignored “our precedent” and another deviated from the axiom that laws must be interpreted “by well-recognized rules.”

Two decades later, a leaked draft opinion shows that the Supreme Court may soon overturn precedents like Roe v. Wade and eliminate women’s constitutional right to have an abortion. Justice Alito wrote the draft, devoting 30 pages to arguing that it was unnecessary for the court to follow decisions that had affirmed abortion rights for nearly 50 years.

The legal principle of stare decisis — that previous rulings should generally be respected and not lightly overturned — “is not an inexorable command,” Justice Alito wrote, adding: “When one of our constitutional decisions goes astray, the country is usually stuck with the bad decision unless we correct our own mistake.”

The apparently imminent demise of constitutional abortion rights raises the question of how aggressive the Roberts court will become in overturning precedents — and whether similar constitutional rights that protect various types of sexual activity and conjugal relationships may be challenged by cultural and religious conservatives in coming years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/abortion-precedent-alito.html

a-1651822230 May 06, 2022 12:30 AM
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"The measure was approved, 7 to 2, by a committee in the State House of Representatives, energized by a leaked draft of an opinion indicating that a majority of Supreme Court justices would vote in favor of overturning the constitutional right to abortion.

Still, supporters argued that the legislation should not hinge on the Supreme Court’s final decision. Instead, proponents are pushing for what they see as an urgent effort to halt access to abortion in Louisiana. The bill defines personhood as beginning from the moment of fertilization.

“No compromises,” the Rev. Brian Gunter, pastor of First Baptist Church in Livingston and a leading supporter of the bill, told lawmakers before they voted on Wednesday. “No more waiting.”
Louisiana is one of roughly a dozen states with a so-called trigger law, which would quickly make abortion unlawful if the Supreme Court overturns the constitutional right to an abortion. A challenge to a Mississippi abortion law has paved the way for the court to reconsider Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark decision establishing that right.

Still, proponents of the new bill in Louisiana argue that the trigger law is not enough. If passed, the bill would immediately ban abortion in the state, even before the Supreme Court issues its final decision. The bill would also enable the Legislature to ignore court rulings it disagrees with."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/louisiana-abortion-bill-homicide.html

a-1651821786 May 06, 2022 12:23 AM
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Louisiana taking steps to make abortion a homicide.

search "news louisiana abortion homicide"

"The State Legislature in Louisiana advanced a proposal this week that would classify abortion as homicide, going further than anti-abortion measures in other states by making it possible for prosecutors to bring criminal cases against women who end a pregnancy."

I'm old now, but dayum I'm glad I got my tubes tied young.

Chip of SB May 05, 2022 11:47 AM
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I think a lot of people are reading more into this leak than is justified. First, it’s important to note the court explores various options before reaching a final decision. There could well be other draft opinions taking very different positions that have not leaked, and the court has not yet made a final decision on this case. We won’t know what the court’s decision is until it is released next month. Second, this draft decision is not by any stretch a ban on abortion. The draft decision would leave it to states to decide how to handle abortion, as they did prior to roe v wade. In california and many other states, nothing would change.

MarcelK May 09, 2022 07:06 PM
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Again, Hannah Arendt described the banality of evil, which so perfectly fits the folks dismissing these consequences.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/health-risks-overturning-roe-v-wade-abortion-rcna27109

MarcelK May 09, 2022 06:58 PM
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https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/the-onion-parody

"
No it won’t.

It just won’t. None of that will happen.

You’re getting worked up over nothing. Everything is going to be fine. So just relax, okay? You’re really overreacting.

“Overturning Roe won’t mark the end of the right’s culture war; it will spark new and more creative attacks”?

It won’t.

“The groups that have pushed and promoted this movement have made clear that they prefer the pre-Civil Rights era power structure in the U.S.”?

Not really.

“If they’re attacking trans people, they’re doing it to advance their broader goals beyond trans people”?

Sorry, no, I disagree.

Trust me, it’s all going to work out perfect. Nothing bad is going to happen. It’s all under control.

Why do you keep saying these things? I can tell when there’s trouble looming, and I really don’t sense that right now. We’re in control of this situation, and we know what we’re doing. Stop being so pessimistic.

Look, you’ve been proven wrong, so stop talking. You’ve had your say already. Be quiet, okay? Everything’s fine.

You’re wrong.
"
-- Voice

MarcelK May 09, 2022 06:57 PM
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Ah, voice of incessant lying not only read the second half of my link but channeled it.

Voice of Reason May 09, 2022 05:46 PM
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This is totally false. Ectopic pregnancies are fatal for the fetus and a medical emergency for the mother. There is no state that would deny treatment for the mother and it is unrelated to Roe v. Wade.

MarcelK May 09, 2022 05:11 PM
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What we have here is a chip off the old banality of evil. If Roe v. Wade is overturned, women will die almost immediately ... women in red states with ectopic pregnancies, which are invariably fatal with the only treatment being abortion. Not only are there states with no exceptions, they have added explicit clauses to their laws banning abortion to treat ectopic pregnancies. Wealthy women will hop on a plane, but 50% of women seeking abortion services are below the poverty line.

https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/the-onion-parody

a-1651865469 May 06, 2022 12:31 PM
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How so Chillin? Nothing is stopping the states from exploring space on their own and aircraft regulation has been codified on the federal level by acts of congress creating the FAA, NTSB, etc. (i.e. the same thing they could for abortion rights). It appears Chip isn't the one that needs to brush up on our system government. i.e. our three separate branches of government, the judiciary isn't the branch that makes the laws, and how our federal government was originally tasked with a very limited scope, increased via amendments and legislation over the years, with the intent that as much decision making as possible be left to the states.

a-1651821396 May 06, 2022 12:16 AM
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11:47, be realistic.
"There could well be other draft opinions taking very different positions..."
Not a chance.

a-1651821325 May 06, 2022 12:15 AM
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Wasn't slavery a state's rights issue?!
Leaving it to the states is not a solution, as it wasn't to many other major American issues.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one, or get a vasectomy.

ChillinGrillin May 05, 2022 09:27 PM
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Chip: What a dense argument revealing how little you know about our system of government. Under your standard, individual states would be in charge of aircraft regulation and space exploration. I was entertained by the usual "states rights" garbage, now I'm just astonished.

Chip of SB May 05, 2022 03:06 PM
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I think you unintentionally brought up a good point sac. Roe v wade established a “right” that is not described in the constitution. By contrast, the second amendment explicitly describes a right to keep and bear arms and second amendment court cases interpret the meaning, limitations, and historical context of this right. If the second amendment did not exist, then it would be up to the states to decide how they wish to regulate abortion. Similarly, if the constitution specified a right to abortion, which it does not, then the Supreme Court could interpret the meaning, limitations, and historical context of that right. The Supreme Court is not allowed to create rights that are not described in the constitution. With that in mind, the way to implement “roe v wade” would be to go through the process of amending the constitution.

GeneralTree May 05, 2022 03:05 PM
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The Politico report said the justices voting to support Justice Alito’s opinion were Clarence Thomas, Neil M. Gorsuch, Brett M. Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. The news organization said Justices Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan were working on dissents. It was not clear how Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. planned to vote. So we pretty much know the court's decision. And all the trigger laws in the deep red states just waiting to go when Roe turns - which will allow private citizens to sue someone getting an abortion, in some states will make it illegal to even talk or plan for an abortion - it will force female minors to carry unwanted pregnancies (even in cases of rape and incest in some) to full term, anyone driving a woman to get an abortion could be in trouble - some of the trigger laws require waiting even until it is unsafe for the mother in a medical situation to terminate the pregnancy. I've seen some here argue that "a lot of women are pro life etc" well that doesn't mean one woman should have a say in another woman's life. How anyone could feel this is ok by arguing "states rights" is abysmal.

Voice of Reason May 05, 2022 02:39 PM
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Case precedence doesn't have the protection you think it does: On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court held in a 5–4 decision that the Fourteenth Amendment requires all states to grant same-sex marriages and recognize same-sex marriages granted in other states. The Court OVERULED ITS PRIOR decision in Baker v. Nelson, which the Sixth Circuit had invoked as precedent. The 2nd amendment is also not unlimited - there are numerous restrictions on the right to bear arms that have been upheld by the Supreme Court, many of which come down to....... State laws.

dukemunson May 05, 2022 02:07 PM
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Sac - I'm with you!!!! Assault weapons weren't meant to be protected by the constitution and should be banned!!!

sacjon May 05, 2022 02:03 PM
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CHIP - "The constitution does not address abortion." No, but case law (Roe v Wade) does. That's also how our system of government works. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mention shotguns or automatic rifles, but that doesn't mean they aren't protected by subsequent case precedence. See how that works?

Chip of SB May 05, 2022 01:30 PM
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Chillin, the constitution says anything it does not address is left to the states and the people. This is the concept of federalism that our system of government is based on. The constitution addresses voting rights and segregation, these issues are not left to the states. The constitution does not address abortion.

sacjon May 05, 2022 01:28 PM
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Yes, but the "fact" is, even if not in CA, millions of American women will be denied the right to choose what they do with their body. Just because they're not Californian women it's OK? Do you not care about your fellow Americans? Women who have been raped, being forced to give birth. Women who have conditions that would kill them if forced to carry to term. Pre-teen girls being forced to become mothers. Victims of incest being forced to forced to live out their nightmare even longer, perhaps the rest of their lives. What about those women Chip and VOICE? Leave it to the state...... huh?

ChillinGrillin May 05, 2022 12:49 PM
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The "leaving it to states" conservative excuse is so old and ridiculous it's laughable. What should we do about school segregation? Leave it to the states. Voting rights? Leave it to the states. We've all seen how that ends up.

a-1651779265 May 05, 2022 12:34 PM
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And I think you are taking this too lightly. That overturning Roe is even on the table is alarming, and we should act accordingly, not wait-and-see. The idea that it shouldn't matter "that much" to us in California disgusts me. We are talking thousands of American babies born every year who are unwanted and/or whose parents lack the resources to properly feed, shelter, and educate them. It will not be the middle and upper classes who are affected by this, but the poor lower classes who cannot afford to travel out of state for an abortion. It is tragic. And this does not even begin to go into the related implications of overturning Roe on the basis Alito is arguing.

a-1651765664 May 05, 2022 08:47 AM
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It's also poking fun at the Supreme Court Justices who so often reference and discuss their own faith. We have separation of church and state, religion should have no part in any decision making but with a small evangelical subset of people who the GOP panders to, this is where we are heading.

doulie May 05, 2022 10:03 AM
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General - I understand the reason, I just don't think it's very bright.

GeneralTree May 05, 2022 09:26 AM
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"CB's not very bright. Using a dental chair in this drawing versus a surgical table/stretcher." Actually, he's doing that for a reason but you're not picking up on it.

doulie May 05, 2022 09:04 AM
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CB's not very bright. Using a dental chair in this drawing versus a surgical table/stretcher. IMO not very funny either.

a-1651766268 May 05, 2022 08:57 AM
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I agree with you but that's not what separation of church and state mean.

a-1651765116 May 05, 2022 08:38 AM
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Cartoons are commentaries on our society. This is a scary time and this cartoon is reflecting that and showing the hypocrisy of the Supreme Court with their recent additions.

a-1651764186 May 05, 2022 08:23 AM
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Not funny, though I never know CB's intentions. This is a terrifying time for women and the LGBT community. I am really scared for our future.

Notthatbad May 05, 2022 08:40 AM
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Almost certain CB shares your concern as many of us do. Seems like that’s the point of the cartoon to me.

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