61 New COVID-19 Cases and 2 Deaths

By edhat staff

The Santa Barbara County Public Health Department is reporting 61 new COVID-19 cases over the weekend and 2 additional deaths.

The deaths were in the City of Santa Maria. One individual was between the ages of 30-49 and one individual was between the ages of 50-69. Both had underlying medical conditions and neither was associated with an outbreak at a congregate living facility.

There have now been 122 COVID-19 related deaths within the county. There are 9 hospitalizations with two in the intensive care unit (ICU).

There have now been 9,820 positive cases with 118 cases currently active. 

More details can be found at https://publichealthsbc.org/status-reports/

 

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  1. First it was the Lompoc prison, then Santa Maria, now IV. We need to stop blaming these sub-sets of our population as reasons our lives are still so restricted and schools closed. The blame in our community lies with our city council, school board officials, and county supervisors, who refuse to speak up and contest the blanket approach being applied to all of California. Santa Barbara County is unique and perfectly capable of determining it’s own, safe reopening plan. One that is crafted specifically for Santa Barbara, that takes into account our north and south county areas, the business districts, AG areas, and college towns. But Santa Barbara is devoid of strong local leadership. For the most part, all our current crop can do is shrug their shoulders and say “well Gov. Newsom told us…” or worse, take whatever restrictions he put in place and make it stricter, because “science”. [I’m looking at you school board, opening in Orange when you are allowed to open NOW].

  2. If any those students are around families and the elderly they should be wearing masks (because they work right?) and social distancing from them. I know for a fact those families and elderly aren’t strolling DP on a Saturday night. Covid spreading amongst the young and healthy, who get it and just require rest at home, is a good thing. As an effective vaccine is far from certain, the more young and healthy get it now, the more they’ll serve as rood blocks to future outbreaks. Don’t give me these old people might catch it because they should be isolating themselves right? (unless they choose to accept the risks and live their life) nor any of this reinfection is possible because that is a big IF and very rare; prior scientific evidence shows much greater odds of having some lasting immunity than quickly developing an effective vaccine. What so many are forgetting is living with these governmental restrictions until there is a vaccine is flat our wrong and not a viable option (by all means people can choose on their own to stay isolated until there is vaccine but that should never be a government mandate).

  3. VOICE – again, why is this so difficult for you? Wait, you’ve never been in Isla Vista, have you? See, there’s stores and businesses there too. People work in those stores and have other businesses (hundreds actually) where they may interact with potentially infected students unknowingly. That’s how this works. Again, it’s not only students who live and work there. The students are out partying, catching the virus and spreading it to all those they contact. Are you suggesting ALL those who might interact with people from IV should be on lockdown? Shut down ALL businesses in IV? And no, don’t give me the whole “only old and at risk people should lockdown.” Remember, some of those people have businesses too – should they suffer just so young people can run around mask-less partying and spreading the pandemic?
    EVERYONE should be wearing masks when they can’t distance properly. Putting the onus solely on the elderly and at-risk is shortsighted and irresponsible.

  4. 3% fatality rate on average, higher for people over 60. Quick, list the 3 people out of the 100 you know that you would like to die. And then send them a fat check for their medical care so I don’t have to pay for it.

  5. We don’t know how many people are infected, because of limits on testing, so you can only compute the case fatality ratio at this point. Even asymptomatic people test positive, and become cases used in that computation. Once again, you fail to understand the situation.

  6. No… that’s just simply not true and not what the cdc says (is that you Pitmix going anonymous???). As per the cdc
    “As of September 2020, the United States had similar COVID-19 mortality rates (60.3 per 100,000) as other high mortality countries”
    Again, the scientific consensus is .6%… which is a huge number !!! But it’s not pitmix’s 3% or pitmix’s anonymous accounts 2.6%. USE THE HONEST AND REAL NUMBERS!!! It’s absolutely maddening to talk with the Covid deniers who say it’s the flu… but it’s just as maddening to deal with the crazies on the other side who just use wildly inflated numbers on purpose. COVID IS MUCH WORSE THAN THE FLU!!! The flu has a fatality rate of .1%… but stop with the BS of 3%… that’s just obvious and ridiculous lying.

  7. We know that quite a few people that are infected are never tested.. the asymptotic 95%. As such, to take the total number and divide by deaths is silly. Using that method I can Make all kinds of dumb anecdotal arguments or points because it’s completely ignoring actual factual reality. Numbers matter… not perhaps to Pitmix… but to actual people that like the Edhat but get annoyed with the constant distortion of reality. Covid is real and scary… exaggerations and lies though are contemptible and should be called out

  8. When worn AND used appropriately, it does reduce transmission in a population. What all the studies that support mask use don’t take into account, is that very few adults and nearly all children don’t use masks appropriately. I believe as a result of the mask misuse we’ll see that they end up increasing transmission in a population, specifically to those wearing a mask (you touch something, then your mask, you’ve potentially put the virus on a filter in front of your nose you’ll then be inhaling through for the rest of the day). Thus the CDC cited report showing 70% of the covid patients in the study “always” wore a mask, another 15% “often” wore a mask.

  9. There are currently ZERO Covid patients at Cottage Hospital, nine patients are split between Marian Regional Medical Center and Lompoc Valley Medical Center. This in a county of 440,000 people! What the heck are we doing?!? Why are our schools still closed?!? Why are so many okay with this abdication of personal responsibility?!?

  10. VOICE – although i agree completely about the SB needing to tailor its own plan, the blame for high numbers in IV rests SOLELY on the individuals who are out partying without masks and not social distancing. Regardless of the tiers or anything else, they should know better than to ignore a global pandemic. Their actions not only cause our kids to be stuck at home longer (since the districts are relying on arbitrary color tiers), but in the bigger picture, they are putting the at-risk people in their community in jeopardy. Remember, IV is not 100% partying students. Lots of families and elderly live and work there.

  11. 8:59 – The article you linked to presents a hypothesis. It says that universal face masking MIGHT reduce the severity of disease. It might not. The article concludes by saying “to test our hypothesis…” and describes the additional work that would be required to test their hypothesis that masks reduce the severity of infection. Since this article does nothing more than explore a hypothetical possibility, I don’t think relying on it as a basis for public health policy would be justifiable.

  12. 12:20, if we are going to insist on compulsory mask wearing policies, then we should say these policies are “hypothetical possibility based” and not “science based.” Until the necessary studies are completed to verify a hypothesis, it remains hypothetical. Many scientists hypothesize that mask wearing increases transmission of the virus due to improper mask use. In addition, if a mask absorbs virus particles as intended, exhaling through the mask blows these accumulated particles all over the place, increasing virus transmission. Kind of like running your vacuum cleaner in reverse, what would happen to all that dust caught on the filter? Of course, additional research would be required to confirm this hypothesis.

  13. DM, did you even read the Forbes link? More caveats than a pre-nup, and they are basing most of their conclusions on Indiana data from April . (Note to self, stop interacting with people that post links that don’t support their arguments. ) . I know you love to say IFR but I don’t see how you can put any stock in those numbers as the number of asymptomatic infections are just wild a$$ guesses (WAGs). They sample a few people, and extrapolate out to the entire population. WAG.

  14. Last time I checked in 2020 the flu had killed more people under the age of 18 than Covid. The stats show for the young, the flu is more dangerous. This is the opposite for the elderly as covid is much earlier than the flu. The elderly get both ends of the short stick as the flu is also very dangerous for them.

  15. You were anti CDC on your last post… common Pitmix… at least be consistent in your misinformation… err wait that might defeat some of your purpose..
    Yes your right, every single Covid positive person has been tested and accounted for. That just holds to reason… I mean obviously…

  16. We’re at 9 million confirmed cases and 230k deaths. Everyone knows and agrees that quite a few people that have/had it were never tested. As such, the cdc and all scientific bodies at this point are putting the fatality rate at between .55% and .65%. Obviously this includes all people, so if you are 85 then that 3% number is probably right… an of you are 5 years old it’s more like .00005%. This tracks with all other countries. Again… it’s a crappy sickness that one shouldn’t take lightly… wear a mask!!! But stop using fake numbers to inflate it… that does a disservice to all. We are in a real pandemic… and it’s scary… lying to scare people further is wrong…

  17. Amazing the VOR and DM want to contest the numbers. CDC website says 227000 deaths, 8.85M cases. That’s 2.56%, down from about 2.7% last time I did the calc. This is a pretty simple calc using official numbers. If you don’t want to accept the facts, I guess that is your right. Doesn’t make sense to me, but people have died to protect your right to believe whatever you want.

  18. GO TO The CDC WEBSITE! It says the current estimate fatality rate is .6%!! This is because, unlike Pitmix, it can use logic beyond that of a 6 year old. The CDC, the WHO and all other scientific boards understand that not everyone has been tested. So to take just the number of positives and divide by death, is… well it’s dumb… it doesn’t tell you much. It’s like catching two fishing he ocean and since one is a halibut, saying 1/2 the fish in the ocean are Halibut. This is especially true in America as we completely bungled the Testing. So we know exponentially more people had/have it. I think you realize that too but you are all in on your “twist the numbers” for effect persona that you can’t stop yourself. But it’s dumb and wrong, and it lends all your posts as at best questionable and at worst as intentional misinformation. The sickness is real… wear a mask and let’s hope the next administration can get a handle on testing so we don’t lose .6% of too much more of our population…

  19. Death rates increase when hospitals become overwhelmed as they have to choose who to treat. With a “do nothing” strategy we stand to lose a million people by this time next year. The low information populists pushing phony public health info are criminals and should be treated as such.

  20. DM, I notice you never post a link to your very low numbers. Here is a direct quote from the CDC website “Since the week ending September 26 (MMWR week 39), overall weekly hospitalization rates have increased, driven primarily by an increase in rates among adults aged 50 years and older. Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza, or COVID-19 (PIC) for week 42 was 7.6% and, while declining, remains above the epidemic threshold. Hospitalization rates and PIC mortality for the most recent weeks are anticipated to increase as additional data are reported. http://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html But I bet you don’t believe them either.

  21. Does anyone know if there are stats on the types of underlying health conditions people have/had who have been hospitalized or died with Covid? And what % do/did not underlying health conditions.
    I am assuming there would be similarities with people who get hit hard with the common flu.

  22. Links Links Links for the poet Pitmix:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/09/26/what-is-the-death-rate-for-covid-19-coronavirus-what-this-study-found/#3e3870de5c46
    Via Forbes: The calculated IFR increased with age. It was 0.01 percent for those 12 to 40 years old, 0.12 percent for those 40 to 59 years old, and 1.71 percent for those 60 years and older. Men had a higher IFR than women (0.28 percent versus 0.21 percent).
    https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/estimating-mortality-from-covid-19
    Via the lesser of the two WHO’s (can’t speak or quote Roger Daltrey’s findings at this point) – Serological testing of a representative random sample of the population to detect evidence of exposure to a pathogen is an important method to estimate the true number of infected individuals [7,8,9]. Many such serological surveys are currently being undertaken worldwide [10], and some have thus far suggested substantial under-ascertainment of cases, with estimates of IFR converging at approximately 0.5 – 1%
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/06/donald-trump/donald-trumps-false-claim-covid-19-less-deadly-flu/
    Via the CDC (ok via PolitiFACT…but they are quoting the CDC). the infection death rate for COVID-19 is about 0.7%. That’s in the ballpark of other estimates, and would make the coronavirus more than 10 times more deadly than the flu. U.S. COVID-19 mortality by age
    Estimated infection fatality rates
    Chart
    AgeRate
    0-190.003%
    20-490.02%
    50-690.5%
    70+5.4%

  23. Your not correcting anyone though…you are literally trying to misinform people! The accepted mortality rate is .6%. THAT’S A BIG SCARY/DANGEROUS number!!! But stop exaggerating it! It’s like saying masks are useless…they obviously aren’t useless!!! Stop being the idiot on the other side though that is desperately misleading people the other way. TRUST THE SCIENTISTS ON THIS ONE (and well, all ones going forward)!!!!!!

  24. Good article (if somewhat dated at 3.5 months old). What jumped out to me was the below quote, which is exactly what I’m talking about!
    One of the most useful numbers to determine isn’t the sheer number of cases, but rather the percentage of tests that come back positive, or simply the percent positive.
    According to Johns Hopkins University, positive COVID-19 tests in the United States surged to nearly 22 percent at the end of March when testing wasn’t as widely available and was being reserved for hospitalized patients.
    Those numbers dipped to around 4 percent in June as more people were being tested — such as essential workers with asymptomatic infections — but as of Wednesday had a 7-day average of 8.7 percent.
    Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Maryland, says, for example, if testing in an area shows 10 percent of people have the virus, then the infection is now “out of control.”

  25. And you are right…these are some of the numbers scientists are looking at…your just missing the thought/idea that they are then using those numbers to actually figure things out. In essence…you’ve shown that you can read numbers. You don’t have any idea what to do with those numbers…but you are able to look at numbers and letters and discern the difference, and that’s great…I’m working with my 3 year old on that very concept…it’s not easy!!

  26. Glad you brought up Utah. Their hospitalizations per million are lower than NJ’s currently and they still do not have a statewide mask mandate. A lot of panic porn out there right now regarding Utah’s covid hospitalizations, be careful what you read in the media (disclaimer: the media is not a news organization but a FOR PROFIT enterprise with the #1 goal of making money. Do you think a headline that reads “everting is OK” or “Utah hospitals could start rationing health care” would make them more money via clicks, ads and viewers? )

  27. The “guesses” are all scientific models designed to understand a pandemic…does that not register in any capacity?
    But let’s explore and dive in! We have an interesting and instructive local example: The Lompoc Correctional facility. In it, there were 1026 cases and 3 deaths. This obviously makes sense (well to everyone but you), because you had a controlled environment and everyone was tested. The number of .3% is in line with projections for the demographic.
    I’d be curious to see how would you look at that number? Perhaps convicted felons are immune (like the North Koreans) to Covid-19?
    We are in a pandemic. It’s dangerous and terrible and life altering. It’s 10 times as dangerous as the flu (as per Dr. Fauci). But say that…say the truth…don’t change or exaggerate it…and yeah dont water it down either…just say the truth…it’s a good maxim to live by.

  28. 1:27: What a bizarre attitude. The fact that Utah’s hospitals are being overwhelmed by the pandemic, and they may have to start triage on incoming patients isn’t newsworthy? Just be glad you don’t live in a state that resisted public health advice for so long, and instead in one took steps to keep its citizens safer. Assuming you even live in California, and not Russia.

  29. Good point!!!!
    It’s the CDC’s Infection Fatality Ratio
    So if you are 70+, the CDC believes that if you catch Covid (on average) you have a 5.4% chance of dying from this thing (and on the other end, if you are 0-19 they are predicting you have a .003% chance). The CDC is averaging it out at .5% over all who get infected, which is a tad lower than the WHO (along with a few of the European and Asian models I’ve seen, which mostly say .55 to .65%).

  30. Utah is already implementing the dreaded “death panels” that repubs warned us about in the 90s when they were trying to offer universal healthcare. But this time it is the repubs implementing them, so it is okay, I guess. Don’t tell anyone about your underlying health conditions when you go to the hospital or they might put you on the soylent green list.

  31. 227000 people dead. 8.2M infected (CFR). 2.6% fatality rate. Data from Oct 27, not April like DM’s link. Cannot find any reliable data on DM’s beloved IFR numbers or the death undercount. Probably both factors cancel each other out.

  32. The “dodgy statistic” is literally the statistic all scientists and researchers are operating on/via. When we didn’t test anyone…do you think that the only people that had it died? Honestly it’s probably not your fault… science and logic aren’t really taught or respected these days…

  33. Not really a statistic that anyone in the medical profession relies on, but used very early on in the pandemic to try to get a handle on things. Now that we have more data, other metrics predominate. But you’ll keep repeating it, and attacking anyone who corrects you.

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