Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

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Sheriff is responding to a report of up to 10 subjects involved in a fight at the Earl Warren Showgrounds

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Byzantium Nov 10, 2021 09:09 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

Previously misposted to the wrong thread - duplicate:

EWS is state owned property, teetering on bankruptcy, with a board of directors unconnected to the immediate neighborhood. Only the Calif Highway Patrol has jurisdiction over the property. Quick and dirty rentals with massive sound amplification are revenue raisers for them, knowing they are totally exempt from any local sound ordinances.

EWS is part of the state fairgrounds operation and under the control of our local elected state representatives (Limon/Bennett) who have ignored all noise complaints for years. Noise from these events vibrate windows miles away. First step - no more amplified music. Acoustic sounds only.

Support these public service venues by creating funding endowments with state tax revenue, so they don't have to resort to being bad neighbors just to make ends meet. EWS showgrounds has public value and have served as important evacuation centers nearly annually - most recently for animals during the Alisal Fire. But their grotesquely loud, and now violent concerts must cease.

OGSB Nov 09, 2021 07:01 PM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

Sac< Also, you're a little correct that shows in the 80's used to be a bit more crazy. Definitely some fights in the pit, but I still go and haven't seen one in over 10-15 years. (in the pit)

sacjon Nov 09, 2021 07:08 PM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

OGSB - my point through this whole thing is that ANY situation where you have tons of drunk/high people crammed together in a charged situation (concerts, etc) can result in violence, not just Banda concerts.

JB86 Nov 08, 2021 11:28 PM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

Anyone who listens to the police scanner understands what happens in these venues. Bunch of drunk or high people get close in a charged environment, stuff happens. Some may be Mexican oriented (I saw the Los Dos 20 bus today), but disorder can occur in any genre. Booze, drugs, loud music, it happens.

bosco Nov 08, 2021 11:39 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

I didn't even know that EWS has concerts. It would be interesting to see why EWS vs. the Bowl. Is it cost? Capacity? Or, some other factors at play here? I bring this up because it really seems like another example of the cultural divide in the community. It's really like there are two communities in Santa Barbara you either live in the Hispanic Community or the White Community and rarely do those two worlds cross.

sfgac055 Nov 08, 2021 10:18 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

Early comments on this post are super cringeworthy... But, brawls with 10+ people aren't being reported on at any other concerts/venues locally so to see it being reported twice at EWS in a short period of time is attention grabbing I guess.

a-1636461913 Nov 09, 2021 04:45 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

But Townie, at 10:57 you wrote "Bowl concerts also don't last 6 hours every single Sunday."
Is it every single Sunday?
I heard, from my home, the early Oct. concert mentioned here, mostly the MC. Indeed, it bounced off the foothills. But it ended on time per noise ordinance, which is 10 p.m.

sacjon Nov 08, 2021 04:07 PM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

SFGA - I get it, but my point is, all these people are complaining that something must be done about these violent "Hispanic concerts," but I just don't think it's accurate. Sure, sometimes huge groups of drunk people have some fights among them, but labeling these concerts as problematic seems to just be an extension of the racist thinking around here.

sfgac055 Nov 08, 2021 03:58 PM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

@Sac dude I simply suggested, after having seen a similar report recently on EdHat that it may have gotten others attention for the same reason.
I lived over near Mission/State 10 years ago and could hear the concerts at Earl Warren Showgrounds very clearly from there. Any concert regardless of genre happening at EWS will be loud, the majority of concerts at EWS just so happen to be hip hop and Latin/Hispanic/Mexican music.
By the way, there's another one next weekend :)

sacjon Nov 08, 2021 11:40 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

SBTOWNIE - I suppose when you have a large groups of drunk people anywhere there will be fights. Blaming a certain type of music or the race of the attendees (not at all saying you did though) is just lazy racism and I'm truly surprised at the audience here, given where up and downvotes are being placed.

SBTownie Nov 08, 2021 11:25 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

Of course it doesn't. I was responding to the question you posed below. You said when was the last time this happened, does it happen every time there is a concert here. I was responding it just happened a few weeks ago, and every time I've heard this style of concert in recent memory there was an issue. I looked up the EdHat incident post for the last one and there were numerous violent incidents including a drug overdose. That was when I drove by. There have been some other concerts there (according to the internet) in the interim, and I have not heard any of those where I live, such as this event: https://www.noozhawk.com/article/earl_warren_showgrounds_boasts_bands_bites_beer_garden_and_four_haunted_hou

sacjon Nov 08, 2021 11:05 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

SBTOWNIE - so what if it's happened at some other time? Does that excuse the blatantly racist comments here? If the fights concern people, don't go. If the noise it too loud, complain to the venue and the city. Nothing excuses the lazy racism here though.

SBTownie Nov 08, 2021 10:58 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

I agree the other comments seem racist and bad, but this is happening every time. A couple weeks ago I had enough of trying to figure out where the 6 hour noise fest was coming from every Sunday so I drove around, discovered the EWS concert going on and cop cars were swarming the place. Fights and at least two separate brawls (per EdHat reporting, I think) had broken out.

SBTownie Nov 08, 2021 08:59 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

These concerts are getting out of control. We are over a mile away with the Samarkand hill in the middle and somehow we can still hear these at very loud volume? I don't get how this is legal or safe for anyone to be exposed to that level of noise.

ZeroHawk Nov 09, 2021 09:38 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

SBTownie- Noise ordinance goes into effect at 10pm for concert venues. Do the concerts go past that time? If not, they are not breaking the law.
Aerosmith broke the law when they played at the bowl. I could hear them on the west side. very clearly. Did I complain? Nope.

SBTownie Nov 08, 2021 10:57 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

I didn't sign up to live around the Bowl and Bowl concerts also don't last 6 hours every single Sunday. These concerts start at 2 or 3 and end after 8, sometimes later. I don't think 1/5 the city of Santa Barbara should have to listen to a concert they didn't sign up for for 6 hours one day every week. And yeah, noise at those levels can absolutely be unsafe for concert goers. If it can carry miles, there is either too much amplitude or there is another phenomenon at work which is causing the sound to carrier farther than it should. Do you really think it's normal to hear every word of a song and every note when you live a couple miles away from a concert? Not ok.

ZeroHawk Nov 08, 2021 10:24 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

Legal or safe? Ok grandpa...thats what concerts do, project loud music from a stage through speakers and amplifiers. People pay to go see this. Maybe you should check it out. How do you think the folks around downtown and the bowl feel?

Henry Sarria Nov 08, 2021 04:53 AM
Multiple Subjects Fighting at Earl Warren Showgrounds

It was the Toro Guapo/50 Calibre concert goin' on. I was skating @ Adams School, could hear the bands playin' & they sounded cool.
Thing is, I saw some of the concert goers walking toward the venue as I was leaving Adams, some clearly looked like there was some pre-concert drinkin' goin' on.

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