Masks No Longer Required on MTD Buses, Still Highly Recommended

I obviously obviously and certainly didn’t bite for trump… weird and odd that you assume anyone that criticises Biden is a trump fan. Kind of indicative of partisan madness actually. Trump was a disaster. We all know that… unfortunately we’re all seeing that Biden is sad well…

GT- I didn’t vote for trump… odd that you think I did. Trump was the worst president we’ve had ...

The President you voted for Duke is still claiming he won - and his minions are criminals for attempting a coup. Sounds like you may be supporting a disaster.

Our current and our previous president are disasters… truly and completely.

coastal, what do you want a trophy for someone making a "personal" choice? when the entire anti-mask crowd shouted "personal" choice to the heavens.

@ A-165..... Who cares whether or not you wear a mask at this juncture... Did you want an "AYSO trophy"...? LOL!

Gt - kindergartens were being forced to mask up daily up until 3 weeks ago… so what are you talking about ???

And… no … I’ve never supported a coup. The far left and right have been completely wrong. I support logic and reason…crazy that both the far right and left call that “treason”.

Who is masking kindergarteners?

You support an agenda de-legitimizing an election and supporting coup. That would define traitor.

Questioning why we are masking kindergarteners makes you a “traitor”… wild wild times we live in!!

Politicians with opinions like you
and VOR are traitors to the United States. Not going to pin it on you though personally as you were spoon fed from the far right elite backing Q cabal.

DOJ is going to get it overturned - like I said the ruling judges decision was very weak.

6:33 - So, you're saying 1 million deaths is just no problem at all, so why bother to do anything?

The highest rate of Fentanyl deaths are in red states. The highest rate of comorbidities are in red states. The highest rate of hate crimes are in red states. The highest rate of gun related deaths are in red states. The highest murder rates are in red states. The highest rate of those seeking government assistance are in red states. All verifiable fact.

Also - President 45's hand picked experts said the death toll from Covid would be 240,000. We're now at one million plus. Trump's numbers were wrong weren't they?

VOR - no data or proof. Simply speculation, creating your own statistics and alternate facts - and parroting. The purges from the left will come soon enough my friend. Go spend some time with the family. Have a good night.

General Tree, the CDC's own actions, inconsistencies, manipulation, political interference, and lies, not just government overreach (though there is plenty of that) is what will limit the CDC's abilities if / when we have a serious pandemic in the future. They've blown the trust of many people with how they handled the past two years. That aside, I think when covid first hit in 2020 there was widespread compliance, it was only after we realized (some quicker than others) that this was not the " millions of Californians will die within months" that some of the grossly inaccurate models predicted, which the CDC erroneously relied upon, that many people started pushing back against these rules, mandates and regulations only loosely based on "science", that weren't adequately studied for efficacy after implementation, for a virus that 99.7+% of the people without serious comorbidities would survive.

Coming from the Q stolen election crowd that comment is hilarious.

What’s the liberal argument other than hide your head in the sand and claim everything is fine on the border and inflation is a myth…

That's great - and when the next pandemic comes along - say with something similar to Ebola, the CDC won't be able to do anything about it because of "government overeach." These hand to mouth working class arguments are sadly populist and ignorant. Throwing the baby out with the bath water. But that is the GOP these days.

Omicron 2.0 is ramping up locally. My doctor said they saw 5 cases last week, and there is a case in my kid's class too. And that's only the people getting tested. Not to mention there is a nasty strain of flu making the rounds.

238pm - Exactly...and so you can choose to keep doing it forever! Do what you want...thankfully though we're ending that (so much of the time completely useless) charade for everyone. Do what makes you happy and makes you feel safe...no one is going to stop you from wearing that mask.

Unless, of course, you want to remain healthy in an ongoing pandemic.

BASIC - yup! I still try to wear a mask in certain situations, but man, when I don't.... I get some looks lol!

COAST, are you a veteran sir?

FREEDUMB!!!

Sounds like some of our Supreme Court Justices...

What have Republicans done to stop Fentanyl deaths or curb Covid deaths? The answer starts with a "Z" and ends with an "O"

One million Americans have died from Covid, and that's a low estimate. I understand that you try to place an importance of life based on age. Automobile accidents were not counted as Covid deaths even though the heads on the far right podcasts say otherwise.. I've actually graduated law school, passed the bar, and practiced for 20 years before my next business ventures.

In 2020 - 37,000 aged 18 - 45 (sorry I said 50) died from fentanyl overdoes, another 42,000 in 2021. Throughout that same time only 50,000 aged 18-45 died from covid. The OD's are most likely undercounted as the don't count it as a straight fentanyl death if there were other drugs in the system, unlike the covid deaths which counted even if someone was a killed in car accident and just happened to test positive for covid. Those are facts. You must have skimmed over my other response to your input on the legal opinion for you to focus on the copied and paste portion but I get it, addressing that part doesn't jive with your position.

VOR - I appreciate in a strange way how you believe to be an expert on everything you comment on. It generally makes me smile when I see someone living blissfully unaware such as this.

56k Fentanyl overdoses in 2020. Covid has killed over 1 million in the US alone.

More what-about-ism. Is Fentanyl contagious? Libertarians long argued to legalize ALL drugs. Look how that thought turned out.

VOR - I'm not going to sit here all day and cater to your feelings. You asked for some basic background with what I disagreed with about the ruling - yet you never responded to those points about the substance of the ruling - and rather got upset about cutting and pasting an article. I work very hard, have a Master's degree and an MBA. I now own a very successful business. I own several homes and an apartment buildings in town. Hope you can get there too one day.

"But Covid-19 is the most serious public health crisis since the late 1910s, and arguably the most serious crisis of any kind to face the globe since World War II" - With fentanyl OD's alone killing more people under 50 than Covid-19, this is simply false.

Found the Vox article you copied and pasted from GT (queue Sacjon plagiarism comment). https://www.vox.com/2022/4/19/23031891/supreme-court-trump-mask-mandate-airplane-mizelle-biden Of course I know how you'd respond if I copied and pasted something from the "rights" equivalent. https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

So close GT: . "The elected branches, and not judges, should decide public policy" Yes, the elected branches should decide public policy and not judges NOR...... UNELECTED BUREAUCREATS at the CDC and similar agencies. The satiation reference was an example, and if used the way you phrase it would grant enormous and far reaching powers to the CDC, certainly something our elected officials never intended, for example banning fast food / junk food / sodas and mandating daily exercise (which interestingly enough would save more lives than all their covid mandates combined). Of course, no mention of the most egregious reason it was overturned, violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

Mizelle was only 1 of 10 Trump judges deemed unqualified by the American Bar out of the 320 he successfully installed.

Mizelle’s opinion in Health Freedom Defense Fund v. Biden, the case striking down the masking requirement, is so poorly reasoned that it is difficult not to suspect that it was written in bad faith. Its primary argument is that federal law permits the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to require businesses to clean up contaminants that can spread disease, but that the law does not permit the CDC to actually prevent such contamination from occurring in the first place. But, to arrive at this interpretation of the law, Mizelle takes extreme liberties with statutory text including - Interpretation of Health Freedom completely inaccurate, use of the word sanitation does not mean what the judge thinks it means/ Mizelle also briefly notes that the statute CDC relies upon to require masking has historically been used for more modest regulations, such as “quarantining infected individuals and prohibiting the import or sale of animals known to transmit disease.” But Covid-19 is the most serious public health crisis since the late 1910s, and arguably the most serious crisis of any kind to face the globe since World War II. So it’s unsurprising that the CDC used its authority more aggressively to confront a historical crisis than it did to fight more ordinary diseases. In case there’s any doubt that Mizelle is not operating in good faith, the next segment of her opinion erases any doubt. Mizelle invents a distinction between CDC regulations governing “property” and CDC regulations governing “an individual’s liberty interests” that is directly counter to the statutory text. The elected branches, and not judges, should decide public policy. In addition there are also recent peer reviewed studies that show masking does lessen the possibility of getting COVID and the science is contrary to the judges theory about "absorption" of germs.

Is there a legal aspect she got wrong in her ruling on the CDC/travel mask mandate that you’d care to share? Otherwise, you're just, how do you always put it... 'spewing [left]-wing taking points'. So, 1) does this ruling reflect the proper application of our current laws? and 2) If it doesn't, how so?